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92civicb18b1 · 03-26-2008, 07:01 AM

So lately I've been thinking about turboing my r18.

There are a few things I'd like personal opinions/suggestions on.

From a little research:
Currently a Chinese company made a conventional setup for the r18. It's supposedly making somewhere around 245 whp or so. I didn't read too much about it but I don't think it's available to the public, at least not the US.

AJP is also in production, but I read they completed a kit and after a little testing they ended up having issues, so they're kit is on hold for public sale and they're back in the garage resolving those.

I believe ProCivic is the only company who've completed a kit that is currently for sale to the public. Here's a video with this kit installed, it seems extremely disappointing, it'd only slightly faster then my LX, looks like the stock SI is still quicker.

I personally am not one to buy pre-built kits, now although there's obviously enough room for a conventional setup, I was thinking of doing a remote setup. I think I started a thread about this years ago but with a different motor. Regardless this is now and is what I've been contemplating..

For those who aren't familiar with what I'm talking abut when I say remote setup. The setup consists of the same parts, only difference is the turbo doesn't hang off of the exhaust manifold but is placed much further back, sometimes right before the muffler. Disadvantages may overrule the advantages......but then again, they may not.

Some of my main reasons for doing this way would be:

A) Space
- there is not much space in the engine bay.
B) Less fabrication
-The stock exhaust manifold is irregular, if you watched the video I posted (Kinda interesting, r18a1) or just look in the pictures you can see it's not normal.

I need to do some research on fuel management and what system will work with the DBW , also the intake manifold is plastic on these bad boys, so I also have to figure out how much pressure it can take
.
Let me know what you guys think, opinions ideas. Any suggestions.

I'll add more to this later.

92civicb18b1 · 03-26-2008, 05:28 PM

get_nick · 03-26-2008, 06:15 PM

is a turbo for your car a priority?

92civicb18b1 · 03-26-2008, 07:27 PM

I'd possibly do an SC setup. All motor is out.

92civicb18b1 · 03-26-2008, 09:18 PM

i'd like to hear opinions.......

92civicb18b1 · 03-27-2008, 07:17 AM

92civicb18b1 · 03-27-2008, 03:33 PM

talk to me

Turbo&Auto · 03-27-2008, 03:35 PM

Ive heard a lot of rumors that RMT cars run like total ass in the rain if at all. Maybe turn the inlet up, cut a hole in your trunk floor and mount the air filter in the trunk somewhere. Maybe the spare tire well to be hidden.

BrutalB83 · 03-27-2008, 03:37 PM

I'm digging your ideas man. I've thought about the possibilities of a turbon on that motor myself. One quick thought though...have you considered the warranty? Obviously doing something like this is going to void it, and in the worst case scenario that something goes wrong and your motor ends up blown, you'd be SOL big time...

TurboMirage · 03-27-2008, 04:13 PM

sounds like ass too.

92civicb18b1 · 03-27-2008, 04:59 PM

I'd stop bringing it in for routine maintenance and if something happened, I'd just take the kit off..

Quote:

Ive heard a lot of rumors that RMT cars run like total ass in the rain if at all. Maybe turn the inlet up, cut a hole in your trunk floor and mount the air filter in the trunk somewhere. Maybe the spare tire well to be hidden.

That's not a bad idea, or just a shield.

Turbo&Auto · 03-27-2008, 05:17 PM

Dude I know from turbokits.com had it on his truck with the shield, he said it still sucked. Just something to keep in mind

92civicb18b1 · 03-29-2008, 11:30 AM

back ttt

Calesta · 03-29-2008, 02:47 PM

Based on my research on STS's kits, it seems like you have to size the exhaust portion of the turbo to about 2/3 of what you would normally run on an underhood turbo.

92civicb18b1 · 03-29-2008, 04:09 PM

Hmm, I was thinking of going with a 50/63 t3 but I guess I should probably start with a smaller turbo on this one. Might as well go with s 60/48 and see what kind of numbers I can make. I still have to do some more research and save up a bubch of money vut it'll be worth it.

philyphreak2127 · 03-29-2008, 06:02 PM

Twin turbo!! remote and underhood. that would be sick. The motor is out of the car right now?

92civicb18b1 · 03-29-2008, 06:30 PM

No, motor's still in in it.

I just read over my post and forgot the engine bay pics, so here they are.

92civicb18b1 · 03-29-2008, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philyphreak2127

Twin turbo!! remote and underhood. that would be sick. The motor is out of the car right now?

Oh and TT is out even if it would make good power, the intake manifold is plastic and I don't think it could handle all that positive pressure.

philyphreak2127 · 03-29-2008, 06:42 PM

I guess I misread I thought you said it was out. but yeah twin turbo would probably be ridiculus to tune. I was just kidding though. I haven't seen many people with remote mounted turbos. Do they have bad lag?

92civicb18b1 · 03-29-2008, 07:19 PM

Not sure, I've never driven a car with a remote mounted turbo but it shouldn't be too bad.

hondarin · 03-30-2008, 01:33 AM

what about oil? how does it drain back? or possibly a trunk mounted electric oil pump and water system; that'd be sweet

92civicb18b1 · 03-30-2008, 07:25 AM

That's exactly how oil is routed.

philyphreak2127 · 03-30-2008, 09:50 PM

man that will be a unique setup.

03-26-2008, 07:01 AM	#1
92civicb18b1 The Trisexual Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The asshole of the USA, New Jersey Age: 22 Posts: 8,874 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2007 Civic, 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee Rep Power: 122	Remote mounted turbo for the 8th gen's So lately I've been thinking about turboing my r18. There are a few things I'd like personal opinions/suggestions on. From a little research: Currently a Chinese company made a conventional setup for the r18. It's supposedly making somewhere around 245 whp or so. I didn't read too much about it but I don't think it's available to the public, at least not the US. AJP is also in production, but I read they completed a kit and after a little testing they ended up having issues, so they're kit is on hold for public sale and they're back in the garage resolving those. I believe ProCivic is the only company who've completed a kit that is currently for sale to the public. Here's a video with this kit installed, it seems extremely disappointing, it'd only slightly faster then my LX, looks like the stock SI is still quicker. I personally am not one to buy pre-built kits, now although there's obviously enough room for a conventional setup, I was thinking of doing a remote setup. I think I started a thread about this years ago but with a different motor. Regardless this is now and is what I've been contemplating.. For those who aren't familiar with what I'm talking abut when I say remote setup. The setup consists of the same parts, only difference is the turbo doesn't hang off of the exhaust manifold but is placed much further back, sometimes right before the muffler. Disadvantages may overrule the advantages......but then again, they may not. Some of my main reasons for doing this way would be: A) Space - there is not much space in the engine bay. B) Less fabrication -The stock exhaust manifold is irregular, if you watched the video I posted (Kinda interesting, r18a1) or just look in the pictures you can see it's not normal. I need to do some research on fuel management and what system will work with the DBW , also the intake manifold is plastic on these bad boys, so I also have to figure out how much pressure it can take . Let me know what you guys think, opinions ideas. Any suggestions. I'll add more to this later. __________________ DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH QUESTIONS!!! Current Rides 1992 Chevy S-10 Ext. Cab Previous 1992 Civic DX Hatch = 1994 B18B1 Turbo Rebuilt Garrett .60/.48 T3, log style mani and DIY downpipe, DSM 440's, kteller IC piping, JRC Intercooler, Home Depot style oil lines, HKS BOV, Crome Tuned, 253whp 1994 Civic VX Hatch, 1992 b18a1 swap 1993 Civic CX Hatch, 2000 B18b1

03-26-2008, 05:28 PM	#2
92civicb18b1 The Trisexual Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The asshole of the USA, New Jersey Age: 22 Posts: 8,874 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2007 Civic, 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee Rep Power: 122	ttt __________________ DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH QUESTIONS!!! Current Rides 1992 Chevy S-10 Ext. Cab Previous 1992 Civic DX Hatch = 1994 B18B1 Turbo Rebuilt Garrett .60/.48 T3, log style mani and DIY downpipe, DSM 440's, kteller IC piping, JRC Intercooler, Home Depot style oil lines, HKS BOV, Crome Tuned, 253whp 1994 Civic VX Hatch, 1992 b18a1 swap 1993 Civic CX Hatch, 2000 B18b1

03-26-2008, 06:15 PM	#3
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03-26-2008, 07:27 PM	#4
92civicb18b1 The Trisexual Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The asshole of the USA, New Jersey Age: 22 Posts: 8,874 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2007 Civic, 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee Rep Power: 122	I'd possibly do an SC setup. All motor is out. __________________ DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH QUESTIONS!!! Current Rides 1992 Chevy S-10 Ext. Cab Previous 1992 Civic DX Hatch = 1994 B18B1 Turbo Rebuilt Garrett .60/.48 T3, log style mani and DIY downpipe, DSM 440's, kteller IC piping, JRC Intercooler, Home Depot style oil lines, HKS BOV, Crome Tuned, 253whp 1994 Civic VX Hatch, 1992 b18a1 swap 1993 Civic CX Hatch, 2000 B18b1

03-26-2008, 09:18 PM	#5
92civicb18b1 The Trisexual Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The asshole of the USA, New Jersey Age: 22 Posts: 8,874 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2007 Civic, 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee Rep Power: 122	i'd like to hear opinions....... __________________ DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH QUESTIONS!!! Current Rides 1992 Chevy S-10 Ext. Cab Previous 1992 Civic DX Hatch = 1994 B18B1 Turbo Rebuilt Garrett .60/.48 T3, log style mani and DIY downpipe, DSM 440's, kteller IC piping, JRC Intercooler, Home Depot style oil lines, HKS BOV, Crome Tuned, 253whp 1994 Civic VX Hatch, 1992 b18a1 swap 1993 Civic CX Hatch, 2000 B18b1


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03-27-2008, 07:17 AM	#6
92civicb18b1 The Trisexual Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The asshole of the USA, New Jersey Age: 22 Posts: 8,874 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2007 Civic, 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee Rep Power: 122	ttt __________________ DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH QUESTIONS!!! Current Rides 1992 Chevy S-10 Ext. Cab Previous 1992 Civic DX Hatch = 1994 B18B1 Turbo Rebuilt Garrett .60/.48 T3, log style mani and DIY downpipe, DSM 440's, kteller IC piping, JRC Intercooler, Home Depot style oil lines, HKS BOV, Crome Tuned, 253whp 1994 Civic VX Hatch, 1992 b18a1 swap 1993 Civic CX Hatch, 2000 B18b1

03-27-2008, 03:33 PM	#7
92civicb18b1 The Trisexual Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The asshole of the USA, New Jersey Age: 22 Posts: 8,874 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2007 Civic, 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee Rep Power: 122	talk to me __________________ DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH QUESTIONS!!! Current Rides 1992 Chevy S-10 Ext. Cab Previous 1992 Civic DX Hatch = 1994 B18B1 Turbo Rebuilt Garrett .60/.48 T3, log style mani and DIY downpipe, DSM 440's, kteller IC piping, JRC Intercooler, Home Depot style oil lines, HKS BOV, Crome Tuned, 253whp 1994 Civic VX Hatch, 1992 b18a1 swap 1993 Civic CX Hatch, 2000 B18b1

03-27-2008, 03:35 PM	#8
Turbo&Auto Nick Go FAST!! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: East Burg, PA! Age: 28 Posts: 3,271 iTrader: 3 / 100% Ride: 09 Cobalt SS/TC Rep Power: 87	Ive heard a lot of rumors that RMT cars run like total ass in the rain if at all. Maybe turn the inlet up, cut a hole in your trunk floor and mount the air filter in the trunk somewhere. Maybe the spare tire well to be hidden. __________________ www.BackyardTurbo.com

03-27-2008, 03:37 PM	#9
BrutalB83 Brutal Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Rochester Hills, MI Age: 26 Posts: 7,822 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 97 Integra LS Coupe Rep Power: 191	I'm digging your ideas man. I've thought about the possibilities of a turbon on that motor myself. One quick thought though...have you considered the warranty? Obviously doing something like this is going to void it, and in the worst case scenario that something goes wrong and your motor ends up blown, you'd be SOL big time... __________________ If you find something I say helpful, please send some rep my way! Also, DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums so we can all benefit from the answers. I will NOT respond to tech-related PMs... PSN Network ID: BrutalB83

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Turbo&Auto Nick Go FAST!! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: East Burg, PA! Age: 28 Posts: 3,271 iTrader: 3 / 100% Ride: 09 Cobalt SS/TC Rep Power: 87	Dude I know from turbokits.com had it on his truck with the shield, he said it still sucked. Just something to keep in mind __________________ www.BackyardTurbo.com

03-29-2008, 11:30 AM	#13
92civicb18b1 The Trisexual Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The asshole of the USA, New Jersey Age: 22 Posts: 8,874 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2007 Civic, 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee Rep Power: 122	back ttt __________________ DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH QUESTIONS!!! Current Rides 1992 Chevy S-10 Ext. Cab Previous 1992 Civic DX Hatch = 1994 B18B1 Turbo Rebuilt Garrett .60/.48 T3, log style mani and DIY downpipe, DSM 440's, kteller IC piping, JRC Intercooler, Home Depot style oil lines, HKS BOV, Crome Tuned, 253whp 1994 Civic VX Hatch, 1992 b18a1 swap 1993 Civic CX Hatch, 2000 B18b1

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03-29-2008, 04:09 PM	#15
92civicb18b1 The Trisexual Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The asshole of the USA, New Jersey Age: 22 Posts: 8,874 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2007 Civic, 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee Rep Power: 122	Hmm, I was thinking of going with a 50/63 t3 but I guess I should probably start with a smaller turbo on this one. Might as well go with s 60/48 and see what kind of numbers I can make. I still have to do some more research and save up a bubch of money vut it'll be worth it. __________________ DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH QUESTIONS!!! Current Rides 1992 Chevy S-10 Ext. Cab Previous 1992 Civic DX Hatch = 1994 B18B1 Turbo Rebuilt Garrett .60/.48 T3, log style mani and DIY downpipe, DSM 440's, kteller IC piping, JRC Intercooler, Home Depot style oil lines, HKS BOV, Crome Tuned, 253whp 1994 Civic VX Hatch, 1992 b18a1 swap 1993 Civic CX Hatch, 2000 B18b1

03-30-2008, 09:50 PM	#23
philyphreak2127 The name's Sam Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: morrison, co Age: 20 Posts: 1,510 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 98 civic dx sedan, 80 trans am Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 26	man that will be a unique setup. __________________ Parts for sale: http://hondaswap.com/parts-sale-trad...-parts-115446/ Build Threads: Civic: http://hondaswap.com/civic-del-sol-eg-ek/d16y8-n-build-112401/5.html Trans Am: http://hondaswap.com/other-vehicle-discussions/1980-trans-am-build-thread-oh-yeah-its-official-149941/#post1054318

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philyphreak2127 The name's Sam Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: morrison, co Age: 20 Posts: 1,510 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 98 civic dx sedan, 80 trans am Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 26	Twin turbo!! remote and underhood. that would be sick. The motor is out of the car right now? __________________ Parts for sale: http://hondaswap.com/parts-sale-trad...-parts-115446/ Build Threads: Civic: http://hondaswap.com/civic-del-sol-eg-ek/d16y8-n-build-112401/5.html Trans Am: http://hondaswap.com/other-vehicle-discussions/1980-trans-am-build-thread-oh-yeah-its-official-149941/#post1054318

03-29-2008, 06:30 PM	#17
92civicb18b1 The Trisexual Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The asshole of the USA, New Jersey Age: 22 Posts: 8,874 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2007 Civic, 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee Rep Power: 122	No, motor's still in in it. I just read over my post and forgot the engine bay pics, so here they are. Attached Thumbnails __________________ DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH QUESTIONS!!! Current Rides 1992 Chevy S-10 Ext. Cab Previous 1992 Civic DX Hatch = 1994 B18B1 Turbo Rebuilt Garrett .60/.48 T3, log style mani and DIY downpipe, DSM 440's, kteller IC piping, JRC Intercooler, Home Depot style oil lines, HKS BOV, Crome Tuned, 253whp 1994 Civic VX Hatch, 1992 b18a1 swap 1993 Civic CX Hatch, 2000 B18b1

03-29-2008, 06:42 PM	#19
philyphreak2127 The name's Sam Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: morrison, co Age: 20 Posts: 1,510 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 98 civic dx sedan, 80 trans am Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 26	I guess I misread I thought you said it was out. but yeah twin turbo would probably be ridiculus to tune. I was just kidding though. I haven't seen many people with remote mounted turbos. Do they have bad lag? __________________ Parts for sale: http://hondaswap.com/parts-sale-trad...-parts-115446/ Build Threads: Civic: http://hondaswap.com/civic-del-sol-eg-ek/d16y8-n-build-112401/5.html Trans Am: http://hondaswap.com/other-vehicle-discussions/1980-trans-am-build-thread-oh-yeah-its-official-149941/#post1054318

03-29-2008, 07:19 PM	#20
92civicb18b1 The Trisexual Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The asshole of the USA, New Jersey Age: 22 Posts: 8,874 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2007 Civic, 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee Rep Power: 122	Not sure, I've never driven a car with a remote mounted turbo but it shouldn't be too bad. __________________ DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH QUESTIONS!!! Current Rides 1992 Chevy S-10 Ext. Cab Previous 1992 Civic DX Hatch = 1994 B18B1 Turbo Rebuilt Garrett .60/.48 T3, log style mani and DIY downpipe, DSM 440's, kteller IC piping, JRC Intercooler, Home Depot style oil lines, HKS BOV, Crome Tuned, 253whp 1994 Civic VX Hatch, 1992 b18a1 swap 1993 Civic CX Hatch, 2000 B18b1

03-30-2008, 07:25 AM	#22
92civicb18b1 The Trisexual Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The asshole of the USA, New Jersey Age: 22 Posts: 8,874 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2007 Civic, 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee Rep Power: 122	That's exactly how oil is routed. __________________ DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH QUESTIONS!!! Current Rides 1992 Chevy S-10 Ext. Cab Previous 1992 Civic DX Hatch = 1994 B18B1 Turbo Rebuilt Garrett .60/.48 T3, log style mani and DIY downpipe, DSM 440's, kteller IC piping, JRC Intercooler, Home Depot style oil lines, HKS BOV, Crome Tuned, 253whp 1994 Civic VX Hatch, 1992 b18a1 swap 1993 Civic CX Hatch, 2000 B18b1

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