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civicboy1 · 04-30-2007, 09:53 AM

if the ls vtec is such a badass build then why dont you hear about them more often. i guess i wanna know because i have a 97 teg ls and dont know if i should make it ls vtec or just get a swap

boostin4fun · 04-30-2007, 05:55 PM

They are badass when built correctly. Throwing a vtec head on a stock ls block like you have isnt going to be shit. But if you are willing to buy rods, pistons, and a vtec transmission also you could make it fairly quick.

civicboy1 · 05-01-2007, 11:50 AM

yes i agree and i have been researchin these monsters for quite a while now. another question im in the process of choosing a head and dont kwow if it should be gsr, b16, b20, or an itr head. i want the best compression for the price and i also plan on turboing sooner or later. and i know compression isnt just the head its everything in your engine. i was thinking p73 or itr pistons

civicboy1 · 05-03-2007, 10:52 AM

would anybody have any ideas on how i could get the most hp all motor out of a ls/vtec

jimboburgess · 05-04-2007, 01:57 PM

high compression pistons
sturdy rods
a nice flowing head best would be ITR or CTR, then GSR, then B16
headers and exhaust.
basically you want lots of air to fly in to the engine and then get squished down explode and then get the heck out of there as (quickly) as possible.

spend some money on aftermarket pistons and cams and you'll be ballin'

civicboy1 · 05-05-2007, 01:23 PM

would ctr pistons work with a b16a2 head and crt cams with a new valve job and then maybe ctr cam gears and timing belt n ctr pulley systom and transmission

JDM jake · 05-10-2007, 07:46 PM

Just swap it an go GSR

get_nick · 05-12-2007, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDM jake

Just swap it an go GSR

no, no, no. you will spend at least $2k on a gsr swap. for that amount you could turbo the ls, which is what i suggest.

Quote:

Originally Posted by boostin4fun

They are badass when built correctly. Throwing a vtec head on a stock ls block like you have isnt going to be shit. But if you are willing to buy rods, pistons, and a vtec transmission also you could make it fairly quick.

a vtec head will basically give you a gsr only with a little more power. i don't know what the hell a vtec transmission is though.

if you want to keep it all motor, check this link out. i would really suggest this if you dont' want to go turbo.

Building an LS all-motor monster

boostin4fun · 05-12-2007, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by get_nick

no, no, no. you will spend at least $2k on a gsr swap. for that amount you could turbo the ls, which is what i suggest.

a vtec head will basically give you a gsr only with a little more power. i don't know what the hell a vtec transmission is though.

if you want to keep it all motor, check this link out. i would really suggest this if you dont' want to go turbo.

Building an LS all-motor monster

By vtec transmission I mean one out of a si, gsr, or type R "DUH" A ls transmission has shitty gearing for an all motor setup!

civicboy1 · 05-14-2007, 11:00 AM

that sounds good but i really want vtec. and i only have an ls block but i found a b16 with tranny and all sensors for $500 and everyone has a b16 thats why i wanted a frankenstein just to be original and still get more power

YBLEGAL · 05-20-2007, 08:41 PM

lol you still wont be original...but you'll be in a smaller group.

i know you want vtec, and you want more power. get some toda vtec killers and forever hear it scream lol. no variable lift, but agressive as hell!

get_nick · 05-21-2007, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by civicboy1

that sounds good but i really want vtec. and i only have an ls block but i found a b16 with tranny and all sensors for $500 and everyone has a b16 thats why i wanted a frankenstein just to be original and still get more power

you didn't read that thread did you. those cams make it like it has vtec all the time. and who cares if you have vtec? the money you spend on a vtec head could be invested in building your motor and it will be faster than the ls/vtec.

YBLEGAL · 05-21-2007, 03:59 AM

lol i know that's what i'm sayin. put the vtec killers in the ls motor (granted, i didnt go look if they make them for that head), then he'd have lift higher than vtec anyway, eliminating the need for it's "power". but it would be super agressive at all times. it was kinda more a joke, not daily driver friendly whatsoever, but possible (if they fit)

boostin4fun · 05-21-2007, 07:14 AM

You can improve the ls head with upgrading the valvetrain, but it will never compare to the vtec head when it comes to flow characteristics and potential power gains. If you want to do the ls/vtec get a b16 swap and sell the shortblock. Just keep the head and the transmission.

civicboy1 · 06-02-2007, 03:38 PM

i know wat i want i already have had my block bored, sleeved, tapped for oil, and reassembled for the most part i just want to kno if my set up will work

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would ctr pistons work with a b16a2 head and crt cams with a new valve job and then maybe ctr cam gears and timing belt n ctr pulley systom and transmission
Last edited by civicboy1 : 05-05-2007 at 02:15 PM.

i prolly wont go with the ctr pistons because of compression boost ratios

civicboy1 · 07-25-2007, 10:55 PM

i could still use a lil help if anyone has any input

04-30-2007, 09:53 AM	#1
civicboy1 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 28 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 7	b18 help if the ls vtec is such a badass build then why dont you hear about them more often. i guess i wanna know because i have a 97 teg ls and dont know if i should make it ls vtec or just get a swap

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boostin4fun Boosted ls/vtec ohh yeah! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Omaha Age: 23 Posts: 804 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: EM1 EBP boosted ls/vtec, EM1 EBP Daily Driver Rep Power: 18	They are badass when built correctly. Throwing a vtec head on a stock ls block like you have isnt going to be shit. But if you are willing to buy rods, pistons, and a vtec transmission also you could make it fairly quick. __________________ My build threads: http://hondaswap.com/engine-building...c-build-84953/ http://hondaswap.com/engine-building...inished-92905/ I offer ecu socketing/chipping, tuning, swaps, and builds. PM me for details and pricing.

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civicboy1 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 28 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 7	yes i agree and i have been researchin these monsters for quite a while now. another question im in the process of choosing a head and dont kwow if it should be gsr, b16, b20, or an itr head. i want the best compression for the price and i also plan on turboing sooner or later. and i know compression isnt just the head its everything in your engine. i was thinking p73 or itr pistons Last edited by civicboy1; 05-01-2007 at 11:53 AM.

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05-03-2007, 10:52 AM	#4
civicboy1 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 28 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 7	would anybody have any ideas on how i could get the most hp all motor out of a ls/vtec

05-10-2007, 07:46 PM	#7
JDM jake Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: boston Posts: 6 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 94 civic hatch Rep Power: 0	Just swap it an go GSR

05-14-2007, 11:00 AM	#10
civicboy1 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 28 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 7	that sounds good but i really want vtec. and i only have an ls block but i found a b16 with tranny and all sensors for $500 and everyone has a b16 thats why i wanted a frankenstein just to be original and still get more power

05-20-2007, 08:41 PM	#11
YBLEGAL Regular Member w/ Cheese Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 2,746 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2000 EJ8 w/ SiR-II Rep Power: 72	lol you still wont be original...but you'll be in a smaller group. i know you want vtec, and you want more power. get some toda vtec killers and forever hear it scream lol. no variable lift, but agressive as hell!

05-21-2007, 03:59 AM	#13
YBLEGAL Regular Member w/ Cheese Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 2,746 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2000 EJ8 w/ SiR-II Rep Power: 72	lol i know that's what i'm sayin. put the vtec killers in the ls motor (granted, i didnt go look if they make them for that head), then he'd have lift higher than vtec anyway, eliminating the need for it's "power". but it would be super agressive at all times. it was kinda more a joke, not daily driver friendly whatsoever, but possible (if they fit)

05-21-2007, 07:14 AM	#14
boostin4fun Boosted ls/vtec ohh yeah! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Omaha Age: 23 Posts: 804 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: EM1 EBP boosted ls/vtec, EM1 EBP Daily Driver Rep Power: 18	You can improve the ls head with upgrading the valvetrain, but it will never compare to the vtec head when it comes to flow characteristics and potential power gains. If you want to do the ls/vtec get a b16 swap and sell the shortblock. Just keep the head and the transmission. __________________ My build threads: http://hondaswap.com/engine-building...c-build-84953/ http://hondaswap.com/engine-building...inished-92905/ I offer ecu socketing/chipping, tuning, swaps, and builds. PM me for details and pricing.

06-02-2007, 03:38 PM	#15
civicboy1 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 28 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 7	i know wat i want i already have had my block bored, sleeved, tapped for oil, and reassembled for the most part i just want to kno if my set up will work Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0 would ctr pistons work with a b16a2 head and crt cams with a new valve job and then maybe ctr cam gears and timing belt n ctr pulley systom and transmission Last edited by civicboy1 : 05-05-2007 at 02:15 PM. i prolly wont go with the ctr pistons because of compression boost ratios

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civicboy1 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 28 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 7	i could still use a lil help if anyone has any input

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