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bakerderek0 · 11-18-2009, 01:03 PM

I have a b16a block w/ a b16a2 head. I think my ignition timing is off...but, I don't have a timing belt cover...Are there any other refrence points to hit with my timing light? Has anyone else ran into this or know a way to get around this issue?

I also have some noisy ass LMA's that make it hard to hear what's going on inside my valve train.

When I turn my distributor, all I can hear is a change in rpm...what am I listening for?

Taco15 · 11-18-2009, 01:11 PM

check you points on the cams at tdc. if they are off just take the belt off with the crank at tdc (cylinder1) and move the cam until the arrows both point up. The one will be off by 1/2 to get the belt on but one its on they align themselves

bakerderek0 · 11-18-2009, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco15

check you points on the cams at tdc. if they are off just take the belt off with the crank at tdc (cylinder1) and move the cam until the arrows both point up. The one will be off by 1/2 to get the belt on but one its on they align themselves

Yea, neither cover is on here.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the process you explained would be for cam timing, not ignition timing. correct? Or am I wrong to think cam timing and ignition timing are different?

Taco15 · 11-18-2009, 01:56 PM

you are correct. But if you see the exhaust cam is off than i would assume you ignistion will off too.

your right thoough.

the only thing i can think of is to manually adjust the dizzy until the desired rpms is set (700- 600 ish)

I dont think anything will beat the timing light.

phyregod · 11-18-2009, 03:00 PM

As far as I know you need the cover.. You can get it close by setting the number one piston to tdc, then aligning the marks on the pulleys with the head itself, but you're out of luck For fine tuning without a cover. Hit eBay for a lower cover at the very least..

bakerderek0 · 11-19-2009, 12:02 PM

ahhh.. to ebay it is! I wonder how much of a pain this is gonna be. To the helms!

Taco15 · 11-19-2009, 02:24 PM

you could just take it to a shop to set the timing. Or just go buy one at autozone.

now that i think of it. You can prolly rent one there too. Put some money down, take it outside, set the timing and bring it right back and get your money.

bakerderek0 · 11-19-2009, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco15

you could just take it to a shop to set the timing. Or just go buy one at autozone.

now that i think of it. You can prolly rent one there too. Put some money down, take it outside, set the timing and bring it right back and get your money.

I have the timing light, just no white or red lines to match up the pulley to

phyregod · 11-19-2009, 06:48 PM

Can't time it without a reference mark!

11-18-2009, 01:03 PM	#1
bakerderek0 Up a Creek... Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Flowery Branch, GA Age: 24 Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 94 Hatch B16A2 Rep Power: 3	ignition timing w/ no timing belt cover...? I have a b16a block w/ a b16a2 head. I think my ignition timing is off...but, I don't have a timing belt cover...Are there any other refrence points to hit with my timing light? Has anyone else ran into this or know a way to get around this issue? I also have some noisy ass LMA's that make it hard to hear what's going on inside my valve train. When I turn my distributor, all I can hear is a change in rpm...what am I listening for?

11-18-2009, 01:11 PM	#2
Taco15 I wear stretchy pants Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Tallahassee Fl Age: 26 Posts: 5,457 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: chevy s-10 Rep Power: 288	check you points on the cams at tdc. if they are off just take the belt off with the crank at tdc (cylinder1) and move the cam until the arrows both point up. The one will be off by 1/2 to get the belt on but one its on they align themselves Last edited by Taco15; 11-18-2009 at 01:13 PM.

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11-18-2009, 01:56 PM	#4
Taco15 I wear stretchy pants Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Tallahassee Fl Age: 26 Posts: 5,457 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: chevy s-10 Rep Power: 288	you are correct. But if you see the exhaust cam is off than i would assume you ignistion will off too. your right thoough. the only thing i can think of is to manually adjust the dizzy until the desired rpms is set (700- 600 ish) I dont think anything will beat the timing light.

11-18-2009, 03:00 PM	#5
phyregod !!YTINASNI Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Central Texas Age: 30 Posts: 9,151 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '06 Element , '07 CBR 1000rr, '91 CRX, '98 jeep GC 4x4 Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 509	As far as I know you need the cover.. You can get it close by setting the number one piston to tdc, then aligning the marks on the pulleys with the head itself, but you're out of luck For fine tuning without a cover. Hit eBay for a lower cover at the very least..

11-19-2009, 12:02 PM	#6
bakerderek0 Up a Creek... Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Flowery Branch, GA Age: 24 Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 94 Hatch B16A2 Rep Power: 3	ahhh.. to ebay it is! I wonder how much of a pain this is gonna be. To the helms!

11-19-2009, 02:24 PM	#7
Taco15 I wear stretchy pants Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Tallahassee Fl Age: 26 Posts: 5,457 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: chevy s-10 Rep Power: 288	you could just take it to a shop to set the timing. Or just go buy one at autozone. now that i think of it. You can prolly rent one there too. Put some money down, take it outside, set the timing and bring it right back and get your money.

11-19-2009, 06:48 PM	#9
phyregod !!YTINASNI Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Central Texas Age: 30 Posts: 9,151 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '06 Element , '07 CBR 1000rr, '91 CRX, '98 jeep GC 4x4 Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 509	Can't time it without a reference mark!

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