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khai_tuan_nguyen · 04-19-2004, 01:04 PM

Hi,
My setup is b20b block with b16 head in a 97 civic. The car has JE 12:1 CR pistons and until i get hondata I have timing back at 14 to stop pinging. Well it still pinged so I was recommended to get a fuel pump and fpr upgrade until i get hondata.

So here is the problem. I installed walbro 255 lph fuel pump and modified stock fpr with B & M.

The first problem was that the fuel pressure would not go down under 60 psi and my car bogged during acceleration. I was then told that it probably was because the stock fpr was not regulating fuel and that i should get the aem one.

I recently bought the aem one and installed it, my pressure is now at 40 psi with vacumm connected, however i still can not raise psi or lower it and my car bogs more than before and at idles at certain intervals it bogs and even sometimes turns off the motor. Any ideas???

Thanks
Khai

Arachnid · 04-20-2004, 01:05 AM

i had a friend with a gsr swap and his car was mad boggin'. he later found out it was his fuel injectors, it turned out he had the wrong ones and it wasn't doing it's job correctly. 12.1 is high compression, compression in which a stock b20b cannot withstand. b20b is known to blow under that kinda compression.

NotUrAverage_Si · 04-20-2004, 01:16 AM

what are you using to adjust the fpr? pliers? (sp?)

khai_tuan_nguyen · 04-20-2004, 02:18 PM

I am using a small flathead in the top of the set screw to adjust the fpr and i turn it all the way in and all the way out and the pressure still reads the same on the gage on the fuel filter. When i changed out the orfice from 0.1 to 0.15 the pressure went up each time i primed the engine and then went down to 0 instantly. I was told to change orfices if i could not change pressure, but when i did that is what happened and the car wouldn't start because no fuel....

cws13 · 04-22-2004, 12:48 AM

What ECU are you running?

welfare · 04-22-2004, 06:14 AM

check fuel filter

khai_tuan_nguyen · 04-22-2004, 11:39 AM

I changed the fuel filter already. I am running a p72. Also when i had the stock fuel pump and used the B & M fpr it worked perfectly. Then i changed my fuel pump to walbro 255lph. Then the B& M one would not regulate and it was at 60 psi. Then i got the aem one and it will not regulate it but it is at 40 psi. I changed orfice from 0.1" to 0.15" and the car would not start and pressure dropped instantly when i primed system.

KHai

JDMilan · 04-22-2004, 06:45 PM

p72 is a GSR obd1 computer, your running the B16 head ??

khai_tuan_nguyen · 04-22-2004, 07:25 PM

I know that, but the point is the fpr when i used the B & M one worked and was adjustable with the stock fuel pump, but when i changed to the walbro 255 lph the B & M and now even the aem one won't adjust it.

Khai

turboB20hatch · 04-22-2004, 07:33 PM

um dont run your car until u get ur hondata in unless u wana blow ur shyt to pieces ur ecu and stock injectors are prolly way confused by that high compression ratio

JDMilan · 04-22-2004, 11:39 PM

you know that........great....

run the proper ECU, run the stock FPR, with OEM injectors..........and you shouldn't have a problem

cws13 · 04-23-2004, 12:13 AM

khai_tuan_nguyen · 04-24-2004, 01:43 AM

I fixed it, the probelm was the spark plugs were foul when i was running it at 60 psi. Once i changed that i could adjust the fpr and it does not bog now.

Thanks for the help
KHai

cws13 · 04-24-2004, 02:21 AM

Just out of curiosity, how did changing the plugs give you the ability to adjust your previously un-adjustable fuel pressure?

khai_tuan_nguyen · 04-26-2004, 11:20 AM

Ok the problem is that I am using an AEM fpr but since the plugs were fouled i couldn't adjust it maybe they were not burning the fuel. I don't know but that is how i fixed it.

DOes it make sense to anyone?

Can anyone explain?

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04-22-2004, 11:39 AM	#7
khai_tuan_nguyen Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 581 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 18	I changed the fuel filter already. I am running a p72. Also when i had the stock fuel pump and used the B & M fpr it worked perfectly. Then i changed my fuel pump to walbro 255lph. Then the B& M one would not regulate and it was at 60 psi. Then i got the aem one and it will not regulate it but it is at 40 psi. I changed orfice from 0.1" to 0.15" and the car would not start and pressure dropped instantly when i primed system. KHai __________________ <a href=\'http://www.hondaswap.com/forums/index.php?act=module&module=gallery &cmd=user&user=25607&op=view_album& album=107\' target=\'_blank\'>PICTURES: Type R Stuff/ B-Series Parts for Sale</a>

04-22-2004, 06:45 PM	#8
JDMilan Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 6,733 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 81	p72 is a GSR obd1 computer, your running the B16 head ?? __________________ <span style=\"color:red\">"92 Blue EG"</span> -Project 3 - Motor A (NA stock SiR longblock B16 EG/S1tran) 14.3@97 15" radial tires & Gutted -Project 3 - Motor B (NA stock SiRII longblock B16 EG/S4tran) 13.3@103 MT's & Gutted <span style=\"color:red\">"Goldy S13"</span> -Project 4 - Motor A (FI SR20DET w/T28 "Under Construction&quot <span style=\"color:red\">"Silver E46"</span> -Project 5 - Motor A (???)

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khai_tuan_nguyen Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 581 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 18	I know that, but the point is the fpr when i used the B & M one worked and was adjustable with the stock fuel pump, but when i changed to the walbro 255 lph the B & M and now even the aem one won't adjust it. Khai __________________ <a href=\'http://www.hondaswap.com/forums/index.php?act=module&module=gallery &cmd=user&user=25607&op=view_album& album=107\' target=\'_blank\'>PICTURES: Type R Stuff/ B-Series Parts for Sale</a>

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JDMilan Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 6,733 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 81	you know that........great.... run the proper ECU, run the stock FPR, with OEM injectors..........and you shouldn't have a problem __________________ <span style=\"color:red\">"92 Blue EG"</span> -Project 3 - Motor A (NA stock SiR longblock B16 EG/S1tran) 14.3@97 15" radial tires & Gutted -Project 3 - Motor B (NA stock SiRII longblock B16 EG/S4tran) 13.3@103 MT's & Gutted <span style=\"color:red\">"Goldy S13"</span> -Project 4 - Motor A (FI SR20DET w/T28 "Under Construction&quot <span style=\"color:red\">"Silver E46"</span> -Project 5 - Motor A (???)

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04-19-2004, 01:04 PM	#1
khai_tuan_nguyen Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 581 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 18	Hi, My setup is b20b block with b16 head in a 97 civic. The car has JE 12:1 CR pistons and until i get hondata I have timing back at 14 to stop pinging. Well it still pinged so I was recommended to get a fuel pump and fpr upgrade until i get hondata. So here is the problem. I installed walbro 255 lph fuel pump and modified stock fpr with B & M. The first problem was that the fuel pressure would not go down under 60 psi and my car bogged during acceleration. I was then told that it probably was because the stock fpr was not regulating fuel and that i should get the aem one. I recently bought the aem one and installed it, my pressure is now at 40 psi with vacumm connected, however i still can not raise psi or lower it and my car bogs more than before and at idles at certain intervals it bogs and even sometimes turns off the motor. Any ideas??? Thanks Khai __________________ <a href=\'http://www.hondaswap.com/forums/index.php?act=module&module=gallery &cmd=user&user=25607&op=view_album& album=107\' target=\'_blank\'>PICTURES: Type R Stuff/ B-Series Parts for Sale</a>

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Arachnid Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 211 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 14	i had a friend with a gsr swap and his car was mad boggin'. he later found out it was his fuel injectors, it turned out he had the wrong ones and it wasn't doing it's job correctly. 12.1 is high compression, compression in which a stock b20b cannot withstand. b20b is known to blow under that kinda compression.

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04-20-2004, 02:18 PM	#4
khai_tuan_nguyen Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 581 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 18	I am using a small flathead in the top of the set screw to adjust the fpr and i turn it all the way in and all the way out and the pressure still reads the same on the gage on the fuel filter. When i changed out the orfice from 0.1 to 0.15 the pressure went up each time i primed the engine and then went down to 0 instantly. I was told to change orfices if i could not change pressure, but when i did that is what happened and the car wouldn't start because no fuel.... __________________ <a href=\'http://www.hondaswap.com/forums/index.php?act=module&module=gallery &cmd=user&user=25607&op=view_album& album=107\' target=\'_blank\'>PICTURES: Type R Stuff/ B-Series Parts for Sale</a>

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04-24-2004, 01:43 AM	#13
khai_tuan_nguyen Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 581 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 18	I fixed it, the probelm was the spark plugs were foul when i was running it at 60 psi. Once i changed that i could adjust the fpr and it does not bog now. Thanks for the help KHai __________________ <a href=\'http://www.hondaswap.com/forums/index.php?act=module&module=gallery &cmd=user&user=25607&op=view_album& album=107\' target=\'_blank\'>PICTURES: Type R Stuff/ B-Series Parts for Sale</a>

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Let me tell you how this works and most importantly, why it works....Also, make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get the information off of it as you need it. I promise you that if you follow the directions exactly, that you will start making more money than you thought possible by doing something so easy! Suggestion: Read this entire message carefully! (print it out or download it.) Follow the simple directions and watch the money come in! It`s easy. It`s legal. And, your investment is only $6.00 (Plus postage) IMPORTANT: This is not a rip-off; it is not indecent; it is not illegal; and it is virtually no risk - it really works!!!! If all of the following instructions are adhered to, you will receive extraordinary dividends. PLEASE NOTE: Please follow these directions EXACTLY, and $50,000 or more can be yours in 20 to 60 days. This program remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of the participants. Please continue its success by carefully adhering to the instructions. You will now become part of the Mail Order business. In this business your product is not solid and tangible, it`s a service. You are in the business of developing Mailing Lists. Many large corporations are happy to pay big bucks for quality lists. However, the money made from the mailing lists is secondary to the income which is made from people like you and me asking to be included in that list. Here are the 4 easy steps to success: STEP 1: Get 6 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each piece of paper;PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST. Now get 6 US $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope (to prevent thievery). Next, place one paper in each of the 6 envelopes and seal them. You should now have 6 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the above phrase, your name and address, and a $1.00 bill. What you are doing is creating a service. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! You are requesting a legitimate service and you are paying for it! Like most of us I was a little skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal! Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses: #1)DEMARIO SMITH 3990 HITCHCOCK DR. MEMPHIS,TN 38128 #2)BRION BELLINGER 12301 KELTON DR. MANOR, TX 78653 #3)ELIZABETH ARIYIBI 20119 BIG TIMBER DRIVE HUMBLE, TEXAS 77346 #4)WILLIAM CRANK 3 8502 TWIN LAKES BLVD TAMPA,FL 33614 #5)SEBASTIEN HEMOND 8075 RHONE BROSSARD,QUEBEC J4X 2K9 CANADA #6)TRAVIS ORN P.O.BOX 616 SAPULPA, OK 74067 STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the other names up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc...) and add YOUR Name as number 6 on the list. STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close to original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at least 200 newsgroups. (I think there are close to 24,000 groups) All you need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the more money you make! This is perfectly legal! If you have any doubts, refer to Title 18 Sec. 1302 & 1341 of the Postal lottery laws. Keep a copy of these steps for yourself and, whenever you need money, you can use it again, and again. PLEASE REMEMBER that this program remains successful because of the honesty and integrity of the participants and by their carefully adhering to the directions. Look at it this way. If you are of integrity, the program will continue and the money that so many others have received will come your way. NOTE: You may want to retain every name and address sent to you, either on a computer or hard copy and keep the notes people send you. This VERIFIES that you are truly providing a service. (Also, it might be a good idea to wrap the $1 bill in dark paper to reduce the risk of mail theft.) So, as each post is downloaded and the directions carefully followed, six members will be reimbursed for their participation as a List Developer with one dollar each. Your name will move up the list geometrically so that when your name reaches the #1 position you will be receiving thousands of dollars in CASH!!! What an opportunity for only $6.00 ($1.00 for each of the first six people listed above) Send it now, add your own name to the list and you`re in business! ---DIRECTIONS ----- FOR HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS------------ Step 1) You do not need to re-type this entire letter to do your own posting. Simply put your cursor at the beginning of this letter and drag your cursor to the bottom of this document, and select `copy` from the edit menu. This will copy the entire letter into the computer`s memory. Step 2) Open a blank `notepad` file and place your cursor at the top of the blank page. From the `edit` menu select `paste`. This will paste a copy of the letter into notepad so that you can add your name to the list. Step 3) Save your new notepad file as a .txt file. If you want to do your postings in different settings, you`ll always have this file to go back to. Step 4) Use Netscape or Internet explorer and try searching for various newsgroups (on-line forums, message boards, chat sites, discussions.) Step 5) Visit these message boards and post this article as a new message by highlighting the text of this letter and selecting paste from the edit menu. Fill in the Subject, this will be the header that everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a particular group, click the post message button. You`re done with your first one! Congratulations...THAT`S IT! All you have to do is jump to different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about 30 seconds for each newsgroup! REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200 That`s it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within days! You may eventually want to rent a P.O.Box due to the large amount of mail you will receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it. JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT. Now the WHY part: Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on the letter. Now, each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200 postings, each with my name at #5 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I will bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #2 and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00!!! Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this message to 200 newsgroups with my name at #1 and if still 5 persons per 200 newsgroups react I will receive $15,625,00! With an original investment of only $6.00! AMAZING! When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $6.00 to names on the list, putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting again. The thing to remember is: do you realize that thousands of people all over the world are joining the internet and reading these articles everyday?, JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So, can you afford $6.00 and see if it really works?? I think so... People have said, "e;what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money? So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are joining the internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day, with thousands of those joining the actual internet. Remember: play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will really work.

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