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Viperlocc_B18C1 · 06-13-2003, 11:45 AM

right now im in the process of throwing the pistons in the block and putting the head back on.
how do you hone? i need to use a hone (new pistons) and im renting one but how do you do it?
and can i use the original head bolts for like 2 weeks..if that cuz im short on money....if i torque them down a little harder i think i can get away with it right?

JDMilan · 06-13-2003, 03:26 PM

oh no, this sounds like a high school science project. If you don't know what your doing please give it to someone who does. There is a tq spec for a reason.

Milan

SixtySecondAssassin · 06-13-2003, 03:33 PM

over torquing would only put more initial stress on bolt

MaaseyRacer · 06-13-2003, 03:42 PM

I have been told that honda head studs are for one time use only, is this true? and if so, I would recommend waiting till you got some coin so that you can replace them...

B16 · 06-13-2003, 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by MaaseyRacer@Jun 13 2003, 11:47 AM
I have been told that honda head studs are for one time use only, is this true? and if so, I would recommend waiting till you got some coin so that you can replace them...

yes, you have seen my broken head bolt from reuse, that was at only 15lbs

MaaseyRacer · 06-13-2003, 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by B16+Jun 13 2003, 01:11 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(B16 @ Jun 13 2003, 01:11 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-MaaseyRacer@Jun 13 2003, 11:47 AM
I have been told that honda head studs are for one time use only, is this true? and if so, I would recommend waiting till you got some coin so that you can replace them...

yes, you have seen my broken head bolt from reuse, that was at only 15lbs [/b][/quote]
that is right you are the one who told me that, and I saw the bolt too... yeah man get new ones...

Viperlocc_B18C1 · 06-13-2003, 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by JDMilan@Jun 13 2003, 02:31 PM
oh no, this sounds like a high school science project. If you don't know what your doing please give it to someone who does. There is a tq spec for a reason.

Milan

for ur info its not a highschool project..ive went from a supra to a honda and yes, the motor is way different as you can use the same headbolts that were taken out. some people on honda-tech say you can re use as one guys has been on his turbo motor...but i prolly wont chance it. and was told by a machine shop its not needed to hone as it can cause more damage...but i have to check for scoring as i didnt see any

D See 2 · 06-13-2003, 06:32 PM

honda head bolts are NOT torque-to-yield (one time use) bolts. i personally called honda myself and asked if new bolts were required and they said no. then again heads are not meant to be taken off like every other week so i would only re-use the bolts 2 more times at most. and please do not over torque them.

Gen2Teg · 06-13-2003, 08:27 PM

i would just use new head bolts

JDMilan · 06-14-2003, 11:21 AM

Viper, I was being sarcastic. I would replace the head bolts and a good starting point would be the old one's site on info regarding "honeing".

Milan

Viperlocc_B18C1 · 06-14-2003, 04:52 PM

bah, arp head studs are ordered...hell with it..i want it done right the first time, no half ass job...so blah

B16 · 06-16-2003, 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by DTEC@Jun 13 2003, 02:37 PM
honda head bolts are NOT torque-to-yield (one time use) bolts. i personally called honda myself and asked if new bolts were required and they said no. then again heads are not meant to be taken off like every other week so i would only re-use the bolts 2 more times at most. and please do not over torque them.

mine broke from just taking the head off once. i'll never reuse again, just from personal experience. i dont like the idea of getting another one stuck in the head.

glad to hear you got new ones, great insurance to have

06-13-2003, 11:45 AM	#1
Viperlocc_B18C1 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 115 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	right now im in the process of throwing the pistons in the block and putting the head back on. how do you hone? i need to use a hone (new pistons) and im renting one but how do you do it? and can i use the original head bolts for like 2 weeks..if that cuz im short on money....if i torque them down a little harder i think i can get away with it right? __________________ 1994 Black Civic HB - 5spd, GSR swap, GSR interior, GSR brake swap, CTR pistons, Stage 1 head, AEM CAI, LS Rims, Tanabe Exhaust, Tokiko 5way adjustable shocks, Coilovers - FASTEST TIME - N/A (soon) Signatures are NOT allowed on HS. PLease don't not put this pic back in. Mod

06-13-2003, 03:26 PM	#2
JDMilan Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 6,733 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 81	oh no, this sounds like a high school science project. If you don't know what your doing please give it to someone who does. There is a tq spec for a reason. Milan __________________ <span style=\"color:red\">"92 Blue EG"</span> -Project 3 - Motor A (NA stock SiR longblock B16 EG/S1tran) 14.3@97 15" radial tires & Gutted -Project 3 - Motor B (NA stock SiRII longblock B16 EG/S4tran) 13.3@103 MT's & Gutted <span style=\"color:red\">"Goldy S13"</span> -Project 4 - Motor A (FI SR20DET w/T28 "Under Construction&quot <span style=\"color:red\">"Silver E46"</span> -Project 5 - Motor A (???)

06-13-2003, 03:33 PM	#3
SixtySecondAssassin Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,071 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 25	over torquing would only put more initial stress on bolt __________________ .....deagle.....

06-13-2003, 03:42 PM	#4
MaaseyRacer Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Francisco, Ca. Posts: 2,975 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 44	I have been told that honda head studs are for one time use only, is this true? and if so, I would recommend waiting till you got some coin so that you can replace them... __________________ 2004 Toyota Tacoma 3.4L V6 TRD Package 4WD ----------------------

06-13-2003, 06:32 PM	#8
D See 2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Baltimore, MD Age: 25 Posts: 2,401 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '92 Civic CX Rep Power: 39	honda head bolts are NOT torque-to-yield (one time use) bolts. i personally called honda myself and asked if new bolts were required and they said no. then again heads are not meant to be taken off like every other week so i would only re-use the bolts 2 more times at most. and please do not over torque them. __________________ Garage: 1992 CX Hatch > Current Money Pit Grave: R.I.P. 1995 Integra GSR R.I.P. 1990 DX Hatch R.I.P. 1990 CRX Si


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06-13-2003, 08:27 PM	#9
Gen2Teg Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: san francisco Age: 24 Posts: 555 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: DC2 ITR and DC4 LS Rep Power: 19	i would just use new head bolts __________________

06-14-2003, 11:21 AM	#10
JDMilan Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 6,733 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 81	Viper, I was being sarcastic. I would replace the head bolts and a good starting point would be the old one's site on info regarding "honeing". Milan __________________ <span style=\"color:red\">"92 Blue EG"</span> -Project 3 - Motor A (NA stock SiR longblock B16 EG/S1tran) 14.3@97 15" radial tires & Gutted -Project 3 - Motor B (NA stock SiRII longblock B16 EG/S4tran) 13.3@103 MT's & Gutted <span style=\"color:red\">"Goldy S13"</span> -Project 4 - Motor A (FI SR20DET w/T28 "Under Construction&quot <span style=\"color:red\">"Silver E46"</span> -Project 5 - Motor A (???)

06-14-2003, 04:52 PM	#11
Viperlocc_B18C1 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 115 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	bah, arp head studs are ordered...hell with it..i want it done right the first time, no half ass job...so blah __________________ 1994 Black Civic HB - 5spd, GSR swap, GSR interior, GSR brake swap, CTR pistons, Stage 1 head, AEM CAI, LS Rims, Tanabe Exhaust, Tokiko 5way adjustable shocks, Coilovers - FASTEST TIME - N/A (soon) Signatures are NOT allowed on HS. PLease don't not put this pic back in. Mod

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