hondafreak513

Just wanting to know what everyone else thinks about this rebuild kit I found on ebay..B16B Civic Type R Pistons Engine Kit Integra GSR B18C - eBay (item 120644965199 end time Nov-18-10 12:27:53 PST)

awptickes

Looks like it's all there. Price isn't bad if those are OEM pistons. Doesn't look like it though. Bearings make me not want to trust it. OEM bearings or go home.

I wouldn't buy it because of the bearings. OE bearings and I'd think about it.

hondafreak513

yeah i like OE bearings too. I just ran across it and thought it would be good to rebuild my friends motor. He liked the kit especially the price. I was just wondering if the parts are good..

awptickes

good, fast, cheap. Pick two.

hondafreak513

good thought

Magana559

i picked all 3

look at my build, made killer power and this build sees 8k almost every day

awptickes

then you didn't pick fast. you picked almost fast.

Magana559

fast for the price

K2e2vin

it's actually "reliable", not good...as good can be synonymous with all three combined(how "good" a setup is).

You really don't have to pick, just balance all three(compromise). If you're patient and get lucky, you can definitely have all three(deals on quality parts).

brian11to1

Who here has experience with OEM bearings and ACL's? Who here has had bad experiences with either/or?

No one?

I ran ACL standards in my B20... they were plastigauged and uhm checked out within spec and have lasted! so... why all the OEM nutswinging?

civicious

I've ran both YCP pistons and King bearings before, with zero problems. Really good products, in my opinion.

K2e2vin

Bearings should not be a concern so long as they're have the proper clearance.

josh_crewdson@y

I'm using king bearings in my b16 with 20k trouble free miles. I rev it to 9k atleast once per drive, and she runs 4.5k down the interstate. oh yeah, mobile 1 synthetic oil...

hondafreak513

I am liking all the good opinions here.. now what about this kit with LS crank and LS rods. should be a good setup then.. with a GSR block B16 head...

brian11to1

Are the bearings specifically for a GSR? If they are you might wanna double check to make sure the GSR bearings will work on w/an LS crank. I remember reading that the GSR mains are wider than an LS. Not entirely sure though.

hondafreak513

Ah your right brian I do believe they are. I think I saw that same thing in another thread...

awptickes

Because there's no fucking way the seller of that eBay kit could be selling the rebuild kit for the exact engine. Most people don't use the right size bearings on everything.

K2e2vin

OEM only works if you measure or use the table anyways. Not exactly fool-proof either.

hondafreak513

The LS crank and rods are just a thought right now.. but the kit we will probably get, for some reason money doesn't grow on trees in Ohio very well.

brian11to1

if you run OEM bearings you still have to plastigauge to make sure your clearances are correct. same goes for ACL/KING/CLEVITE bearings... or am I missing the point of where your argument that OEM is best

which is why you'd plastiguage and check clearances while assembling...

awptickes

That eBay kit was touted as being "all you need," and I only saw one set of bearings in there, also no plastigauge strips.

brian11to1

Unless I'm misreading the description, the kit comes with main bearings, rod bearings and thrust washers... and typically plastiguage is something the engine builder/assembler has on hand. Shit, I havent built an engine in over a year and I have some laying around.


bottom line, if its in your budget and you have half a clue on assembling your engine, go for it. this kit is 99% complete (that 1% being plastiguage and oil/assembly lube)

hondafreak513

so the parts then are a good name brand

Magana559

they are good stuff, I used the nippon pistons in my build and nippon master gasket set.

ACL, King, and OEM bearings are all good. clearances is what makes things go wrong. If your building a OEM rebuild that will last 200k miles then yes go oem but if your building a budget build, ACL is a nice way to go IF they fit. you can always mix and match.