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kingmarc63 · 12-03-2003, 12:20 PM

Let me know what kind of experiences you guys had with either of these tranny fluids and which do you reccommend for synchro problems.....
Thanks

E_SolSi · 12-03-2003, 12:40 PM

match revs and dont FORCE it into gear

never used any of those fluids

cycloneb18c3 · 12-03-2003, 01:42 PM

Mine do the same thing. Sometimes 2nd, 3rd and 4th. not all the time though. never tried anything.

kingmarc63 · 12-03-2003, 02:20 PM

i am afraid to get my ass whop because of tranny problem...
then having to try and explain it to the winner.

swanny · 12-03-2003, 07:39 PM

Why not just save the damn 10 dollars your going to use on the oil and put it towards new synchros?

kingmarc63 · 12-03-2003, 08:08 PM

xyswany, are u going put the synchros in my tranny when i buy them... fucktard???
do you know how costly it is to replace those, i might has well get a new tranny...

swanny · 12-03-2003, 08:12 PM

then buy a new goddamn tranny.

JDMilan · 12-03-2003, 10:49 PM

I always use and recommend the oem MTF,

and please stop "power shifting" you dont' gain shit from it,

jiahanhao · 12-03-2003, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDMilan@Dec 3 2003, 10:49 PM
I always use and recommend the oem MTF,

and please stop "power shifting" you dont' gain shit from it,

Redline oils are nice... in my humble opinion

and i think "power shifting" has a definite benefit: keeping honda and some poor mechanic somewhere in the money

kingmarc63 · 12-03-2003, 11:35 PM

i don't mean to be a moron but what is your definition of power shifting?? i want to make sure i am on the same page as you guys

i granny shift most of the times unless i am challenged

jiahanhao · 12-03-2003, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kingmarc63@Dec 3 2003, 11:35 PM
i don't mean to be a moron but what is your definition of power shifting?? i want to make sure i am on the same page as you guys

i granny shift most of the times unless i am challenged

I'm feeling a definite Fast and Furious vibe here, with the granny shifting and the power shifting...

anyways, powershifting is when you fail to take your foot off the gas while frantically mashing on the clutch, changing gears and popping the clutch... puts a lot of stress on the entire drivetrain, and gains absolutely nothing

kingmarc63 · 12-03-2003, 11:50 PM

for more F&F terms:

i granny shift and double clutch when i don't want to grind 3rd gear,
but i can't do that if i want to kick an ass or 2
so i am looking for a cheap temp or permanent fix for this.

pissedoffsol · 12-04-2003, 07:10 AM

christ.

power shifting is good if your clutch blows out on you and you need to limp home. thats about it.

use honda MTF.
and learn how to drive like a non movie-driver fuckface

ryanwolfe911 · 12-04-2003, 08:01 AM

YOU CAN"T USE ANYTHING OTHER THAN HONDA MTF!!!! Or maybe regular 10W30 as a temporary substitute. If you would stop driving like a fucktard(no flaming intended), you wouldn't even need synchros in the first place. Go ahead and put redline MTF in your tranny. It says on the back that it's safe for use in Honda automoblies, but it's 75W90 gear oil!!!! I don't care what they say, that shit will blow up your tranny faster than you can say jack flash. There is no fix for worn synchros, except to replace them. I have 145,000 miles on my original 93 si tranny, and it still shifts as good as when it was new, because i don't power shift, it's useless and fucking stupid. I agree with some of the ppl here, guys like you keep my shop in business, blowing trannys left and right. I probably replace at least 2 Honda tranny's a week. Then I take the bad one, put new synchronizers in it and resell it for like $300. PPl don't ever want their transes re-built, they just allways want me to put in a used one. Shit, I've even put more than 3 tranny's in the same persons car, cause the goddamn idiot won't stop F&F'in around in his riced out shit box
FUCK!!!! sorry about the rant, but this shit just pisses me off

2000Si · 12-04-2003, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xyswany@Dec 3 2003, 08:12 PM
then buy a new goddamn tranny.

If you can't figure that one out you shouldn't be street racing people anyway.

kingmarc63 · 12-04-2003, 02:59 PM

OK PEOPLE...CALM DOWN CALM DOWN...
I DON'T WANT TO FLOOD THIS TREAD WITH PEOPLE VOICING THEIR OPINIONS.I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHO HAVE USED THESE OILS.I KNOW ABOUT HONDA MTL BUT THAT WON'T HELP ME NOW. MANY PEOPLE WITH A LOW BUDGET HAVE USED THE ADDITIVES AND OILS LISTED ABOVE WITH GOOD RESULTS ON AN ALREADY FUCKED UP TRANNY....SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THE THREE CHOICES ABOVE ....SHUT YOUR FUCKING HOLE...PLEASE, LETS KEEP THIS CONSTRUCTIVE AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT ME DRIVING. IF ALL YOU HAVE IS JUST OPINION AND NO EXPERIENCES WITH THE POLL OPTIONS, JUST READ AND MOVE ON..

kingmarc63 · 12-06-2003, 04:08 AM

so much to say and no votes???

ryanwolfe911 · 12-07-2003, 01:44 PM

FINE!! I guess if your trans is already fucked up, then go ahead and try anything. It probably wouldn't hurt.

highperboi · 12-07-2003, 01:53 PM

i work at acura(as a runner) and the techs always tell me to use 10-30 because its thicker then MTF. I was using MTF before the told me and i would always grind 5th going on the freeway and now that i use 10-30 i only grind 5th when 4th is 5k or over.

cws13 · 12-07-2003, 02:28 PM

Honda MTF is a fix for grinding is certain cases. Try it first, when the sync's are lubed from inside the shaft, thinner is better in some ways. I have seen guys run Red Line with no problem. However, I seriously doubt that it's going to help at this point.

JDMilan · 12-07-2003, 05:38 PM

I have seen peeps use the redline stuff and had no problems, I always used the MTF from honda simply because "a lot" of repectable tuners use them only, so I took their word for it and have never had problems, shit I even bought a tranny from a guy that told me that the tranny he was selling grinds a little goign into 5th on had accelaeration, and i used MTF with it and had no problems what so ever.

Like I posted before and what B said, the problem starts with drivers shifting way to hard.

Seen people do it, seen plenty of problems with it.

Best of luck with your lubrication selection for your transmission.

eyesonlybob · 12-12-2003, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kingmarc63@Dec 3 2003, 08:08 PM
xyswany, are u going put the synchros in my tranny when i buy them... fucktard???
do you know how costly it is to replace those, i might has well get a new tranny...

actually, its not that costly if you do it yourself. i replaced my 1st/2nd syncro set and eliminated the grinds. parts came to $400

soooo...$400 vs ~$1000 isnt that bad

plus, you get to do the work yourself.

edit: gm syncromesh did not get rid of grinds in my tranny, but it did make shifts much much smoother. i switched from syncromesh to honda mtf and imediately noticed a difference.

kingmarc63 · 12-14-2003, 08:44 AM

if i am going to spend $400 on parts to replace my syncros myself, i might as well sell my old tranny for $300 and buy another tranny (lsd ) for $700
just a thought

kingmarc63 · 12-18-2003, 11:24 PM

Fuck gm synchromesh it made my 3rd gear grinds worst
Lucas tranny fix worked better

kingmarc63 · 01-05-2004, 06:36 AM

View Poll Results: What have you guys used has a temp or permanant fix for synchro problems?
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12-03-2003, 12:20 PM	#1
kingmarc63 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	Let me know what kind of experiences you guys had with either of these tranny fluids and which do you reccommend for synchro problems..... Thanks __________________ H22Acclude: That is after i frankensteined my 95 accord lx with a h22 type s prelude with lsd tranny: HAHAHAHA

12-03-2003, 01:42 PM	#3
cycloneb18c3 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 23 Posts: 1,056 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 23	Mine do the same thing. Sometimes 2nd, 3rd and 4th. not all the time though. never tried anything. __________________ whoever said nothing is impossible, never tried slamming a revolving door

12-03-2003, 02:20 PM	#4
kingmarc63 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	i am afraid to get my ass whop because of tranny problem... then having to try and explain it to the winner. __________________ H22Acclude: That is after i frankensteined my 95 accord lx with a h22 type s prelude with lsd tranny: HAHAHAHA

12-03-2003, 07:39 PM	#5
swanny Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: buck teeth and government checks, PA Posts: 3,782 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 50	Why not just save the damn 10 dollars your going to use on the oil and put it towards new synchros? __________________ http://www.midwesthybrid.com


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12-03-2003, 08:08 PM	#6
kingmarc63 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	xyswany, are u going put the synchros in my tranny when i buy them... fucktard??? do you know how costly it is to replace those, i might has well get a new tranny... __________________ H22Acclude: That is after i frankensteined my 95 accord lx with a h22 type s prelude with lsd tranny: HAHAHAHA

12-03-2003, 08:12 PM	#7
swanny Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: buck teeth and government checks, PA Posts: 3,782 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 50	then buy a new goddamn tranny. __________________ http://www.midwesthybrid.com

12-03-2003, 10:49 PM	#8
JDMilan Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 6,733 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 81	I always use and recommend the oem MTF, and please stop "power shifting" you dont' gain shit from it, __________________ <span style=\"color:red\">"92 Blue EG"</span> -Project 3 - Motor A (NA stock SiR longblock B16 EG/S1tran) 14.3@97 15" radial tires & Gutted -Project 3 - Motor B (NA stock SiRII longblock B16 EG/S4tran) 13.3@103 MT's & Gutted <span style=\"color:red\">"Goldy S13"</span> -Project 4 - Motor A (FI SR20DET w/T28 "Under Construction&quot <span style=\"color:red\">"Silver E46"</span> -Project 5 - Motor A (???)

12-03-2003, 11:35 PM	#10
kingmarc63 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	i don't mean to be a moron but what is your definition of power shifting?? i want to make sure i am on the same page as you guys i granny shift most of the times unless i am challenged __________________ H22Acclude: That is after i frankensteined my 95 accord lx with a h22 type s prelude with lsd tranny: HAHAHAHA

12-03-2003, 11:50 PM	#12
kingmarc63 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	for more F&F terms: i granny shift and double clutch when i don't want to grind 3rd gear, but i can't do that if i want to kick an ass or 2 so i am looking for a cheap temp or permanent fix for this. __________________ H22Acclude: That is after i frankensteined my 95 accord lx with a h22 type s prelude with lsd tranny: HAHAHAHA

12-04-2003, 07:10 AM	#13
pissedoffsol RETIRED Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Retirement Home Age: 29 Posts: 49,951 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: Electric Scooter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 531	christ. power shifting is good if your clutch blows out on you and you need to limp home. thats about it. use honda MTF. and learn how to drive like a non movie-driver fuckface

12-04-2003, 08:01 AM	#14
ryanwolfe911 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ohio Posts: 246 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 16	YOU CAN"T USE ANYTHING OTHER THAN HONDA MTF!!!! Or maybe regular 10W30 as a temporary substitute. If you would stop driving like a fucktard(no flaming intended), you wouldn't even need synchros in the first place. Go ahead and put redline MTF in your tranny. It says on the back that it's safe for use in Honda automoblies, but it's 75W90 gear oil!!!! I don't care what they say, that shit will blow up your tranny faster than you can say jack flash. There is no fix for worn synchros, except to replace them. I have 145,000 miles on my original 93 si tranny, and it still shifts as good as when it was new, because i don't power shift, it's useless and fucking stupid. I agree with some of the ppl here, guys like you keep my shop in business, blowing trannys left and right. I probably replace at least 2 Honda tranny's a week. Then I take the bad one, put new synchronizers in it and resell it for like $300. PPl don't ever want their transes re-built, they just allways want me to put in a used one. Shit, I've even put more than 3 tranny's in the same persons car, cause the goddamn idiot won't stop F&F'in around in his riced out shit box FUCK!!!! sorry about the rant, but this shit just pisses me off __________________ [color=red]If 4 out of 5 people suffer from diahrea, does that mean 1 person enjoys it?

12-04-2003, 02:59 PM	#16
kingmarc63 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	OK PEOPLE...CALM DOWN CALM DOWN... I DON'T WANT TO FLOOD THIS TREAD WITH PEOPLE VOICING THEIR OPINIONS.I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHO HAVE USED THESE OILS.I KNOW ABOUT HONDA MTL BUT THAT WON'T HELP ME NOW. MANY PEOPLE WITH A LOW BUDGET HAVE USED THE ADDITIVES AND OILS LISTED ABOVE WITH GOOD RESULTS ON AN ALREADY FUCKED UP TRANNY....SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THE THREE CHOICES ABOVE ....SHUT YOUR FUCKING HOLE...PLEASE, LETS KEEP THIS CONSTRUCTIVE AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT ME DRIVING. IF ALL YOU HAVE IS JUST OPINION AND NO EXPERIENCES WITH THE POLL OPTIONS, JUST READ AND MOVE ON.. __________________ H22Acclude: That is after i frankensteined my 95 accord lx with a h22 type s prelude with lsd tranny: HAHAHAHA

12-06-2003, 04:08 AM	#17
kingmarc63 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	so much to say and no votes??? __________________ H22Acclude: That is after i frankensteined my 95 accord lx with a h22 type s prelude with lsd tranny: HAHAHAHA

12-07-2003, 01:44 PM	#18
ryanwolfe911 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ohio Posts: 246 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 16	FINE!! I guess if your trans is already fucked up, then go ahead and try anything. It probably wouldn't hurt. __________________ [color=red]If 4 out of 5 people suffer from diahrea, does that mean 1 person enjoys it?

12-07-2003, 01:53 PM	#19
highperboi Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Alameda, California Posts: 971 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 24	i work at acura(as a runner) and the techs always tell me to use 10-30 because its thicker then MTF. I was using MTF before the told me and i would always grind 5th going on the freeway and now that i use 10-30 i only grind 5th when 4th is 5k or over. __________________ my <a href=\'http://www.hondaswap.com/gallery/browse.php?album_id=668\' target=\'_blank\'>civic</a> can burn stationwagons.....when they're parked

12-07-2003, 02:28 PM	#20
cws13 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Athens,GA Posts: 484 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 19	Honda MTF is a fix for grinding is certain cases. Try it first, when the sync's are lubed from inside the shaft, thinner is better in some ways. I have seen guys run Red Line with no problem. However, I seriously doubt that it's going to help at this point. __________________ 1320 Motorsports Athens,GA <a href=\'http://www.1320motorsports.com\' target=\'_blank\'>1320 MOTORSPORTS</a>

12-07-2003, 05:38 PM	#21
JDMilan Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 6,733 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 81	I have seen peeps use the redline stuff and had no problems, I always used the MTF from honda simply because "a lot" of repectable tuners use them only, so I took their word for it and have never had problems, shit I even bought a tranny from a guy that told me that the tranny he was selling grinds a little goign into 5th on had accelaeration, and i used MTF with it and had no problems what so ever. Like I posted before and what B said, the problem starts with drivers shifting way to hard. Seen people do it, seen plenty of problems with it. Best of luck with your lubrication selection for your transmission. __________________ <span style=\"color:red\">"92 Blue EG"</span> -Project 3 - Motor A (NA stock SiR longblock B16 EG/S1tran) 14.3@97 15" radial tires & Gutted -Project 3 - Motor B (NA stock SiRII longblock B16 EG/S4tran) 13.3@103 MT's & Gutted <span style=\"color:red\">"Goldy S13"</span> -Project 4 - Motor A (FI SR20DET w/T28 "Under Construction&quot <span style=\"color:red\">"Silver E46"</span> -Project 5 - Motor A (???)

12-14-2003, 08:44 AM	#23
kingmarc63 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	if i am going to spend $400 on parts to replace my syncros myself, i might as well sell my old tranny for $300 and buy another tranny (lsd ) for $700 just a thought __________________ H22Acclude: That is after i frankensteined my 95 accord lx with a h22 type s prelude with lsd tranny: HAHAHAHA

12-18-2003, 11:24 PM	#24
kingmarc63 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	Fuck gm synchromesh it made my 3rd gear grinds worst Lucas tranny fix worked better __________________ H22Acclude: That is after i frankensteined my 95 accord lx with a h22 type s prelude with lsd tranny: HAHAHAHA

01-05-2004, 06:36 AM	#25
kingmarc63 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	bump __________________ H22Acclude: That is after i frankensteined my 95 accord lx with a h22 type s prelude with lsd tranny: HAHAHAHA

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