D16z6 Timing Issue?

[Phil_Civic]

Hey everyone,

I've been searching around but can't seem to find the answer that fixes my problem.

I just rebuilt and replaced my cylinder head on my 93 Civic Si. I put in brand new valves and guides, all new seals and gaskets. The head was pressure tested, resurfaced, valve grind to reseat, and had the machine shop put the guides and everything on the head back together. Only thing I had to do was put the cam in and rocker arm assembly.

I've got the head back on now, but I can't get the car to start. There's spark, fuel and compression. I lined the mark on the balancer in TDC, and the mark on the cam with the mark on the timing cover back plate, and "up" facing up and slightly forward. The rotor in the dizzy is also facing the #1 cylinder, so I'm not 180 out, I don't think.

The engine comes close, but won't quite start, even when I move the timing belt over a tooth or two.

Any help or suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks,
Phil

 

[99sidude]

Go through and check all of your grounds. The most important ones are the one down by the starter, the one that bolts to the thermostat housing, and the one going from the valve cover to the rad. support. The last time I had my car totally apart I forgot to tighten down one of the grounds, causing it to crank and crank but not fire.

 

[bluejcivic]

you have set set to the exhaust stroke, you need to set it to the compression stroke, make sure your cam lobes are facing up, and not down. try checking that.

 

[Phil_Civic]

Go through and check all of your grounds. The most important ones are the one down by the starter, the one that bolts to the thermostat housing, and the one going from the valve cover to the rad. support. The last time I had my car totally apart I forgot to tighten down one of the grounds, causing it to crank and crank but not fire.

Oh, alright. I'll take a look when it's not pouring rain and dark out. That could be the problem.

Thanks,
Phil

you have set set to the exhaust stroke, you need to set it to the compression stroke, make sure your cam lobes are facing up, and not down. try checking that.

I'm pretty positive I have it set TDC on compression stroke, but I'll double check to be safe.

Thanks,
Phil

 

[Phil_Civic]

Got it! Guy over on honda-tech mentioned that I hadn't adjusted the valves. They were way too tight since I put the new valves in.

Thanks a lot guys,
Phil

 

[GlassHeadlights]

Got it! Guy over on honda-tech mentioned that I hadn't adjusted the valves. They were way too tight since I put the new valves in.

Thanks a lot guys,
Phil

Weird. When I rebuilt my Z6 head my valves were too tight and it ran but really bad.

 

[Phil_Civic]

Weird. When I rebuilt my Z6 head my valves were too tight and it ran but really bad.

Yeah. I guess mine was a bit of an extreme case. It's running now though

 

[GlassHeadlights]

Yeah. I guess mine was a bit of an extreme case. It's running now though

Haha you think? You're the guy who bought the red EG right? If so how's it comeing along?

 

[Phil_Civic]

Haha you think? You're the guy who bought the red EG right? If so how's it comeing along?

haha - Yeah, that was me. My brother needed a car, so I just sold it to him for what I paid . I bought another D16z6 to rebuild. I've only done the head so far, 'cause the parts I want from fj distributors are still back ordered and I fried my head gasket on my DD being an idiot...lol...

I'm considering getting the tuner turbo kit from go-autoworks and trying to get 150whp on my stock block and then I'd like to have 200 whp on my DD once I build the bottom end.

 

[GlassHeadlights]

haha - Yeah, that was me. My brother needed a car, so I just sold it to him for what I paid . I bought another D16z6 to rebuild. I've only done the head so far, 'cause the parts I want from fj distributors are still back ordered and I fried my head gasket on my DD being an idiot...lol...

I'm considering getting the tuner turbo kit from go-autoworks and trying to get 150whp on my stock block and then I'd like to have 200 whp on my DD once I build the bottom end.

Well thats a bummer on the back order and selling the car. I would love to find a beat up EG to play with.

Don't know if you've seen this.... FOR-TRADE: 92-2000 Honda civic Turbo ready! Saanich, Victoria

 

[Phil_Civic]

Well thats a bummer on the back order and selling the car. I would love to find a beat up EG to play with.

Don't know if you've seen this.... FOR-TRADE: 92-2000 Honda civic Turbo ready! Saanich, Victoria

Yeah, I was pumped on getting that car...haha. Oh well.

Oh yeah. That's actually kind of tempting. I'd rather build my own block though to be honest.