if you're not represented by the dems, you're screwed.

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Even the people on welfare are screwed. Their funding will be spread a lot thinner than it ALREADY is.

The dems are fucking all of us, including their MAIN constituents.

Theres no public option, costs are going to rise, service will decrease, our nat debt will increase, care will be rationed, quality of care will decrease, you will not be able to keep your doctor.

Write to your elected officials. Vote against every Obama democrat & every GWB republican.
 
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so, in order to get this to actually pass, they are effectively keeping the republicans out of this?
how the fuck does that work?

this is just really getting out of control.
 
so, in order to get this to actually pass, they are effectively keeping the republicans out of this?
how the fuck does that work?

this is just really getting out of control.

The republicans kept themselves out of it by sucking as elected officials & not opposing GWB. Many of them got voted out of office. The obamacrats have bullet-proof majorities in congress and can pass ANYTHING they want.

@ Dachet - the plan from the start was to sideline any who are opposed to this plan. Just because the president said he would do something does not mean he was telling the truth. He promised to give us a bi-partisan plan and that will not be happening. He promised to open up the heathcare debates, yet everything gets done in Pelosi's office. Obama promised (while campaigning) that we, the American people, would be able to view each and every bill considered by congress online 48hrs before a vote. If that had been done to the "stimulus" plan, it never would have passed.
 
some how i told ya so just doesn't quite cut it....
 
In 2012 I say politicians aren't allowed to run for anything. If you've been a mayor before, no. A bunch of average Joes would do a better job 7 days out of the week.

Or just hand it over to the few self-made super rich and let them work it out.
 
some how i told ya so just doesn't quite cut it....


Yeah. Where's mccain & palin to save the day? :rolleyes:




Gotta love it when our only options are two people playing different positions on the same team.
 
B was speaking more towards Ron Paul. But anyway, the closed door meetings have more to do with not letting the republicans or the american people see the bribery and general blowjobing that will be going on to get this passed. See the thing is the Dems see this as their meal ticket. They will get some fatty ass pork shoved into this in exchange for theor support. Obama seems to think this will be his legacy his chance to be talked about durimg American history so he is not going to allow pesky things like debate slow him down. I mean we are all to stupid to know what's good for us.
 
2000-2008, the Republicans sidestepped the Democrats every chance they got. Before that, every party sidestepped the other party whenever they had the chance. It's party politics itself that's the problem. How many times have I posted George Washington's farewell speech where he warns that 'the spirit of party generally' could tear the country apart?
 
2000-2008, the Republicans sidestepped the Democrats every chance they got. Before that, every party sidestepped the other party whenever they had the chance. It's party politics itself that's the problem. How many times have I posted George Washington's farewell speech where he warns that 'the spirit of party generally' could tear the country apart?

I've argued in the past for constitutional protections against parties in general, but you really can't stop people from thinking about something, even if you limit it in broad daylight. The real solution would be for people to simply vote out the douchebags that put their party before the country.

So the only thing to really do is:

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And these are just the scabs of the REAL infection.
Check out Parentalrights.org
Or (forgot the site) How the Socialists/dems are trying to take YOUR rights to water away under the guise of the U.N. so like the parental rights (C.R.C), the UN legislation would OVER-RIDE your constitutional rights and THEY tell YOU how you can use YOUR water..
That's a big deal in the West as the socialists are using the scam of that little fish so that THEY can control the water! DAMN ENVIRONMENTALISTS!!

That's how it starts. If no one stands up to fight or stop that mentality all of a sudden, YOU could be arrested or detained and ALL of your assets siezed and you quieted..
Siezed by Who? You ask?? The corrupt so called leaders that no one stood up to as they were climbing thier political ladder. (just watch the history/military chanel and see it all happening again.. Just on OUR SOIL!)
"Those who don't learn from history are BOUND to repeat it"
In ALL parties, not just the dems.

Back when our country was in it's infancy and after our constitution was inplace. These anti-freedom goofs would have been tarred and feathered or hung in the square for all to see, this is what happens to corruption that threatens our freedoms that we shed our blood for against the English and British..
That's what our second amendment was structured for.. NOT to take someone to court and have them appoint a judge 'on the take' to get them freed and back in power.. IT WAS TO KILL AND DESTROY the threats against our freedoms.
Why do you think that THEY have been (sucessfully) in trying to take YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS to "bear arms"

Already on the 'front burner' is to silence speach and it's been there for decades now! It started with "Political Correctness" where one could be leagally destroyed for saying something "offensive"


Sure it's fun to work on cars, and look at what we've supported through the aftermarket and ingeniuety (?) through our FREEDOMS. But think of Japan and how they HAVE TO turn thier cars in after so many miles and are forced to buy new! When I was in Germany in the late 80's, I talked to many old/young people who worked on cars and they told me you would've filed paperwork to just install a front air-dam and then have it inspected before approval!

Thank you for posting that and keep up the watchful eyes. But mostly
SPEAK UP for your God given rights, or you won't have any anymore!

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Everything wrong with this country can be traced back to the complacency of it's citizens.

this statement couldn't me more truthful.

all of the assclowns, idiots, and broke dicks that sat on the sidelines or voted for whoever though could help them be an even bigger assclown, idiot, or broke dick fucked us even more.

there are a couple things that shouldn't be "rights". like the right to vote, bear children, and run a country. give an idiot the opportunity to make a decision, and he'll make the wrong one.

the blue collar people who work hard and make this country run are the ones that get fucked regardless of what they do. the middle class is the largest majority of citizens. united, we could make a difference. unfortunately we cannot, and therefore split votes between unworthy candidates. while the old, broke, and extremely wealthy can make movements because of their strength and common interests. they dont' have incentives to help the middle class because they are voting for different sides.
 
Everything wrong with this country can be traced back to the complacency of it's citizens.

Hitting the nail on the head.

Here we are complaining and pointing fingers. All of us should be looking in the mirror. When times were good, we were content to sit back. Now that the cat is out of the bag, we become insanely patriotic.


I am currently reading End the Fed by RP. My Placeholder is a pocket-sized US Constitution.
 
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