Look at all the stupid little new cars we're getting

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and that I won't fit into

we're all familiar with these current "cars"

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new tin cans:
Scion IQ....I'm not going to lie, I do like the widebody concept of this thing
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Ford Fiesta...I think we're just getting a 4 door version
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Mazda 2
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Nissan Puke....I mean "Juke"
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VW Polo..not bad, but whats the point with the Golf and GTI already available
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theres a hatch and a sedan of the Verve, not which we're getting (or maybe both..?)
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the X3 is tiny, this is more-tiny...BMW X1
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I do wish we could have gotten the Smart Roadster... it would have been a fun car.

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we only get the garbage cars here.

and then the ones we get, get such shitty fuel economy for the size.
europeans have small cars that can get over 50mpg, but all of those over here, they will probably get mid 30's.

save the money and buy an old honda. i used to be able to squeeze 45mpg from an old civic of mine.
 
we only get the garbage cars here.

and then the ones we get, get such shitty fuel economy for the size.
europeans have small cars that can get over 50mpg, but all of those over here, they will probably get mid 30's.

That's also because they get GOOD, higher octane and more expensive fuel that doesn't have twigs in it like our 87-91 octane.
 
That's also because they get GOOD, higher octane and more expensive fuel that doesn't have twigs in it like our 87-91 octane.

the units of measure are different... so it is not a direct apples to apples comparison
i have covered this several times in the past so im just going to quote myself here:

In Europe 98-octane gasoline is common and in Japan even 100-octane is readily available at the pumps. but this octane nomenclature is misleading to Americans, as foreign octane ratings are derived entirely differently from our own... So, like every other measurement system, it seems that everyone else uses a different scale than we do... but unlike most other instances, where we have had the good sense to create different units of measure, in this case we all use the same name...
Japan and Europe use a system called RON or Research Octane Number to determine the octane rating of their gasoline... while stateside we use a system called AKI or Anti-Knock Index to determine gasoline's octane rating... Interestingly, to further complicate things it would seem that our own AKI system is actually derived from the average of the RON system, and another more complicated system referred to as MON or Motor Octane Number... So, to recap our methodologies for measuring gasoline's octane rating are different, but share some common elements...
So, with the commonality of RON in mind a good rule of thumb is as follows, multiply the foreign RON Octane rating by 0.95 and you will have the US AKI equivalent.

( RON Octane Rating x 0.95 = AKI Octane Rating )
98 RON Octane x 0.95 = 93.1 AKI Octane (US measure)
100 RON Octane x 0.95 = 95 AKI Octane (US measure)

So, as you can see the 93 or 94 octane fuel we are all paying an arm and a leg for is actually quite comparable to the "higher" octane fuels found in Europe and Japan. The people whom have to worry about low octane rating are our friends out west in places like California that are subjected to substandard 91 octane.
91 AKI Octane (US measure) = 95.5 RON Octane

unless of course we are talking about diesel fuel in which case Europe does indeed get a better blend than we do here
 
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