Mexican president meets w/Obama

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Smoke + mirrors.

Obama stated that our nation is not bound by borders. This is ridiculous, of course it is.

Globalist agenda ftl.
 
i ask you fellow citizens....how the FUCK are we supposed to curb drug demand while we are considering making marijuana legal?

god damn politicians are fucking retarded.
 
while I dont agree with the law allowing cops to profile I do agree with sending any illigal immigrant with
charges back to mexico.
Sex offender (you could just them on the spot for all I care)
felonies
-stealing
-battery
etc


if you are a troublemaker GTFO! If you have a clean history not messing with anybody and just want to get your stuff straight then keep going. we'll figure out how to fix that later.

We need to stop the cartel's from not only entering, we need to kill them on site!
Same with American gangs as well. Our government has gotten too lenient on punishement and now they can't control it!

It doesnt matter weather it be drugs or not. A box with a tv, food and play time is not jail time
 
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I really enjoyed is comments on reinstating the AWB because there are soooo many weapons streaming in from the US that we are responsible for all the heads that get dumped out of trash cans in the middle of nightclubs.

The points he makes are so outrages I find it hard to believe that we had elected officials give him standing ovations. Between this and the guy from the State Dept. going to China and talking about how horrible we treat illegal aliens this is just bullshit. What in the hell is going on in DC???
 
i ask you fellow citizens....how the FUCK are we supposed to curb drug demand while we are considering making marijuana legal?

god damn politicians are fucking retarded.

Marijuana isnt a big issue. In the state of California if you are caught with less than a OZ of Marijuana its just a citation and or slap on the wrist (depending on cops).

Not a big deal! And if your stupid enough to smoke weed and not have your med card.....well your one stupid fuck! Its easy to get it and less than $100 in most areas.

So Marijuana isnt the issue, Crystal Meth, Cocaine, Heroin, Ecstasy, ect ect Is the issue.

But i do agree politicians are retarded.
 
just a quick over-view of the article. and my opinions to each quote.
let me know what you think. ;)


The Mexican leader also told lawmakers reluctant to take up the immigration issue this year that comprehensive immigration reform is crucial to securing the two countries' common border.

yeah, its called keep your fucking criminals and bullshit gangbangers on your side of the border, and we'll keep ours.
oh.... wait.... we already do.

Calderon, the first foreign national leader to address Congress this year, said he strongly disagrees with the Arizona law that requires police to question people about their [COLOR=#366388 ! important][COLOR=#366388 ! important]immigration [COLOR=#366388 ! important]status[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] if there's reason to suspect they are in the country illegally.

well, lets see, that falls under the catagory of none of your fucking business.
why the fuck is the mexican president having any fucking say so about how our country is ran? obviously if he was doing his job properly they wouldnt be wanting to leave that shit hole.

McCain issued a statement that it was "unfortunate and disappointing the president of Mexico chose to criticize the state of Arizona by weighing in on a U.S. domestic policy issue during a trip that was meant to reaffirm the unique relationship between our two countries."

which, roughly translated, actually means: deal with it you fucking pansy. this is none of your goddamn business, go back to mexico, and let america deal with america.
even if a lot of your citizens are here. its still none of your business.

And broaching another highly sensitive issue, Calderon urged Congress to restore a ban on assault weapons, saying easy access to high-powered weapons is contributing to drug-related violence along the border.

basically, i want your citizens and police to stop firing upon my criminals trying to enter your country illegally. theres no reason for them to have the chance to stop my drug cartels from carrying in our cocaine and other drugs. amongst other things. its too fair, and we should have the upper hand.

once again: none of his fucking business.

Calderon also took up the Arizona law in a meeting Wednesday with [COLOR=#366388 ! important][COLOR=#366388 ! important]President [COLOR=#366388 ! important]Barack [/COLOR][COLOR=#366388 ! important]Obama[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR], who referred to the law as a "misdirected expression of frustration."

obama translation: im a fucktard and im going to kneel to you and kiss your ass just as hard as the other leaders in the past. even though you are in control of a sub-par country that is owned and ran by cartel (for the most part) and probably have you on payroll. derp.

The Mexican leader said his country was doing its best, by promoting more jobs and opportunities at home, to reduce the flow of immigrants to the United States.

thats so much bullshit even russia is bothers by the smell of it. and russians can usually stand some odd fucking smells.

But he stressed the "need to fix a broken and inefficient system ... the time has come to reduce the causes of migration and to turn this phenomenon into a legal, ordered and secure flow of workers and visitors."

so his people can have free control to come and go as they please, and drug importation is 100 times easier than it is now.
please.

Calderon also got a standing ovation from Democrats when he asked the United States to stop the flow of assualt weapons and other arms across the border and reinstate the ban on many assault weapons that was enacted in 1994 but allowed to expire during the George W. Bush presidency.

once again, not your fucking business. gtfo.

He said there are more than 7,000 gun shops along the border where almost anyone can purchase weapons.

thats because this is america, and also, i guarantee that most of those are in texas, in which case, good fucking luck getting those guns out of their hands.

they'll fucking kill you.

then ride off into the sunset and not blink twice about it.

Texas Republican Sen. John Cornyn said it was inappropriate for Calderon to lecture Americans on state and local law. He defended the Arizona law and added: "moreover, the Second Amendment is not a subject open for diplomatic negotiation, with Mexico or any other nation."

i know nothing at all about this man, but he seems pretty smart.
and unlike most dems out there, at least he's standing up and saying whats right.

its none of his business, and he should be shot for even meddling in something that is none of his business.

But he added that "we cannot ignore the fact that the challenge to our security has roots on both sides of the border." He cited a statement from Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton that, At the end of the day, it is high demand for drugs in the United States and elsewhere that drives much of the illicit trade.

theres a nice bullshit view of things. jump on the obama wagon and place the blame on us.
how much would you wager that the president of mexico is in the pockets of the cartel and what the fuck ever other criminal empire in mexico. yeah, this sounds like an agenda to make it easier to import drugs.

drugs are in demand because they are highly addictive, and the readily available drugs make it very easy to get addicted.

you cant make an animal not want water. the animal will drink when thirsty and water is there.
but, if you take the water away from the animal, it damn sure wont drink.

He got smiles and applause from Republicans, as well as Democrats, when he said that in Mexico's efforts to recover from the recession no taxpayer money went to bail out banks.

yeah, the cartels probably paid that.
 
just a quick over-view of the article. and my opinions to each quote.
let me know what you think. ;)




yeah, its called keep your fucking criminals and bullshit gangbangers on your side of the border, and we'll keep ours.
oh.... wait.... we already do.



well, lets see, that falls under the catagory of none of your fucking business.
why the fuck is the mexican president having any fucking say so about how our country is ran? obviously if he was doing his job properly they wouldnt be wanting to leave that shit hole.



which, roughly translated, actually means: deal with it you fucking pansy. this is none of your goddamn business, go back to mexico, and let america deal with america.
even if a lot of your citizens are here. its still none of your business.



basically, i want your citizens and police to stop firing upon my criminals trying to enter your country illegally. theres no reason for them to have the chance to stop my drug cartels from carrying in our cocaine and other drugs. amongst other things. its too fair, and we should have the upper hand.

once again: none of his fucking business.



obama translation: im a fucktard and im going to kneel to you and kiss your ass just as hard as the other leaders in the past. even though you are in control of a sub-par country that is owned and ran by cartel (for the most part) and probably have you on payroll. derp.



thats so much bullshit even russia is bothers by the smell of it. and russians can usually stand some odd fucking smells.



so his people can have free control to come and go as they please, and drug importation is 100 times easier than it is now.
please.



once again, not your fucking business. gtfo.



thats because this is america, and also, i guarantee that most of those are in texas, in which case, good fucking luck getting those guns out of their hands.

they'll fucking kill you.

then ride off into the sunset and not blink twice about it.



i know nothing at all about this man, but he seems pretty smart.
and unlike most dems out there, at least he's standing up and saying whats right.

its none of his business, and he should be shot for even meddling in something that is none of his business.



theres a nice bullshit view of things. jump on the obama wagon and place the blame on us.
how much would you wager that the president of mexico is in the pockets of the cartel and what the fuck ever other criminal empire in mexico. yeah, this sounds like an agenda to make it easier to import drugs.

drugs are in demand because they are highly addictive, and the readily available drugs make it very easy to get addicted.

you cant make an animal not want water. the animal will drink when thirsty and water is there.
but, if you take the water away from the animal, it damn sure wont drink.



yeah, the cartels probably paid that.

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Let me get this clear, I dont care about the mexican president or the shit he has to say.

BUT!

Most people that come to this country arent criminals or gangbangers. That applies to all races. Most people are here for better paying jobs and a better way of life. Same reason why your ancestors came to this great country.

Sure some criminals come over here but hey some of our criminals head over there too, Cant just point the finger and say ITS YOUR FAULT!


Now about another president of any country critiquing our nation....well Thats gonna happen! Every other country in the world will tell you how to do it "the right way", America is a giant finger pointer that doesn't know how to shut the fuck up and keep on there own land(Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea, ECT ECT)

Next, I Seriously know that that stupid fucking law in Arizona is fucking bullshit. Why? Well because People like myself that are born and raised here are going to harassed because we are Mexican, WTF dose racial profiling mean? Isn't that Illegal? Two wrongs don't make a right!


And again, do you think every Mexican is part of the cartel? Seriously are you that ignorant? or are you just a sheep fucking hick that still lives in the 1700's?

Im not saying lets let everybody come in, but im saying shut out a single county and point the finger then say "America is fucked up because of you". Also don't bring up "they are taking our jobs" bullshit because most Mexicans are doing jobs that Americans don't want to or wont do.
 
Mexico dislikes Arizona's law because illegal immigrants send roughly $1 Billion back to Mexico annually.

Dems want open boarders and voting rights for felons so they can build a one party system.

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Next, I Seriously know that that stupid fucking law in Arizona is fucking bullshit. Why? Well because People like myself that are born and raised here are going to harassed because we are Mexican, WTF dose racial profiling mean? Isn't that Illegal? Two wrongs don't make a right!

It's sad that the media representation has made you think that is true.

They can not ask you about your immigration status unless you are being approached for some other reason.

Also, if you have a FUCKING DRIVER"S LICENSE and you speak English, you will be fine.

Do you really think they are going to start locking up everyone whose name ends in EZ or ES or CHO or NA or MA...cmon man.


So you know what Mexico's policy is toward illegal immigrants?

If caught taking up permanent residence without proper documentation or immigration, you will be jailed for TWO years the first time...then 10 years if you come back and do it again.

If you want to buy property there you have to document that you have FIVE TIMES the value of the property in liquid assets (cash) BEFORE you are allowed to purchase it. And why do you think that is, hmm?

It's either because they don't want economic drains moving into their country (novel concept)

OR

They are going to wait for you to move in then murder your whole family and liquidate your accounts based on the declarations that you provided, then take their shit back.

Immigration is a matter of legality. This isn't a fucking moral issue.

Do I think people should be deported? Absolutely not. I like my lettuce at the price it is.

However, if you break a law for personal gain, there are going to be risks inherent in your action. One of those risks is the risk of deportation...that you will be caught breaking a law and will pay the price.

We don't treat people who steal cars the same way do we? Ultimately, an illegal immigrant is stealing a way of life. That's fine.

It is NOT a RIGHT though.
 
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Let me get this clear, I dont care about the mexican president or the shit he has to say.

BUT!

Most people that come to this country arent criminals or gangbangers. That applies to all races. Most people are here for better paying jobs and a better way of life. Same reason why your ancestors came to this great country.

Sure some criminals come over here but hey some of our criminals head over there too, Cant just point the finger and say ITS YOUR FAULT!


Now about another president of any country critiquing our nation....well Thats gonna happen! Every other country in the world will tell you how to do it "the right way", America is a giant finger pointer that doesn't know how to shut the fuck up and keep on there own land(Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea, ECT ECT)

Next, I Seriously know that that stupid fucking law in Arizona is fucking bullshit. Why? Well because People like myself that are born and raised here are going to harassed because we are Mexican, WTF dose racial profiling mean? Isn't that Illegal? Two wrongs don't make a right!


And again, do you think every Mexican is part of the cartel? Seriously are you that ignorant? or are you just a sheep fucking hick that still lives in the 1700's?

Im not saying lets let everybody come in, but im saying shut out a single county and point the finger then say "America is fucked up because of you". Also don't bring up "they are taking our jobs" bullshit because most Mexicans are doing jobs that Americans don't want to or wont do.


well, no, i dont believe that all immigrants are gangbangers and junkies. i know quite a few of them. my little sister knows a lot of them. and of all the ones she knows, only a handful are worth having here. and she'll tell you that, and they are her friends.

the mexican president was here to talk mainly about drug running and drugs coming into america. which is why i related most of my comments to that matter.
he sounds like a person thats in anothers pocket and the ideas he is proposing to our government would make it 100 times easier for drugs and illegals to come into our country through their border.

he wants to take away border security, he wants to take away the weapons of people who live and own property near the boarder.
he wants an open door policy because as stated above millions of mexican workers come here, then send all of that money back to mexico.

i never said anything about making them all leave, and yes, i understand that they are willing to do the jobs americans wont do because they believe its above them.
but, i know plenty of illegals that speak damn good english, not perfect, but very willing to learn and try.
those are the ones wanting to work hard to make a good life for themselves HERE, not sending shit back to mexico.

but, i also know plenty of immigrants that dont speak a lick of fucking english, drive without a license, refuse to learn, refuse to care, live in a house with 50 others, put their children in very dangerous situations, and all of this to live at the cheapest to send more money back to mexico.

comparing our ancestors immigration to this country 300 years ago is a whole different issue than immigration is today.
yes, there was already people living here, but it was not a country.
yes, we fought them and took their land, but look through history, tell me one country that formed without fighting to take the land. you wont find one. thats the way of the world. thats how it has always happened and how it always will happen.
kingdoms start small, then grow huge through battling and bargaining.
thats how rome grew, thats how rome fell.
thats whats going to happen to the US.

the open immigration of other people into our country is a huge threat to national security, especially right now when we are at our weakest.

and how exactly is the arizona law that bad? requiring people to show proof that they are allowed to be here legally? i have to show proof that im allowed to drive legally when pulled over. i have to show proof that i have proper insurance when pulled over. i have to show proof that im a legal and natural born citizen to get a job anywhere in my state.
why should it be so hard for them to have the proper paperwork when they get pulled over or caught in some other act. its not, this law is only a big deal because they know the majority in that state is illegal. i think its a great idea. and i believe every state should jump on board.
if you arent a legal citizen but can prove that you are currently going through the motions to get legalized, then there shouldnt be an issue there, that person is trying, and i know from Taco's posts, that that is not an easy thing to do by any means.

and you can read through any of my posts in threads that pertain to americas involvement in other countries. i have the same view there as i had here.
its none of our fucking business to be over in the middle east doing anything. we can even fix our own shit and they are out trying to fix theirs. america needs to retract into america and work out homeland issues before we can even think about fixing others.

and the whole thing about our criminals heading there, lmao, their criminals have a much much easier time here than ours do there.
as stated above, if caught as an illegal there, you get two years. and everybody knows the reputation mexican prisons have.

they're wanting us to make it much easier for their drugs and whatever else to come into our country, but why should we? why is it our responsibility to let their people in? why dont they worry about fixing their shit so that people want to stay?
theyre going to have free healthcare by 2012? lmao, talk about a notion to just tickle the balls of the dems in just the right way.
just because they're healthcare is free, does not mean people will want it. they still have a shitload of shady ass doctors, with no proper certifications working in disgusting environments.




the whole thing is a joke.

this is just another way for obama to sell our nation bit by bit.
 
Most of the major issues have been addressed previously but I think it is worth repeating.

The only way that LE can ask for papers is if you are already in contact with LE for another reason. Say a broke tail light, loitering, speeding etc.

The amount of money being sent back to Mexico from migrant workers is a very great point to bring up. I live in a farming community and I know how that whole system works. And it isn't Mexicans doing jobs Americans don't want to do, its jobs American's don't want to do for such little money. I have worked in an onion packaging facility and its not even half as hard as picking but it still sucks for the cash that you get.

As for calling for the assault weapon ban, that is just plain ridiculous. When was the last time you saw a squad operated weapon at a gun show? How about a grenade? All of this shit is flowing up through the south via FARC and other organizations in South America. I have a suspicion that someone in our administration is enginering a rather clever ruse with their administration.

And remember kids; Never let a emergency go to waste!
 
And if your stupid enough to smoke weed and not have your med card.....well your one stupid fuck! Its easy to get it and less than $100 in most areas.

why are you a stupid fuck to smoke w/o the med card?? its nothing more than a fine if you get caught.. when the shit wasnt legal period i got caught w/ weed and a pipe on me while skateboarding.. what did they do to me?? nothing but take my shit and smoke it around the corner probably..

oh and the card is only $60 here if you have a referral.. :D
 
wow nice points from both parties.....

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If Juan McCain had been elected president, we would have had the immigration overhaul in advance of socialist health services. Juan McCain has been pushing immigration “reform” for a good chunk of his lengthy stint in office.

With the O-unit, its socialist healthcare first, border dissolution second.


Its not like America had much of a choice.
 
and how exactly is the arizona law that bad? requiring people to show proof that they are allowed to be here legally? i have to show proof that im allowed to drive legally when pulled over. i have to show proof that i have proper insurance when pulled over. i have to show proof that im a legal and natural born citizen to get a job anywhere in my state.
why should it be so hard for them to have the proper paperwork when they get pulled over or caught in some other act. its not, this law is only a big deal because they know the majority in that state is illegal. i think its a great idea. and i believe every state should jump on board.
if you arent a legal citizen but can prove that you are currently going through the motions to get legalized, then there shouldnt be an issue there.

Good post but this part especially^^^ was a point well made.

It does seem to be the opposite of what you were arguing before. In your previous post you said the Arizona immigration law was bad and now you are in favor of it....a little confused.
 
In the previous post he didn't even say anything about the AZ law, just about the Mexican president and our president.
 
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