2012 civic owned in consumer reports

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So is that score for all Civic models or just he 4-door LX that was mentioned? It looks like the 4-door LX got the score of 61.

I know the new Si motor is essentailly a torque monster TSX motor (k24a2) and the Si use to come with 6-speed 4.7FD and LSD so I figure it still does. The inside of the Si's are nice too.
 
I haven't had any problems with my 07 aside from the interior gradually falling apart.

It'll be paid off in November anyway.
 
saw this earlier on yahoo

Consumer Reports says redesigned Honda Civic scores too low to be recommended - Yahoo! Autos

We have seen a number of redesigned models do worse in our overall road-test score than the ones they replaced. But the 2012 Honda Civic sets a new mark. That highly anticipated redesign dropped a whopping 17 points— from a very good 78 to a mediocre 61. The Civic was once one of our highest-rated small sedans and was our Top Pick in that category as recently as 2007, but it now scores too low to be recommended.
Compared with its predecessor, the 2012 Civic is less agile and has lower interior quality. It also suffers from a choppy ride, long stopping distances, and pronounced road noise. On the positive side the Civic provides decent rear-seat room, and it achieved 30 mpg overall, which gives it the second-best fuel economy in its class—behind only the Toyota Corolla's 32 mpg. We are also testing the Civic Hybrid and will report on it next month.


While other models, including the class-leading Hyundai Elantra, have gotten better after being redesigned, the Civic now ranks near the bottom of its category. It's ahead of only the Volkswagen Jetta, which plunged 16 points after its own recent redesign.

The drivetrain is the Civic's high point. The 140-hp, 1.8-liter four-cylinder engine and five-speed automatic transmission return an impressive 30 mpg overall on regular fuel and 47 mpg on the highway. Acceleration is adequate, and the transmission shifts quickly and smoothly. Some complained that the transmission downshifts too eagerly when descending hills. A five-speed manual is available.

Cost-cutting is apparent throughout the Civic's interior, from the cheap headliner and ubiquitous hard plastics to the unlined trunk lid.

New from Ford and Kia

For this issue, we also tested sedan and hatchback versions of the redesigned-for-2012 Ford Focus and the hatchback version of the Kia Forte (both available to subscribers).

We found the Focus to be fun to drive and more polished than its predecessor, with the type of agile handling, supple ride, and solid feel that we'd expect from a compact sports sedan. Both versions also got a commendable 28 mpg overall. But a snug rear seat, complicated controls, and annoying behavior by the transmission took a toll on their overall scores. The more upscale and versatile SEL hatchback earned a very good 74, positioning it just below the class-leading Volkswagen Golf, Mazda3, and Subaru Impreza Outback Sport. The lower-trim SE sedan scored 68, which is slightly better than its predecessor's 65 and about the same as the Chevrolet Cruze.

The 5-Door hatchback is Kia's latest addition to the Forte line, which also includes the four-door sedan and the sportier two-door Koup. The well-equipped, relatively roomy hatchback offers a lot for the money. But its noise isolation, ride, and interior quality are middling, relegating it to a mid-pack score of 71, which is similar to the Toyota Matrix.

The as-tested prices of this month's group range from $19,340 for the Forte EX 5-Door to $22,185 for the Ford Focus SEL hatchback. None of the cars from this group is recommended. Although they scored well enough, the Focus models and the Forte hatchback are too new for us to have reliability data. And while we expect the redesigned Civic to provide better-than-average reliability, it didn't score highly enough in our tests to be recommended.
 
New civic is meh. I had a terrible feeling about it the first time I laid eyed on one 2 years ago. My main complain: exterior styling sucks ass, and the interior - while not bad, offers no improvement. I hate the 2 tier dash. The competition almost always copies Honda. Notice nobody is doing the 2 tier dash. Get a hint! Drivetrain is 95% carryover on regular models. It offers no DI or 6 speed auto's like the competition. (funny though that real world MPG is still the best).

The main problem is that so many competitors are buying themselves into the market. The new Foci and Elantra are badass little cars - no doubt better than the new Civic in terms of feature content, styling, and dash material quality. I can guarantee you that the profit margins are zero to in the red. Honda did the same approach in the late 80's, and early 90's during their big push into the US market. Something like that is only sustainable for so long.
 
Consumer Reports is usually the bible when it comes to automotive reviewing. However, I didn't know until recently that all the ratings are done by the same 2 dudes each and every time. I don't think the civic is better than the Elantra, however I feel it should have been above some of the others.

One more note. The re-designed Jetta is the only car to score worse than the Civic. Funny thing is, VW is selling 2-3x more compared to the old model:confused:
 
The New Jettas are dirt cheap compared to what they use to be sold for so it makes sense that they were reviewed poorly.
 
The new civic is fucking hideous. Hands down.
 
I haven't had any problems with my 07 aside from the interior gradually falling apart.

It'll be paid off in November anyway.
The sun visors are covered under warranty when they break. My fiance almost ripped me a new one for breaking hers until the dealership told us it was a free replacement. The only problems with her 2008 other than the sunvisor have been caused by idiot mechanics at Schaller Honda.

The new Civic is ugly, I would not buy one.
 
The sun visors are covered under warranty when they break. My fiance almost ripped me a new one for breaking hers until the dealership told us it was a free replacement. The only problems with her 2008 other than the sunvisor have been caused by idiot mechanics at Schaller Honda.

The new Civic is ugly, I would not buy one.

I got a class action suit notice about the sun visors. Ironically mine have never had a problem - but my driver's side door handle has split in half and constantly falls off.
 
I have a hard damn time calling it a next gen vehicle. They fucked with the tail lights a bit, and it's a new generation? Fuck that.
 
New civic is meh. I had a terrible feeling about it the first time I laid eyed on one 2 years ago. My main complain: exterior styling sucks ass, and the interior - while not bad, offers no improvement. I hate the 2 tier dash. The competition almost always copies Honda. Notice nobody is doing the 2 tier dash. Get a hint! Drivetrain is 95% carryover on regular models. It offers no DI or 6 speed auto's like the competition. (funny though that real world MPG is still the best).

The main problem is that so many competitors are buying themselves into the market. The new Foci and Elantra are badass little cars - no doubt better than the new Civic in terms of feature content, styling, and dash material quality. I can guarantee you that the profit margins are zero to in the red. Honda did the same approach in the late 80's, and early 90's during their big push into the US market. Something like that is only sustainable for so long.

I sell Honda/Toyota/Hyundai on-line. I can agree with you on all points. I was doing this when the 06 came out. Was such a great car compared to the 01-05s. In terms of popularity, holy shit. I feel like people lined up around the block for the 06+ for like three years. The Elantra is that way now. I get so many requests for them and we can't keep them on the lot for a day. In terms of reliability I highly doubt they make it in the long run but for the price you do get a lot of amenities. The buyers in the Hyundai market are like, or are, old GM/Chrysler customers. Cheap. Honda really needed a home run again with this new Civic. It's ugly and boring. Still not nearly as bad as a Corolla. But as long as there are people who don't really care about cars, who like nothing but value, Toyotas will stay on top. New Odyssey is awesome inside.. wish it looked like a Sienna SE on the outside :x The CR-V is the best thing we have in right now I fell like. People love the shit out of them in this area. They have pretty much taken over the small SUV category in western PA. I'm excited for the new model CR-V. Much better looking than the current model. With just the looks I bet this is popular all over again if it stays like the pics I have seen. Can you say that that car will really come on 20"s from factory? Anyway, Honda better figure it out on the next run of Civics if it isn't too late.
 
I haven't had any problems with my 07 aside from the interior gradually falling apart.

It'll be paid off in November anyway.

That was a previous gen model though. The 2012 is new...but just barely from the looks of it. Sounds like they mostly just took the previous gen and made it shittier, lol...
 
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