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Found this article on wikipedia. Currently I live about 10 minutes from fairchild afb.

I found this interesting because the military is so quick to shift blame AWAY from pilots. still an interesting read.

1994 Fairchild Air Force Base B-52 crash - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

USAF personnel testified that Holland had developed a reputation as an "aggressive" pilot who often broke flight safety and other rules. The rule breaking included flying below minimum clearance altitudes and exceeding bank angle limitations and climb rates. He also regularly and illegally parked his car in a "no parking" zone near the base headquarters building without anyone saying anything to him about it
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get_nick said:
I found this interesting because the military is so quick to shift blame AWAY from pilots. still an interesting read.
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That's news to me. I've seen them time and time and time and time again blame it on the pilots. It's easier to say the pilot F-ed up, and our 30+ year old jets are still in perfect condition.

It's easier to ground a single pilot then it is to pull your whole fleet of jets out of the sky.
 
I saw a presentation on this, this guy was such an idiot that his flight crew wouldn't fly with thim, his squadron commander stood in, and died :-(
 
When flying something that large, you'd think one would learn to be careful. I'm no expert but banking a plane that size, even at the initial speed of 160 knots, would be frightening to me.
 
jeffie7 said:
That's news to me. I've seen them time and time and time and time again blame it on the pilots. It's easier to say the pilot F-ed up, and our 30+ year old jets are still in perfect condition.

It's easier to ground a single pilot then it is to pull your whole fleet of jets out of the sky.
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it might have been the units i was with then. it was always something like, "a tire blew" or "the brakes over heated and failed" never "the pilot tried to land 100 mph too fast"
 
I don't know about the USAF, but I know a little about the USMC Air Wing. Any time there's a crash (*especially* if there's a fatality) there's a huge investigation. They really want to know what actually caused the problem because replacing aircraft and pilots is *expensive*.

It's actually the bottom line on the budget that keeps them honest.

As a mechanic, I can't tell you what it's like to hear that one of your own aircraft went down.
 

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I don't know about the USAF, but I know a little about the USMC Air Wing. Any time there's a crash (*especially* if there's a fatality) there's a huge investigation. They really want to know what actually caused the problem because replacing aircraft and pilots is *expensive*.

It's actually the bottom line on the budget that keeps them honest.

As a mechanic, I can't tell you what it's like to hear that one of your own aircraft went down.
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You'ed love this thread.... ;)

https://hondaswap.com/members-lounge/official-aircraft-post-82926/


And as a mechanic...I can tell you what it's like to have your own aircraft you worked on go down is like. It will turn you into a full blown alcoholic after they find that it's nothing related to the work you did to the aircraft. You will be sweating bullets like a death roll inmate that inocent right before he's off'ed.... when you hear its your aircraft. Your mind will flash every movement for the last 3 months that you did around that aircraft while you worked on it, and will scramble it up so bad that you can't think of anything else. One thing thats fucked up is right before it leaves your presence....you will recall everything that your eyes watched as it left...and your brain will pick thru those images and replay it slow and fast as if it was a DVD player on steriods...not focusing on anything that was not possible to go wrong.

I had an aircraft, with 19 passengers and a pilot call in inflight emergancy, and the problem was the nose landing gear wouldn't fully extend on a KingAir B100. When I found out, he was still circleing the airport to burn off gas....and it was a mad dash from the phone to radio's, trying to rember anything that was done, what the manufactures recomends, and how to bring the plane down safely. I did the last inspection on the landing gear on that aircraft two days before the incident....I didn't remember anything out of place, except we had to re-rig the tension on the extension chain. I did the job correctly, but I also had a helper that I remembered to ask him to put a cotter pin in a bolt after the rig was done. The pin wasn't there...but that wasn't the problem...it was a freak problem that happened in the ring\gear actuator, slop, age, and a build-up of crud seized the actuator. That problem caused the 2 engines to be replaced, two props, and a little bit of fiberglass work to be done to the belly pod that was installed a few weeks earlier. if that pod was not there, the plane would have been junk.
 
Like when Turbomirage left the garage ... and flipped the fucking car.

Yeah, that kind of loss of sleep.
 
Celerity said:
Like when Turbomirage left the garage ... and flipped the fucking car.

Yeah, that kind of loss of sleep.
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i flipped the civic due to being an idiot. it wasnt mechanic error.
 
i can agree with airjockie. i worked flight controls, fuel, gps, and countermeasures systems. anything that goes wrong, you immediately start asking yourself what you worked on and if you did it right. we have thorough log books so they can track it down pretty well to who did what. it still makes you a nervous wreck though waiting to get cleared.
 
Kinda off topic but you live here in spokane Nick?
 
Airjockie said:
You will be sweating bullets like a death roll inmate that inocent right before he's off'ed.... when you hear its your aircraft. Your mind will flash every movement for the last 3 months that you did around that aircraft while you worked on it, and will scramble it up so bad that you can't think of anything else.
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Yeah, pretty much just like that.
On top of that, I know all the pilots and aircrew personally.

This is why I now have a desk job.
 
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