mecanikfreak
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Hey guys i was wondering if you could give me advices on wich one should i boost a d16 or a b18b.
Thx
(money doesnt mater)
Thx
(money doesnt mater)
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i got some advice for ya, read the forums and do some research.
there have been 2349230597283 posts about these engines already.
You can get the same power from a D16 for a very similar cost. I would ask that if you're going to offer an opinion, please have an actual reason for it. Not just, "I never really liked them".
First, I didn't say you don't know anything. I asked for a reason for the opinion beyond the usual B-Series bandwagon crap. Second, a proven engine build isn't an opinion it's a fact. I don't think it's possible, I know it is.
D16Z6 = $200
Suzuki Vitara pistons = $200
TunerToys rods = $250
Block guard = $110
Homemade turbo kit = $1000
Tuning = $300-500
Machine work = $300
Now you're good to 400whp for a little more than your buddy spent on his B18...assuming that $2k includes buying and swapping the engine. If you want 250whp or less, subtract everything but the turbo kit and tuning. ARP head studs and a new head gasket should be a given, regardless.
Those are facts. "I don't like it" and "it's a better engine but I don't know why" are opinions. Reality is that there's no "better" engine. That's why I asked him what his goals and budget are. Different people have different goals that would make a B-Series a better choice than a D-Series and vice versa. Some people need to say they have a B-Series because they don't understand how to make power with a D, some people would rather have the 77mm stroke of the B16 for rev'ing, some would rather have the 84mm bore of the B20, some build D16s as the anti-B-Series-bandwagon, and some would rather just spend the money for a B-Series swap on building a D. People are different.
Personally, I weighed my options between the B18B block I still have (sold the head long ago) and building a D16Z6. At the end of the day I only wanted a turbocharged 200whp. Including the price of buying the engine, I spent about $1500 building my Z6 and it put down stock B16 power. On top of that, I have fresh rings, a fresh hone, new gaskets, seals, and bearings, and a complete engine tune-up. In my opinion, that was my best option.
I'm almost positive the k20 came up because Blanco said there is no such thing as a better motor. The motors in general are not a toss up. The builds might be. But most people will agree with me that the Ls is a better motor to boost. And just so you know when you say "you're essays are getting on my nerves" the correct grammer is "your." Is it safe to say that an N/A build between the two motors is clear? The Ls will make better numbers. Why not the same in the FI world. That's all I want to know.you're essays are getting on my nerves.. and why are you even bringing up k-series.. the OP asked about a d16 or b18b... either way, you can come out with similar numbers so to me its a toss-up..
I'm almost positive the k20 came up because Blanco said there is no such thing as a better motor. The motors in general are not a toss up. The builds might be. But most people will agree with me that the Ls is a better motor to boost. And just so you know when you say "you're essays are getting on my nerves" the correct grammer is "your." Is it safe to say that an N/A build between the two motors is clear? The Ls will make better numbers. Why not the same in the FI world. That's all I want to know.