another school shooting

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OMG!!!!1!! n0wai!!!!!!
how could this happen in a "gun free school zone"
must be a fake story
is that shit from TheOnion



















......over and over and over again until people finally realize and accept that it is not only their right but also their responsibility to protect themselves, because regardless of what they currently think/feel/believe no one else is obligated legally or otherwise to do it for them
 
When I first saw the story I didn't think it was a student shooting. UDel is in a very shitty area. The townies there are all fucking nuts. But who knows, that shit is crazy. My sister graduated there in 06.
 
A big +1 to E's post, but what the fuck is this? They just throw that sentence in at random?


A female student is in a serious condition and a male student is in a stable condition after the shooting at 0054 (0454 GMT), the university said.
The school has been locked down, with students and staff on campus told to remain inside buildings and classes cancelled for the day.
In April Seung-hui Cho killed 32 people in a shooting rampage at Virginia Tech.


Police said they hoped to gain more information on the male suspect when the victims - shot at the school's Memorial Hall - were able to speak.
"We haven't had a chance to talk to them yet, and that's probably a big reason why the suspect is still at large," Delaware State University spokesman Carlos Holmes told local television. Students and staff who were not on the Dover campus at the time of the shooting have been told to stay away. The university would still provide essential services to campus residents during the lock-down, it said.
 
No, but if the majority of responsible citizens had them, these instances would be greatly reduced.

Recked i know you're just tryin to stir shit up, so :p
 
bulletproof backpacks

It's time for parents to make the annual trek to get back to school items, which usually includes jeans, jerseys and a few notebooks. NewsCenter 5's Pam Cross reported Thursday that a couple of North Shore men want parents to consider something else -- a bulletproof backpack."They have them with them on the floor, on their laps, on the bus. They always have a backpack," said Joe Curran, of My Child's Pack.It started with the Columbine shooting in 1999. Curran and Mike Pelonzi said that they watched and worried for their own children. They had the idea to hide bulletproof material inside a backpack. They call it defensive action. "If the kid has a backpack next to them, or under the desk, they can pick it up, the straps act as a handle and it becomes a shield," Curran said. It's much lighter than a 15-pound police vest. After three years of experimenting, the backpacks that were tested by an outside lab ranked threat level two. It stops an assortment of bullets, including 9-millimeter hollow point bullets. The fathers researched school shootings from 1900 to this year. They will sell for $175, but do the special book bags play upon paranoia when most schools are called safe?"I want to keep my kid safe. I don't care what you do -- if you want to fight the good fight or fix the world's hurts, I can't help you, but my kids are going to be safe because of these backpacks," Curran said.
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Ya, I saw the bulletproof backpacks on the news. If you need to send your kid to school with one of those, you need to move somewhere else.
 
I'm sure that the people living in the areas where one would be demed nessacary couldn't afford one.

It's a sad state of affairs in this country. People who want to carry arms to protect themselves are villianised. The police or government have no leagel obligation to protecte the individual, just the populace as a whole. Yet the same govt wants to make it nearly impossible to get the right to carry a gun to protect yourself. Guess what they would like us to do is tuck it between our legs and "put the fuckin lotion in the basket"
 
My old highschool was just shut down today because of a student who had made death threats. He came into school when he was suspended and not the school is on lockdown and he's in police custody.

I would like the beat the shit out of his little prick ass and teach him a lesson, his misfit little sister used to send obnoxious text messages and heckle the hell out of my little cousin as well.

Also for the record, as Klyph and E know, guns save the world!
 
Also for the record, as Klyph and E know, guns save the world!

no not quite


Guns don't save the world but at some point you do have to fight fire with fire. And sometimes quite literally. Criminals and idiots won't be anywhere near as likely to attack when there's a good chance that there'll be several trained guns on them in seconds.

The biggest problem with guns in American is the lack of real education. Scare tactics don't work but educating the public as a whole does. Demand a higher standard of education and application. Anyone who can pass a safety/training course and a basic proficiency test should be able to not only own a weapon but also carry it with them. "An armed society is a polite society" because nobody wants to get shot or stabbed, not even hardcore criminals.

At the end of the day, a gun is no more deadly than a brick without the hand of a human to wield it.

exactly
this is one of those rare occurrences where i fully agree with blanco

criminals are far less likely to attempt violent crimes against an armed populous that is capable of fighting back
 
take for instance the recent home invasion / tripple murder in Cheshire CT (a few towns away from me)
two criminals broke into a home around 3am armed with a PELLET GUN and held the family hostage for hours
durring this time they beat father/husband just about to death and tied him up in the basement
the two daughters were beaten, tied to their beds and raped repeatedly through the night
the mother/wife was escorted to the bank by one of the criminals in the morning when the banks opened... she was forced to withdraw $15,000.00 (yes less than the price of a civic)
she was able to alert the teller in the bank that her family was being held hostage
the teller at the bank notified the police
the criminal had time to stop at a gas station and fill a container with gas, drive back to the house, strangle the mother/wife, light the 2 daughters on fire while still tied to their beds, light the rest of the house on fire, and were already driving away from the house when the cops finally showed up. the husband/father was the only survivor and is still in the hospital

now had either of the adults in that home owned and been trained to properly defend themselves with a firearm... the situation would have likely been much different
for instance: 3:00am - 2 criminals break into the house... 3:03am - 911 is alerted that 2 intruders have been shot... 3:15 - police show up... family is shaken but unharmed
 
And go a few steps farther. Put thorny bushes under windows and have a dog that will at least bark at strange sounds. My kids will be guarded by schutzhund trained ADRK Rottweilers. If the dogs don't get you, the Mossberg will. But that's going a little off topic.
all part of preparation, situational awareness, and taking care of you and yours

:thumbsup:
 
Guns don't save the world but at some point you do have to fight fire with fire. And sometimes quite literally. Criminals and idiots won't be anywhere near as likely to attack when there's a good chance that there'll be several trained guns on them in seconds.

The biggest problem with guns in American is the lack of real education. Scare tactics don't work but educating the public as a whole does. Demand a higher standard of education and application. Anyone who can pass a safety/training course and a basic proficiency test should be able to not only own a weapon but also carry it with them. "An armed society is a polite society" because nobody wants to get shot or stabbed, not even hardcore criminals.

At the end of the day, a gun is no more deadly than a brick without the hand of a human to wield it.

And if all good, responsible people owned guns we would be in a good situation.

Except I don't shit $100 bills. All these hypothetical you guys throw out there are pretty humorous.
Would've, could've, should've.

If some people weren't low life, scum sucking, shitbag, fuck twats, then the world wouldn't be plagued, but thats simply not the case.
 
The biggest problem with guns in America....

IS that there is guns in America.....


"An armed society is a polite society"

How so? Japan is a gun free country, and if someone wants to kill you then they will find another method of doing it. Gun's are the quick way to scare and force normal people into fear so they give up money or to kill at a long range.

Take away guns all together...except for cops and military...and there will be less criminals with guns...and if someone wants to kill someone...then they have to resort back to knives's and swords.

At the end of the day, a gun is no more deadly than a brick without the hand of a human to wield it.

Exactly...but if it wasn't there...then why need it?

I'd rather live in Japan because there is no guns, but due to other problems and efforts, I came back here. Given the chance...I'd be back there tomorrow. Why, Every one has honor, politeness, crime is Dependant on the white collar peeps (most crimes are done in corporate levels), and the low life's have respect towards others...and well...it's almost an utopia. Street thugs have better things to do than to do small time heist's and rape.... and since prostitution is available everywhere...the rape crimes are nearly non-existent. They would rather sit in front of a pachinko machine gambling instead of physically going out and pointing a gun at someone telling them to take their wallet. And theft is still there, but if you don't flaunt nice stuff, and keep shit secured in your possession...then it won't disappear.

And this coming from a guy who's dad is an AVID GUN COLLECTOR!!!

I traveled, saw the other side of life, and I understand why guns are just dumb. If you need a gun to protect yourself in your area...then just move. Also, normal people can run from people with knives and swords...but they can't outrun a gun. If you need a gun for self defense....then you are to lazy to use that time learning a proper self defense art like karate or judo.
 
People can keep the guns they have...but just ban bullets...and have guns turn into collectors' items.


pretty sad that America has a pack of 200 bullets for sale that is cheaper than a pack of 20 cigg's....
 
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