How many people actually have camber kits
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dont have one
dont need one
my car is lowered a reasonable amount and still has good suspension geometry
i also corner hard enough to use the negative camber to my advantage
my tires wear pretty evenly
amazing what happens when you do shit the right way
dont need one
my car is lowered a reasonable amount and still has good suspension geometry
i also corner hard enough to use the negative camber to my advantage
my tires wear pretty evenly
amazing what happens when you do shit the right way
How much did you drop your car? I want to drop my CRX maybe 1"
if you are dropping 1" you definitely do not need a camber kit
i dont know how much i dropped it vs stock i didnt measure before hand
i lowered the car to 4.5" ground to chassis in the front and 5" in the rear (might be 5.5" and 6" it was set a while ago
... either way your car will be different)
it gave me good suspension geometry, good ground clearance, 1/2" of forward rake, camber is reasonable and usable
as far as looks go the car has about 2 fingers of wheel gap
i was setting the car up to be used for track days so it was pretty much function over form
it just so happens that i really like the look of cars set up for road course
i dont know how much i dropped it vs stock i didnt measure before hand
i lowered the car to 4.5" ground to chassis in the front and 5" in the rear (might be 5.5" and 6" it was set a while ago
... either way your car will be different)it gave me good suspension geometry, good ground clearance, 1/2" of forward rake, camber is reasonable and usable
as far as looks go the car has about 2 fingers of wheel gap
i was setting the car up to be used for track days so it was pretty much function over form
it just so happens that i really like the look of cars set up for road course
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I've had an Ingalls camber kit and when my alignment was perfect (on paper), I really didn't notice much... And the ride didn't feel all that great... My latest set up included Koni Yellows with Tanabe GF210 Lowering Springs. It was about a 2" drop and I got an alignment. At the time, I got a life alignment through Firestone for only $130, but they raised the prices since then and my car with that setup got stolen... When they aligned the vehicle, the camber was off 1.5 degrees on both sides and the toe was justed to 0 all around. The ride was perfect... Even better than my other vehicles with perfect alignment and Ingalls camber kits. Just my $.02 on the subject
Citizen_Insane
Senior Member
Camber doesn't burn up tires, having your toe incorrectly set does. When you have a lot of negative camber and bad toe settings, you burn up the insides of your tires. The only reason I can see to buy a camber kit would be to get more negative camber. For AutoX, a lot of the FWD guys have found that about -3 degrees front and -0.5 degrees rear is pretty optimal with about 1/16-1/32 toe out in the front. Maybe not a great setup for the street, but it will make you corner like a mofo.
seanjuan
Senior Member
Citizen is totally correct.
My car is lowered on eibach pro-kits, somewhere between 1.5" and 2" lower than stock and I recently added a set of the skunk2 upper control arms and got my car aligned to that I have -3.2 degrees of negative camber on the front wheels. Lowering or adjusting camber will throw off your toe settings so you need to have the toe realigned at the same time.
I'm running an eigth of an inch toe out front and rear.
My car was absolutely transformed by doing this and makes it very competative in the local auto-x.
I had the camber and toe adjusted (with me sitting in the car) by Jeff the Alignment Guy in Bloomington MN. If you are in the area, he is the best. He has a computerized system that is spot on.
Unless you are racing I don't think it is worth it or necessary to mess with camber. Get your car professionally aligned by someone you trust (not by a chain store) and you should be fine. But if you realy want to wake up your cars handling then dial in about -3 degrees on the front and you will be amazed at the difference it makes in how your car steers and holds the road during cornering
My car is lowered on eibach pro-kits, somewhere between 1.5" and 2" lower than stock and I recently added a set of the skunk2 upper control arms and got my car aligned to that I have -3.2 degrees of negative camber on the front wheels. Lowering or adjusting camber will throw off your toe settings so you need to have the toe realigned at the same time.
I'm running an eigth of an inch toe out front and rear.
My car was absolutely transformed by doing this and makes it very competative in the local auto-x.
I had the camber and toe adjusted (with me sitting in the car) by Jeff the Alignment Guy in Bloomington MN. If you are in the area, he is the best. He has a computerized system that is spot on.
Unless you are racing I don't think it is worth it or necessary to mess with camber. Get your car professionally aligned by someone you trust (not by a chain store) and you should be fine. But if you realy want to wake up your cars handling then dial in about -3 degrees on the front and you will be amazed at the difference it makes in how your car steers and holds the road during cornering
Citizen_Insane
Senior Member
seanjuan, you're a MAC AutoXer too?! Didn't know there was anyone from MAC on hondaswap. Jeff is the shit. If anyone in the Twin Cities is looking for a great alignment man, Jeff's the guy to go to.
humblegumbo
1595cc's of Mad Fury
This is interesting. There was a camber kit on the car when I got it & I never thought about it because she handled great. After replacing some d-side suspesnion components, I haven't been able to get her back in line. The other day I finally went to a shop & paid for a real alignment. Nice dude named Bob let me hang out while he worked his magic.
The total toe in front was -3/8in & -1/8 in back. The tires were just getting chewed. Now that's zeroed out, & camber's -0.55°...but she's still being wierd, especially through bumpy turns. </threadjack>
Sorry. Car sits barely 4in off ground, & I have camber kit installed
The total toe in front was -3/8in & -1/8 in back. The tires were just getting chewed. Now that's zeroed out, & camber's -0.55°...but she's still being wierd, especially through bumpy turns. </threadjack>
Sorry. Car sits barely 4in off ground, & I have camber kit installed
4" chassis to ground???
your suspension geometry is probably fucked up... if your geometry isnt right it doesnt matter what adjustments you can or do make, its always going to ride like shit
humblegumbo
1595cc's of Mad Fury
Yeah the geometry's probably all kinds of whacked, but everything seemed fine until I swapped out the d-side axle.
Today I added about a degree of camber to the front & took her for a good thrashing on a back road. I could definately feel the difference in how the car handled, much stickier now. This other issue is still there, though. The road surface is pretty much patchwork. If I hit, say, a pothole w/ the throttle open it feels like the whole car is going to come apart. It's like hitting that same pothole 5 to 7 times in a row real fast...and if there really ~are~ 5 to 7 potholes in a row then you'd better freakin' hang on to something!
Oh, & I'm not sure on chassis to ground. There's at least 4in under the oil pan.
So, anyway, the nice thing about having the camber kit is that I can make adjustments very quickly w/ just a jack & 22mm wrench.
Today I added about a degree of camber to the front & took her for a good thrashing on a back road. I could definately feel the difference in how the car handled, much stickier now. This other issue is still there, though. The road surface is pretty much patchwork. If I hit, say, a pothole w/ the throttle open it feels like the whole car is going to come apart. It's like hitting that same pothole 5 to 7 times in a row real fast...and if there really ~are~ 5 to 7 potholes in a row then you'd better freakin' hang on to something!
Oh, & I'm not sure on chassis to ground. There's at least 4in under the oil pan.
So, anyway, the nice thing about having the camber kit is that I can make adjustments very quickly w/ just a jack & 22mm wrench.
