comcast can't limit internet

[nootrac22]

Excite News - Bill Bars Web Traffic Discrimination
lets hope the bill passes.


inshort it will stop isp from limiting bandwidth to users, who use certain websites

 

[nootrac22]

Excite News - Comcast Defends Internet Practices


related article about how comcast limits useage

 

[reckedracing]

a question for discussion

comcast claims its sending the interruption packets to help ease congestion on crowded cable connections
whats the legailty/morality to perhaps putting a "speed limit" on those particular transfers during times of congestion? as opposed to terminating the connections?

 

[nootrac22]

I believe that it's the companies responsibility to not sell more bandwidth then they can support.

 

[reckedracing]

but your infrastructure would have to be enormous to support the kind of traffic that would be generated if every computer in america were a fulltime movie downloader/uploader

you can't really assume worst case scenerio when most PC users will never pull massive amounts of traffic

 

[Briansol]

i use a ton of b/w (between myself and E) and i've never seen a speed cap.

 

[E_SolSi]

 

[Cashizslick]

i use a ton of b/w (between myself and E) and i've never seen a speed cap.

Have you looked?

 

[reckedracing]

looked where?
you'd notice it on your DL's

 

[Cashizslick]

looked where?
you'd notice it on your DL's

Lol i know. Just messing with B.

I have never noticed a cap either . . not that i use a lot of bw but still.

 

[awptickes]

Here in germany they do something similar. They allow the speed to peak at your max speed (1.7mB/s in my case) at the beginning of the download, then throttle it down after about 250KB to half your rated speed (.8mB/s in my case) and then finally fluctuate it every couple meg, allow it to peak at 3/4 of your full speed.

This is so predictable that I can guess where and when it's going to change. The worst effected apps are distributed server applications, like many p2p programs. I have a feeling that's what it's designed for. They also have a system in place that will block any port that has "too much" traffic going to or from it. We have no recourse, because one company still owns all of the infrastructure.

 

[reckedracing]

I was DL'ing something via azureus lastnight and noticed something funny

i'm on a cable line and have the norton system works monitoring internet speed
normal is a ping time of 80-90 ms
when i was running the download i was getting down of less than 20 kbs and up less than 40 kbs and my internet speed dropped to almost nothing

navigating websites turned downright painful
any ideas?
any chance my internal network could be set to slow me down? or you think its outside?
i am not aware of any monitoring equipment or anything else in my office that would limit me but that doesn't mean much

my DL was finished this morning and as soon as i turned off azureus my traffic went back to normal
i tried turning azureus on and off a few times last night and saw the same results

 

[nootrac22]

the man is capping you

 

[FObangah]

Comcast is dirt ball anyhow. I don't know jack about band width, ping, and all that jazz... but I know when someone's screwin' me. I can't get FIOS because they havn't dropped the fiber optics on this side of town yet, and I can't have sat. in my apartment complex ( plus I don't like DISH500 or DishNet ). So if I want internet thats faster than city transit, I have to go Comcast, " with power boost"... what ever. Same for TV. I hate'em, they're expensive for no reason, have poor customer service, the on demand only works half the time. Thats allright though, I get my moneys' worth. I get all the movie/HD channels for free. Suck on that you COMCAST Basterds!!

Sorry for thread jacking, figured I would vent.

It sucks that they can cap something that is basicly a big community, I'm glad all the smarty-pants people out there are raising hell about it, 'cause I don't understand enough about it to even try to help.

 

[reikoshea]

Here in germany they do something similar. They allow the speed to peak at your max speed (1.7mB/s in my case) at the beginning of the download, then throttle it down after about 250KB to half your rated speed (.8mB/s in my case) and then finally fluctuate it every couple meg, allow it to peak at 3/4 of your full speed.

This is so predictable that I can guess where and when it's going to change. The worst effected apps are distributed server applications, like many p2p programs. I have a feeling that's what it's designed for. They also have a system in place that will block any port that has "too much" traffic going to or from it. We have no recourse, because one company still owns all of the infrastructure.

Well see, that is completely legal...Read your contract. I can guarantee it says "Up to 1.5M/b" (or whatever your cap is).

Most web traffic is done downloading in the first 5 seconds, so the average user wont care. It sucks, but thats perfectly legal. Killing a persons session without cause and without documentation is illegal...even if its to preserve your infrastructure.

As someone already said, they have to be able to supply what they sell, and in the case of all ISPs they cant, so they have to make up for it somewhere...that somewhere is restricting downloads and uploads by terminating them.

Im glad the house walked out on the ISP immunity bill this morning...and then i read the FCC is investigating Comcast for violations...that just made my day wonderful. For the most part they are getting what they deserve.

I do have to admit. As much as people dog Time Warner, I have yet to have any complaints (except when they were re-running cable...and they gave me a two week notice before interruption).

 

[reckedracing]

I do have to admit. As much as people dog Time Warner, I have yet to have any complaints (except when they were re-running cable...and they gave me a two week notice before interruption).

my situation as posted above is on TWC

 

[MadMaXXX]

I am relieved that this passed.

 

[reikoshea]

my situation as posted above is on TWC

with your situation, you might wanna cap upload at 20-30k. If you dont have upload space, your internet will be slow as dog shit.

 

[reckedracing]

how do i know if i have upload?

993 kbps down 249 kbps up according to speakeasy

 

[reikoshea]

hmmm...mine caps at about 60 on TW.