keep d16z6 or swap

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jdmmachine

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i have a 1994 honda civic with a d16z6 (sohc vtec)
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figured theres no better place but here to ask all the gearheads if i should just build the engine with brand new aftermarket performance parts or just forget about it and save for a swap, i mean if you guys can show me that the d16z6 has really good potential then ill keep it, if not i guess ill save for a swap, well let the comments begin!
 
it depends on your goal. how much power are you wanting ect ect,,and whats your budget
 
lol im actually tryna do the same thing so if u get any tips would u mind hittin me up with some of that info :)
 
A b-series swap would probably be better for you. Cost to pull an engine/trans., tear it down, rebuild with aftermarket parts, put it all back together and re-install in the car. Not to mention a new clutch/flywheel, fuel system and engine management. Dollar for dollar the swap is a better choice for you at this time.
 
dont really have a budget i just write stuff down, create a list and as i save money i check them off one by one lol, but i atleast want 250whp if the crank can push it
 
well on a good tune and a 1400 dollar turbo. kit you can have about 250 whp. with your stock motor
 
The stock D-series cranks can hold up to 400+whp... but unfortunately the rods do not.
 
im new to the tuner thing and i always hear people just going on and on about b18c1 or gtfo..you know stuff like that...so i wasnt sure too sure, you guys seem to know what your talking about and you guys are very helpful
 
jdmmachine said:
im new to the tuner thing and i always hear people just going on and on about b18c1 or gtfo..you know stuff like that...so i wasnt sure too sure, you guys seem to know what your talking about and you guys are very helpful
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its all in the budget,.and goal..
 
well the only modification i have done to the engine is an aem intake, and some aftermarket headers so those two things are out of the way for now...., ive come up with a budget of around $2500 for now just to move things along..you know....anyone have suggestions on good trusted websites you normally buy your honda parts from? im currently looking around but if anyone has a good one ill gladly take a look :), thanks again guys
 
Blanco said:
Ok, so how much power do you want?

Oh, and you only have one header. :)
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so true im so used to saying "headers" i dont know why lol, im looking for a good 200-250whp but from the responses i read up top im told the rods wont hold over 200hp
 
If you plan on running 250 horses or close to I would suggest replacing the rods and going with eagle rods. Like everyone stated d-series rods do hold up to 250 horses on a good tune however if you ever decide 250 isn't enough anymore you can run far more with the eagle rods. its worth the money. Also get some viatara pistons with those rods and you are probably safe up til about 400 hp should you ever decide to go that high. Taking into account future mods and doing some premaintence like a new head gasket, the rods, pistons, and head studs will always help save money in the long run. Even if you don't run over 250 the eagle rods will last longer than d-series rods, head studs hold up better to boost than stock head bolts, and a new head gasket is something that any motor should get over like 60,000 miles.
 
The weakness in the D-series rods are actually the bolts; those usually cause the bearings to spin, thus throwing the rod. There are cheap and reliable rod options for the D16Z6; mainly Eagle, TunerToy, and FJT's custom rods.

FJT has a "engine kit" for D16s(IIRC includes bearings, seals, Vitara pistons, and probably some other stuff). for about $320 shipped. Add roughly $300(there's like an introductory price right now that's less though) for forged rods.
 
Every engine has it's very own potentials of pulling out power depending on what you want to get from it...
 
also have the head ported and polish its kind of restrictive and a good timing belt something better tha stock replacement i know 4 grand at 80 not good
 
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rafa B said:
also have the head ported and polish its kind of restrictive and a good timing belt something better tha stock replacement i know 4 grand at 80 not good
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what are you talking about
 
i had 250,000 miles original engine and the timing belt busted when i was about to race downshifted to 4th gear and sat at 4,000 rpm's at 80 miles and hour i had the head porteed and polish with new valves it opened up a lot
 
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