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kingmarc63 · 09-05-2003, 10:27 AM

1. i AM ABOUT TO SWAP A 1997 H22A JDM PRELUDE IN MY 1995 ACCORD...IS THIS 1997 JDM ENGINE OBD1 OR OBD2....?
2. CURRENTLY THE PRELUDE ENGINE IS IN A 1993 PRELUDE BODY WILL I HAVE TO DO TO MAKE THE WIRING PART OF THE SWAP PAIN FREE.
I AM TRYING TO AVOID BUYING A COMPLETE WIRING HARNESS FOR THE ENGINE TO WORK IN MY ACCORD.....
i WOULD APPRECIATE ANY INFO AT ALL ON WIRING THIS THING UP
THANKS

dohcvtec_accord · 09-05-2003, 11:03 AM

1. Your engine is OBD2.

2. You'll have to rewire the injectors and distributor, along with all the other wiring stuff required for an H22/Accord swap.

3. You'll need a conversion harness for the ECU to plug into your current wiring harness. Check on the Prelude that the engine is in right now to determine how it was accomplished there.

Are you SURE the engine in the car is a '97?

kingmarc63 · 09-05-2003, 12:42 PM

how can i be sure if it a 1997 or not....
the engine block has h22a so i know it is a jdm 1997-01

dohcvtec_accord · 09-06-2003, 11:16 AM

Ummmm, in my old Accord, my engine block said H22A, and it was from a 92-95 JDM Prelude....

If I were you, I'd take the ECU that came with the engine, and put it side-by-side with the ECU that's in your car. If the plugs look the same, then you've got an OBD1 engine. If not, it's OBD2....

AsiAnVenOm · 09-06-2003, 07:21 PM

there's year and month stamped right on the head saying what year and what month it was made....and if it's a JDM 97 H22A then it's an OBD1 engine...i'm saying this cuz that's what i got in my car...a 97 JDM h22a...you can flame me all you want but find out for yourself then flame on me...

Gen2Teg · 09-06-2003, 07:23 PM

Once again venom, NO. 97 is OBD 2.

Gen2Teg · 09-06-2003, 07:26 PM

Read the first line: http://www.hondaswap.com/articles/viewer.php?id=57
thats all my lazy ass could find about OBD on the homepage... could've found more but once again, im lazy

kingmarc63 · 09-07-2003, 01:03 AM

hey venom
Where on the head of the engine is this manufacture date written...?

ALSO, has any one ever done a complete wire harness swap for a h22a motor (everything from the ecu to the motor). I have an 1995 obd1 accord and trying to put a 1997 obd2 h22a motor in it...and presently the motor is in a 1993 prelude body

dohcvtec_accord · 09-07-2003, 10:37 PM

I assure everyone here that 97 and up Preludes were all OBD2.

kingmarc63 · 09-07-2003, 10:43 PM

comE' on guyS make your mind up IS A 1997 H22A JDM ENGINE AN OBD1??????

dohcvtec_accord · 09-07-2003, 10:49 PM

As I said above....

I am 110% positive that ANY engine that Honda made in 1997 or later is OBD2.

There shouldn't even be any argument about this. It's silly. The body styles AND engines changed in 97. I am willing to bet any amount of money that they're OBD2.

Want proof? Call you local Honda dealer.

AsiAnVenOm · 09-08-2003, 02:15 AM

the date, you have to remove the heat shield that covers the exhaust manifold it should stamp on the head just right above the exhaust manifold...it has lil circles....

about the OBD1 OBD2 thing...exactly the USDM H22a is OBD2 but JDM is still OBD1 up to 99...Kingmarc63...to know something sometimes you gotta find out for yourself...why dont you remove one of your injector from the 97 h22a (suppose to be OBD2) and plug it into your accord harness and see if it'll fit...cuz that's the only thing that's different in the engine...dont take my words for it...for everyone else say what you wanna say i aint argue'n....Kingmarc63...if you find out that it's an obd2 then i'll be here to take your flame and call me stupid...

How can you be a 110% positive?
B=2
U=21
L=10
L=10 +
S=19
H=8
I=10
T=20
--------
=110%

A=1
B=2
C=3
D=4
.
.
Z=26

Gen2Teg · 09-08-2003, 02:40 AM

No, its OBD 2. Quit pulling shit out of your ass and telling people wrong information. How can YOU be so sure that its OBD 1? Show me proof other than "because i say so!"

tab · 09-08-2003, 03:24 PM

Last time I checked, all engines made after 1996 were OBD 2. I have an OBD II code reader, and it read my girlfriends Saturn, and my sister's Oldsmobile. OBD II served as a standard for multiple manufacturers, not just for emissions reasons.

khrisb · 09-08-2003, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AsiAnVenOm@Sep 8 2003, 01:15 AM
the date, you have to remove the heat shield that covers the exhaust manifold it should stamp on the head just right above the exhaust manifold...it has lil circles....

about the OBD1 OBD2 thing...exactly the USDM H22a is OBD2 but JDM is still OBD1 up to 99...Kingmarc63...to know something sometimes you gotta find out for yourself...why dont you remove one of your injector from the 97 h22a (suppose to be OBD2) and plug it into your accord harness and see if it'll fit...cuz that's the only thing that's different in the engine...dont take my words for it...for everyone else say what you wanna say i aint argue'n....Kingmarc63...if you find out that it's an obd2 then i'll be here to take your flame and call me stupid...

How can you be a 110% positive?
B=2
U=21
L=10
L=10 +
S=19
H=8
I=10
T=20
--------
=110%

A=1
B=2
C=3
D=4
.
.
Z=26

That's funny!
I gotta use that one!

AsiAnVenOm · 09-08-2003, 04:46 PM

dude i got a 97 JDM h22a in my 95 ex...that's how i know...i was confused as fuck when i put that thing in there too...cuz i didn't know if it's OBD1 or OBD2 cuz people keep on telling me it's obd2 but the thing is it's jdm and the only different between OBD1 and obd2 is just the distributor and the injector (engine waise) but the jdm distributor is all internal, and the injector is still peak and hold injecter, now how did i know? cuz i sent it rc engineering to do a flow test and it did came out to be 345cc peak/hold injectors...honestly why would i pull something like that outta my ass and telling everyone? afterall i'm just sharing my experience of what i know if you dont believe me...fine...i aint got shit to prove...as far as a 97 jdm h22a, the question is did you atleast deal or experience with one bfore? if not then shut the fuck up...i can take a picture of the motor but what does that prove? nothing cuz the only different is the distrubitor and the injectors....and the stamp of the date of the engine that dont prove shit either...so i aint gonna try to prove nothing

as for kingmarc63 my words vs. everyone else i guess...find out for yourself....i'm just trying to help but if you dont believe me then eventually you'll find out when you do the actual swap...

dohcvtec_accord · 09-08-2003, 04:52 PM

Well how do you know it's out of a 97?

kingmarc63 · 09-08-2003, 06:51 PM

ok guys before you all start shooting each other i am going to do a research in the body of the 1993 prelude that i have...
I have already taken out the pressumed 1997 h22a engine and tranny but the ecu is still in there.
1. I am going to ceck the block for a date like what asian venom said
2. i am going o check the ecu to see if it p13 or what ever
3 i am going to check the see if there is any obd1 or 2 adapter on the ecu
4. i am going to check to see if the presummed 1997 h22a injector will fit my accord harness has dohcvtec said

I will let you guy know the result of my finding later
ps. i was told that i have a 1997 engine so if there is no current modifiction the the 1993 prelude wiring the engine is obd1. I think ?????????
Thanks for all the info

AsiAnVenOm · 09-09-2003, 05:33 AM

dude by now you know know that there's a date stamped right on the head of each engine...and yeah i read the date on the engine that's how i know it's a 97 and yes it said "97" on the head...and yes i know how to read numbers...

Kingmarc63: bfore you find out...i suggest you get'n a 92-95 ecu....and dont get the conversion kit...i experience this first hand....and if i'm wrong with this i'm willing to bet, i will give you a set of 345cc peak/hold injectors to convert your motor to obd1...and on top of that, if you're anywhere in california and willing to drive to my house, i'll help you install your motor for free within a day...so there how's that? i put the money where my mouth is...i talk shit and walk the walk..

the reason why i got a set of 345cc peak/hold injectors and obd1 distributor laying around is cuz there's alota dumb fuck saying that it's obd2 and have to convert it to OBD1 then i have to replace those...

and yes anyone can sit there and play "what if" all fucking day long....

kingmarc63 · 09-09-2003, 11:27 PM

hey asianvenom,
did you get my email, hit me up urgently
Thanks
marc
618 791 2991

kingmarc63 · 09-17-2003, 12:40 PM

where did you dissappear to asianVENOM.....I f you believe in your position then stand true to it and stop hiding....

you promised me a swap and some injectors if you are wrong about the obd1 /obd2 question...Why the HIDING????

dohcvtec_accord · 09-17-2003, 02:58 PM

Yes, and I'd advise you watching who you call "dumb fuck". You actually look like the dumb fuck here, because either:

1. you had the engine and didn't bother checking which OBD it was before buying all the extra parts

or

2. you ordered a 97 without asking the engine importers you bought it from which OBD it was

kingmarc63 · 09-18-2003, 03:12 AM

i dont have a fucking clue who and what you are talking about? dohcvtec
get your shit straight

kingmarc63 · 09-18-2003, 04:11 AM

Thanks for contacting me Asianvenom,
while everyone is talking outta their asses you are the only one willing to back your shit up
peace

AsiAnVenOm · 09-18-2003, 04:20 AM

first of all...i dont recall calling your dumb fuck....
second of all...i'm just like the rest...gotta start from somewhere...a 97 jdm...people said it's OBD2...ok..so i gotta convert it to obd1....that's why i got the parts...but after i got the parts...found out that there's no different from the one i got in my motor...

hey i experienced something and willing to share...if you dont care to know...that's fine...and whatever you say...it's your opinion...doesn't bother me....

by the way...i got all my parts for free....so how i'm i a dumb fuck if i can sell the parts for profit if i dont need it no more? dumb fuck? hmm...i'm not...are you?

hahahhaha

09-05-2003, 10:27 AM	#1
kingmarc63 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	1. i AM ABOUT TO SWAP A 1997 H22A JDM PRELUDE IN MY 1995 ACCORD...IS THIS 1997 JDM ENGINE OBD1 OR OBD2....? 2. CURRENTLY THE PRELUDE ENGINE IS IN A 1993 PRELUDE BODY WILL I HAVE TO DO TO MAKE THE WIRING PART OF THE SWAP PAIN FREE. I AM TRYING TO AVOID BUYING A COMPLETE WIRING HARNESS FOR THE ENGINE TO WORK IN MY ACCORD..... i WOULD APPRECIATE ANY INFO AT ALL ON WIRING THIS THING UP THANKS __________________ H22Acclude: That is after i frankensteined my 95 accord lx with a h22 type s prelude with lsd tranny: HAHAHAHA

09-05-2003, 11:03 AM	#2
dohcvtec_accord WRX Sellout Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The left lane Age: 32 Posts: 8,498 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2002 WRB Impreza WRX Rep Power: 99	1. Your engine is OBD2. 2. You'll have to rewire the injectors and distributor, along with all the other wiring stuff required for an H22/Accord swap. 3. You'll need a conversion harness for the ECU to plug into your current wiring harness. Check on the Prelude that the engine is in right now to determine how it was accomplished there. Are you SURE the engine in the car is a '97? __________________ This space left intentionally blank.

09-05-2003, 12:42 PM	#3
kingmarc63 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	how can i be sure if it a 1997 or not.... the engine block has h22a so i know it is a jdm 1997-01 __________________ H22Acclude: That is after i frankensteined my 95 accord lx with a h22 type s prelude with lsd tranny: HAHAHAHA

09-06-2003, 11:16 AM	#4
dohcvtec_accord WRX Sellout Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The left lane Age: 32 Posts: 8,498 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2002 WRB Impreza WRX Rep Power: 99	Ummmm, in my old Accord, my engine block said H22A, and it was from a 92-95 JDM Prelude.... If I were you, I'd take the ECU that came with the engine, and put it side-by-side with the ECU that's in your car. If the plugs look the same, then you've got an OBD1 engine. If not, it's OBD2.... __________________ This space left intentionally blank.

09-06-2003, 07:23 PM	#6
Gen2Teg Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: san francisco Age: 24 Posts: 555 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: DC2 ITR and DC4 LS Rep Power: 19	Once again venom, NO. 97 is OBD 2. __________________


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09-06-2003, 07:21 PM	#5
AsiAnVenOm Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 75 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 14	there's year and month stamped right on the head saying what year and what month it was made....and if it's a JDM 97 H22A then it's an OBD1 engine...i'm saying this cuz that's what i got in my car...a 97 JDM h22a...you can flame me all you want but find out for yourself then flame on me...

09-06-2003, 07:26 PM	#7
Gen2Teg Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: san francisco Age: 24 Posts: 555 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: DC2 ITR and DC4 LS Rep Power: 19	Read the first line: http://www.hondaswap.com/articles/viewer.php?id=57 thats all my lazy ass could find about OBD on the homepage... could've found more but once again, im lazy __________________

09-07-2003, 01:03 AM	#8
kingmarc63 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	hey venom Where on the head of the engine is this manufacture date written...? ALSO, has any one ever done a complete wire harness swap for a h22a motor (everything from the ecu to the motor). I have an 1995 obd1 accord and trying to put a 1997 obd2 h22a motor in it...and presently the motor is in a 1993 prelude body __________________ H22Acclude: That is after i frankensteined my 95 accord lx with a h22 type s prelude with lsd tranny: HAHAHAHA

09-07-2003, 10:37 PM	#9
dohcvtec_accord WRX Sellout Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The left lane Age: 32 Posts: 8,498 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2002 WRB Impreza WRX Rep Power: 99	I assure everyone here that 97 and up Preludes were all OBD2. __________________ This space left intentionally blank.

09-07-2003, 10:43 PM	#10
kingmarc63 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	comE' on guyS make your mind up IS A 1997 H22A JDM ENGINE AN OBD1?????? __________________ H22Acclude: That is after i frankensteined my 95 accord lx with a h22 type s prelude with lsd tranny: HAHAHAHA

09-07-2003, 10:49 PM	#11
dohcvtec_accord WRX Sellout Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The left lane Age: 32 Posts: 8,498 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2002 WRB Impreza WRX Rep Power: 99	As I said above.... I am 110% positive that ANY engine that Honda made in 1997 or later is OBD2. There shouldn't even be any argument about this. It's silly. The body styles AND engines changed in 97. I am willing to bet any amount of money that they're OBD2. Want proof? Call you local Honda dealer. __________________ This space left intentionally blank.

09-08-2003, 02:15 AM	#12
AsiAnVenOm Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 75 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 14	the date, you have to remove the heat shield that covers the exhaust manifold it should stamp on the head just right above the exhaust manifold...it has lil circles.... about the OBD1 OBD2 thing...exactly the USDM H22a is OBD2 but JDM is still OBD1 up to 99...Kingmarc63...to know something sometimes you gotta find out for yourself...why dont you remove one of your injector from the 97 h22a (suppose to be OBD2) and plug it into your accord harness and see if it'll fit...cuz that's the only thing that's different in the engine...dont take my words for it...for everyone else say what you wanna say i aint argue'n....Kingmarc63...if you find out that it's an obd2 then i'll be here to take your flame and call me stupid... How can you be a 110% positive? B=2 U=21 L=10 L=10 + S=19 H=8 I=10 T=20 -------- =110% A=1 B=2 C=3 D=4 . . Z=26

09-08-2003, 02:40 AM	#13
Gen2Teg Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: san francisco Age: 24 Posts: 555 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: DC2 ITR and DC4 LS Rep Power: 19	No, its OBD 2. Quit pulling shit out of your ass and telling people wrong information. How can YOU be so sure that its OBD 1? Show me proof other than "because i say so!" __________________

09-08-2003, 03:24 PM	#14
tab Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Aberdeen, Washington State Posts: 3,736 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 03 Avalanche Rep Power: 51	Last time I checked, all engines made after 1996 were OBD 2. I have an OBD II code reader, and it read my girlfriends Saturn, and my sister's Oldsmobile. OBD II served as a standard for multiple manufacturers, not just for emissions reasons. __________________ -------------------- -------------------- 2003 Chevy Avalanche Leather, Moonroof, Z71, tow package, bose+six disc, nice. 1992 Accord EX (sold to good friends) JDM H22A H22A Auto Tranny w/LSD I/H/E -- All stainless w/2.5 inch Catback 1968 Oldsmobile Toronado Project car, 455 ci front wheel drive, nasty.

09-08-2003, 04:46 PM	#16
AsiAnVenOm Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 75 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 14	dude i got a 97 JDM h22a in my 95 ex...that's how i know...i was confused as fuck when i put that thing in there too...cuz i didn't know if it's OBD1 or OBD2 cuz people keep on telling me it's obd2 but the thing is it's jdm and the only different between OBD1 and obd2 is just the distributor and the injector (engine waise) but the jdm distributor is all internal, and the injector is still peak and hold injecter, now how did i know? cuz i sent it rc engineering to do a flow test and it did came out to be 345cc peak/hold injectors...honestly why would i pull something like that outta my ass and telling everyone? afterall i'm just sharing my experience of what i know if you dont believe me...fine...i aint got shit to prove...as far as a 97 jdm h22a, the question is did you atleast deal or experience with one bfore? if not then shut the fuck up...i can take a picture of the motor but what does that prove? nothing cuz the only different is the distrubitor and the injectors....and the stamp of the date of the engine that dont prove shit either...so i aint gonna try to prove nothing as for kingmarc63 my words vs. everyone else i guess...find out for yourself....i'm just trying to help but if you dont believe me then eventually you'll find out when you do the actual swap...

09-08-2003, 04:52 PM	#17
dohcvtec_accord WRX Sellout Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The left lane Age: 32 Posts: 8,498 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2002 WRB Impreza WRX Rep Power: 99	Well how do you know it's out of a 97? __________________ This space left intentionally blank.

09-08-2003, 06:51 PM	#18
kingmarc63 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	ok guys before you all start shooting each other i am going to do a research in the body of the 1993 prelude that i have... I have already taken out the pressumed 1997 h22a engine and tranny but the ecu is still in there. 1. I am going to ceck the block for a date like what asian venom said 2. i am going o check the ecu to see if it p13 or what ever 3 i am going to check the see if there is any obd1 or 2 adapter on the ecu 4. i am going to check to see if the presummed 1997 h22a injector will fit my accord harness has dohcvtec said I will let you guy know the result of my finding later ps. i was told that i have a 1997 engine so if there is no current modifiction the the 1993 prelude wiring the engine is obd1. I think ????????? Thanks for all the info __________________ H22Acclude: That is after i frankensteined my 95 accord lx with a h22 type s prelude with lsd tranny: HAHAHAHA

09-09-2003, 05:33 AM	#19
AsiAnVenOm Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 75 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 14	dude by now you know know that there's a date stamped right on the head of each engine...and yeah i read the date on the engine that's how i know it's a 97 and yes it said "97" on the head...and yes i know how to read numbers... Kingmarc63: bfore you find out...i suggest you get'n a 92-95 ecu....and dont get the conversion kit...i experience this first hand....and if i'm wrong with this i'm willing to bet, i will give you a set of 345cc peak/hold injectors to convert your motor to obd1...and on top of that, if you're anywhere in california and willing to drive to my house, i'll help you install your motor for free within a day...so there how's that? i put the money where my mouth is...i talk shit and walk the walk.. the reason why i got a set of 345cc peak/hold injectors and obd1 distributor laying around is cuz there's alota dumb fuck saying that it's obd2 and have to convert it to OBD1 then i have to replace those... and yes anyone can sit there and play "what if" all fucking day long....

09-09-2003, 11:27 PM	#20
kingmarc63 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	hey asianvenom, did you get my email, hit me up urgently Thanks marc 618 791 2991 __________________ H22Acclude: That is after i frankensteined my 95 accord lx with a h22 type s prelude with lsd tranny: HAHAHAHA

09-17-2003, 12:40 PM	#21
kingmarc63 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	where did you dissappear to asianVENOM.....I f you believe in your position then stand true to it and stop hiding.... you promised me a swap and some injectors if you are wrong about the obd1 /obd2 question...Why the HIDING???? __________________ H22Acclude: That is after i frankensteined my 95 accord lx with a h22 type s prelude with lsd tranny: HAHAHAHA

09-17-2003, 02:58 PM	#22
dohcvtec_accord WRX Sellout Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The left lane Age: 32 Posts: 8,498 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2002 WRB Impreza WRX Rep Power: 99	Yes, and I'd advise you watching who you call "dumb fuck". You actually look like the dumb fuck here, because either: 1. you had the engine and didn't bother checking which OBD it was before buying all the extra parts or 2. you ordered a 97 without asking the engine importers you bought it from which OBD it was __________________ This space left intentionally blank.

09-18-2003, 03:12 AM	#23
kingmarc63 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	i dont have a fucking clue who and what you are talking about? dohcvtec get your shit straight __________________ H22Acclude: That is after i frankensteined my 95 accord lx with a h22 type s prelude with lsd tranny: HAHAHAHA

09-18-2003, 04:11 AM	#24
kingmarc63 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 178 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	Thanks for contacting me Asianvenom, while everyone is talking outta their asses you are the only one willing to back your shit up peace __________________ H22Acclude: That is after i frankensteined my 95 accord lx with a h22 type s prelude with lsd tranny: HAHAHAHA

09-18-2003, 04:20 AM	#25
AsiAnVenOm Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 75 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 14	first of all...i dont recall calling your dumb fuck.... second of all...i'm just like the rest...gotta start from somewhere...a 97 jdm...people said it's OBD2...ok..so i gotta convert it to obd1....that's why i got the parts...but after i got the parts...found out that there's no different from the one i got in my motor... hey i experienced something and willing to share...if you dont care to know...that's fine...and whatever you say...it's your opinion...doesn't bother me.... by the way...i got all my parts for free....so how i'm i a dumb fuck if i can sell the parts for profit if i dont need it no more? dumb fuck? hmm...i'm not...are you? hahahhaha

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