mechanicallychallenged

Alright, I just bought a 91 Accord LX. It's mainly all stock as far as I know except it has an aftermarket Air Intake. I'm completely noob as to what needs replaced to get the best preformance out of my car. I have the cash to overhaul this car, just not the brains. (i.e. my username) I've been hearing alot about vtec and how it works. I would like to know what to get for my car to make it the street racer it could be. Any and all help is appreciated, Thanks.

AHHVTEC

well, the only way your gona be happy i thinks is either turbo whats you have or drop a h22a in there

mechanicallychallenged

hehe...h22a? sorry bro this is my first car and have NO idea wtf is going on. If you could link me a site or explain that would be great.

AHHVTEC

your already at a site that has tons of info on the swap. try the search up at the top of the page.the h22a is from a jdm prelude it will drop right in your car.

mechanicallychallenged

im sure you know what you're talking about but are you POSITIVE that an h22a will fall into my car? I mean from waht I'm reading it's for 94-97 accords. Just...wonderin.

AHHVTEC

keep reading..you can use your stock tranny and all

mechanicallychallenged

Street Imports - Honda H22A 2.2L VTEC Complete JDM Engine Swap is what I'm looking at and that gives me the manual tranny, ecu...everything for 2.5k do you think that's a good deal or would I be better off grabbing the H22a and tranny seperate?

AHHVTEC

well its best to get the h22a tranny but if your on a budget all you need is the motor and ecu...but i would order from this place www.hmotorsline.com

mechanicallychallenged

yea I was looking on that site too. Hmm I added rep to ya cause you've been alot of help. will the H22a engine/tranny work alright with the accord?

AHHVTEC

thanks for the rep. and yes its perty much your only choice unless you turbo your stock motor or dump some serious $$$$. to give you a ideal of what it will be like a stock h22a in your car will beat this piss out of a gt mustang

mechanicallychallenged

on hmotorsonline.com it doesnt specify whethere they're auto or man just says "hydraulic" and do I want the long block or no? sorry for so many noob questions, I feel retarded.


DOH my bad...further down the list it says "clutch" so ... nvm.

AHHVTEC

i hope your car is a 5spd.?...but yea it has 5spd tranny with them you want the long block, but heres what you need http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc...age&item=30016

mechanicallychallenged

eh...I have to do a tranny swap at the same time..so yea. It's auto atm. Like I said, I have the cash. I want the long block? Why's that? There's only one long block on the site. and it doesn't come with a tranny.

AHHVTEC

right thats why its called a long block, its just the motor no tranny, you want the full sap in the link i posted..but it sounds like you got some work to do, converting it to 5spd and all. how many miles is on your stock motor

mechanicallychallenged

you dont wanna know..

AHHVTEC

in that case go with the h22a lol

mechanicallychallenged

yea it's got like 380k miles on the stock engine...but I'm replacing all the interior and under the hood before anything gets thrown on body wise. Dont need my car stolen cause it's "hott" anyway, so yea I know I've got alot of work to do and I have alot of time to do it. I work at a paint/body shop where there's always an open lift and a couple jack-offs standing around to help with somethin. also have the time to do it..I'm homeschooled. >.<

mechanicallychallenged

any other upgrades that you would do? I'm completely retarded when it comes to stuff under the hood.

AHHVTEC

i was too my last 2 years of school

mechanicallychallenged

ANYONE got a list of stuff you generally need to replace with aftermarket?

Black Ty 1.5

ok well get u started with a lil list

- do the auto to 5speed swap.

- pickup the h22 from hmotors or wherever u wud like to.

- ur gonna want an aftermarket header i might b wrong but the h22 one wont fit or somtn like that.

- also ur gonna wanna do ur exhaust system u can get a cat-back setup theres enough of them around the net or u can jus get it custom made at an exhuast shop run about 2.5 inch dat shud b good.

- ur probably gonna wanna lower ur car by now so get the tein basic full coilovers or there arent that many manufactures making these for accords so i jus said tein cuz every1 knows about it an u can find it there.

- o an dont forget to get ur cold air intake u can get the aem 1 or u can make a cheaper alternative but lose the stock intake dat thing wont get u far.

if i missed anything im sure som1 will say somthin but dat is pretty much a level 1 for modding ur car for now.

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BrutalB83

The H22's header will work just fine, and it's actually a pretty decently-designed factory manifold. Also, there are plenty of suspension options for the Accord (Tokico, Eibach, Omni, H&R, Neuspeed, etc.). No offense dude, but if you don't know what you're talking about then no need to respond...

What exactly do you mean? That's kind of a vague question...

The H22 is a complete bolt-in swap for your chassis. You don't really need to replace anything. It's up to you whether you want to add after-market parts or not. It really depends on your budget and power goals...

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Black Ty 1.5

well i was jus tryna give the guy n idea of things that can b done son he can eventually come up with his own ideas an wat not.

as for the h22 being a bolt in swap its not exactly like that .

- for the h22 to be wired up using the the f22's harness he's gonna have to lengthen the o2 sensor wire.

- the oil pressure sensor and the egr valve have to be swapped form the f22 and also the f22 has an extra coolant temp sensor on the radiator return neck that h22 does not he jus has swap necks between engines.

-now for the headers yes u r right that the h22's stock exhaust header is pretty good but it will only b useful if the h22 he's getting is a 93-96 usdm h22 but however if he get's a jdm h22a the down pipe has a larger flange that will not bolt up to the cb7 cat most likely hes gonna end up getting a h22a so thats y i told him to get an aftermarket header.

No offense son, but if you don't know what you're talking about then there is no need to respond...

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BrutalB83

Son? Right...how old are you? 19?

Did I say anything about the wiring? No, I said it will drop in and bolt up, which is true. Obviously some minor changes have to be made to the F22's harness to make it work.

As for the header, if you have specific information like that, then why didn't you say it the first time? Saying "ur gonna want an aftermarket header i might b wrong but the h22 one wont fit or somtn like that" doesn't exactly make you sound like a reputable source of information, ya know?

Or did you go look that info up after you read my post to make yourself look smart?

Anyway, technically the down-pipe's going to be bolting up to the cat converter, not the cat-back. And if he wants to use an after-market cat or he wants to delete the cat altogether, then he'll be fine with the JDM manifold, which, like I said, is a nicely-designed piece.

Got anything else to add?

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Black Ty 1.5

i dont think u fully understand wat i said but the main point of me posting was to help the guy out i dont kno wat ur purpose is but i hope that mechanically challenged gets wat he wanted out of the thread an nex time be a lil more specific in ur questions otherwise let us kno how it turned out

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