timEspeed

Has anyone heard of swapping an h22 with the Prelude CV Transmission into a '91 accord? I ask about this for many reasons, including the awesome potential af CVTs. That and the power of persuassion that an auto transam with an LT1 engine and Paxton SC has. My goal is the "instant torque with a nudge of the throttle" kinda feeling.

tab

Constant Velocity Transmission? Do you mean automatic?

I have automatic, and they can be potent if built right.

Oh, turbocharger>supercharger, unless you want partial boost at 1000 rpms.

You have to take into account the static compression of the H22. The high compression gives you good throttle response, and with a turbo the boost would kick by 2-3k no problem.

My .02

brian11to1

sorta like ugly chicks and fat chicks right? Well they aint getting it from me!

When my integra was an automatic i was told to boost it, I would never miss a shift. So go for it, it will work.

blm143

i have a 90 accord auto but want to convert to 5 spd. do you guys think that would be good?or what kind of swap should i do and convert to 5 spd at same time?

UDT

Yes, if you can afford it yes.

brian11to1

You can use any prelude or accord transmission when converting an Accord/Prelude to manual. Yes, it is worth it.

pedal assembly
clutch resevoir
clutch ahrd lines
clutch master cylinder
shift CABLEs
clutch kit
transmission (any except Prelude SH)
shift lever
brake fluid for clutch
shfiter stabilzer (may as well replace it with a prothane or ES unit while its out.)

sleepn_accord

I have a JDM H22A w/ LSD AT and I'm still faster than most b16 hatchbacks..

I ran low 14's at the track..

My buddy has a 5 spd and got high 14's.

IMHO, especially if you have a lot of traffic to sit in..

stay automatic. I love the look on people's face when my automatic chirps 2nd gear..

brian11to1

There's a girl who drives an AUTO mustang that chirps 3rd. That fugger is quick.

sleepn_accord

ahhh... but does it run on rice!?

brian11to1

no. good point she has a shift kit also

tab

I love the look they give you.

timEspeed

My question is if Icould put the CVT in an Accord along with the H22 and how would I do it? I'm thinkin just the tranny and ECU but how else would this vary from your average H22 swap? What models did this transmission come in?

reckedracing

the only look i would give you is what the fuck is wrong with you...? and uhm... good luck changing the auto trans in 15K miles if you keep beating it like that...

ask any racer... and REAL racer...

auto is good for stop and go and commuting... but uhm... if you enjoy driving then you'll go with a 5 speed...

timEspeed

Yeah, I own 3 5spd cars. Ever hear of purpose built tuning? Well I have my reasons for doing so, one of them stated above. If you don't have any thing constructive to add, read my sig--->

sleepn_accord

I don't think the tranny is "only going to last 15K".

(Besides they're only $300 apeice).. but the tranny was designed to shift at 7200. Meaning it's not being forced to hold the higher RPM's (by me..well all that often).. the computer is telling it to do so.

timEspeed

by reprograming the computer via engine management sysem I can change the shift points or hold the motor at peak power while changing gear ratios. Similar to how the insight does it except tuned for power instead of fuel economy. The codes for the tranny take 3 input signals from the TPS, RPM and the VSS. They are 3 3-D maps at are optimized for economy, performance and something else (can't remember). By altering these maps and optimizng them trough tuning I'll have one bad setup. So thank me for my excellent idea. If I swap into a '93 accord, which prelude do I get the engine/tranny from? Are there CVT's in the JDM H22's?

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tab

I've never heard that CVT term before you said it. H22 Automatics were only in Japan(At least with the OBD 1 engines). 92-96 JDM H22A Automatic swap is what you are looking for. Adjust the shift points all you like, I just hold each gear manually until I want the car to shift. Regular cruising is fine in D3 or D4. My car is in D3 a lot, since I live close to downtown.

timEspeed

A CVT is a Continuously Varible Transmission. It has an 'infinite' number of gear ratios adjusted by the ECU. You know, "manumatic"? I'm not talking about a 5 speed or conventional automatic.

timEspeed

anyone?

timEspeed

guess not.

Wytt

As far as I know (at least for USDM) CVT is only offered in Civic HX, Civic Hybrid, and the Insight. I don't believe they made one for the Accord or the Prelude, because the CVT can't handle that much power, well at least the ones that Honda makes. (I believe Audi makes a chain version of the CVT that can handle more power, but Honda's I believe they use rubber hence why some people call it the rubberband transmission). CVT as a technology still has potential for automatic cars, I know that for my Civic HX it launches harder than an normal automatic, almost like a manual. timEspeed, if you where try to say that a CVT is a "manumatic," it's not. It's just another form of an automatic transmission.

timEspeed

I was just trying to explain whats up. However the CVT has set ratios that are controlled by a button on the steering wheel. Has anyone heard of a similar tranny in a prelude?

Wytt

I know they have something like that, but again, it's not from Honda (again, I think its from Audi). The closest thing to that is the "S" and "L" mode, which basically simulates the "D2" and D1" in most automatics. The only thing I can think of that your are thinking of ( ) is that some Prelude had automatic transmission with "Sequential SportShift." That's the closest thing that was made for Preludes.

timEspeed

and what lude did that come in?

Wytt

The Prelude with the "Sequential SportShift" (SS) occured in the 5th generation, so I think '97 to the very last one. Word of warning. Preludes, for Honda, was there experimental car. The SS was there first, and about 40% of them fail. I heard that around 2000 and up, they should be okay, but I'm still kinda iffy on it. Unforunately, I don't know the transmission code/number of the good ones. And I think it also is the case for the regular auto. You might not of heard this because most people who pick up a Prelude, usually get the manual, which I pretty much suggesting the same. But if still want to get one, all I can say is get a Transmission Fuild Cooler and change your ATF regularly, and hopefully that will help.

And just in case you don't believe me (I donno why not ) :P , you can find a bunch of people complaining about it, just do a search. And here is a very good one. Hope that helps