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D-Shiznit · 10-10-2004, 02:26 AM

Hello V-Techians. I've got a 90 Accord, F22 that has almost 200k mi. I've already got $4000 invested into a custom-welded catback exhust, sick 17'' Motegi 7 points, a killer JL sound system that I custom installed myself, and close to $1600 into new brake pads, shoes, drums, calipers, re-calibrated rotors, and brand new joints all the way around. Needless to say after this kind of time and $ into it I'm not in the market for a different auto. This is my first Honda and my first import for that matter and I have done all the mods myself with the exception of the welded exhust(I don't weld). The only other real mods on the Engine are a wimpy universal air intake, a vacuum hose dress-up kit, a red top Optima battery, and Bosch Platinum 4 plugs and (lifetime warr.) wires. I am badly in need of struts/springs but that is a whole different threadpost. My main question is since most of my eng. mods would definately transfer to the H22 is that my only real option for a swap or could a B18C or K-series swap be a possibility? Another question is if I go with the H22 swap I was told that a supercharger is out of the question since there isn't enough room between the motor and firewall. I'm not exactly crushed by this news since I can't afford one anyway but if a s-charger won't fit than will a turbo fit? If not would it fit on one of the more difficult B or K series(if applicable?) swaps? I'm looking for the most possible hp whp gain without messing with the V-Tech internals. Also, what bolt-ons would be to my benifit with or w/out the turbo app.(besides exhust of coarse)? Keep in mind that after the eng swap and possible turbo install my pocketbook will be extremely thin. Oh, just one more question guys: Is my manual F22 trans able to match up perfectly with the H22, B18C, & K20A or 23? Thank you ahead of time for any and all helpful input and advice.

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ReDLiNe_9700K · 10-10-2004, 03:06 AM

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Originally posted by D-Shiznit@Oct 10 2004, 01:26 AM
Hello V-Techians.* I've got a 90 Accord, F22 that has almost 200k mi.* I've already got $4000 invested into a custom-welded catback exhust, sick 17'' Motegi 7 points, a killer JL sound system that I custom installed myself, and close to $1600 into new brake pads, shoes, drums, calipers, re-calibrated rotors, and brand new joints all the way around.* Needless to say after this kind of time and $ into it I'm not in the market for a different auto.* This is my first Honda and my first import for that matter and I have done all the mods myself with the exception of the welded exhust(I don't weld).* The only other real mods on the Engine are a wimpy universal air intake, a vacuum hose dress-up kit, a red top Optima battery, and Bosch Platinum 4 plugs and (lifetime warr.) wires.* I am badly in need of struts/springs but that is a whole different threadpost.* My main question is since most of my eng. mods would definately transfer to the H22 is that my only real option for a swap or could a B18C or K-series swap be a possibility?* Another question is if I go with the H22 swap I was told that a supercharger is out of the question since there isn't enough room between the motor and firewall.* I'm not exactly crushed by this news since I can't afford one anyway but if a s-charger won't fit than will a turbo fit?* If not would it fit on one of the more difficult B or K series(if applicable?) swaps?* I'm looking for the most possible hp whp gain without messing with the V-Tech internals.* Also, what bolt-ons would be to my benifit with or w/out the turbo app.(besides exhust of coarse)?* Keep in mind that after the eng swap and possible turbo install my pocketbook will be extremely thin.* Oh, just one more question guys:* Is my manual F22 trans able to match up perfectly with the H22, B18C, & K20A or 23?* Thank you ahead of time for any and all helpful input and advice.

------- D-Shiznit -------

Quoted post

you have an accord man!!! you only have 3 choices anyway....H22, f22 or H23. if your really gonna modify your car to really fit a b18 or k20, then you might as well drop a 350 in that bitch. that right there is the real JDM jumpoff

your stock F22 tranny will work with any of these 3 motors !! i have a 93 accord and i went H23 lude' motor with a REV HARD T3/T4 turbo kit!!

smooth95 · 10-10-2004, 10:49 AM

Trannys will match up with these three engines also you should probably go with an h22

tab · 10-10-2004, 03:59 PM

dohcvtec_accord · 10-11-2004, 11:42 AM

The statement about the supercharger is correct. It won't fit in an H22 Accord.

You can definitely turbo the engine, though.

reckedracing · 10-11-2004, 12:32 PM

B or K series would be impractical due to lack of torque(B series) and expense(K series)

if you have the money then go for the H22 with a matching tranny to really take advantage of the vtec...
a non-h22 tranny will hurt you...

some other suggestions for you...

you may want to lower your car with some performance springs... better look, more agressive stance, and your handling will improve for the corners...
(sorry, just reread and saw you adressed this already)

you may also want to consider a custom turbo setup...
for the 2200 you would spend on an H22 swap you could build a killer turbo for the F series...

i have "heard" that a first gen dsm turbo manifold will work on an f22 with modification, but cannot swear its true...

you may also want o consider upgrading your rear brakes to disc...

just some ideas for you

H22AdelSol · 10-20-2004, 03:30 AM

Why would you even consider putting anything other than an h22 in it? If youve got the money, have someone make you mounts for K.

78civic · 10-30-2004, 09:30 AM

Recked... Do you have any info on installing a turbo setup on a F22a?
I have a 92 accord with only 120k miles and it looks like there would be plenty of room..

Was thinking of the H22 swap, but if I can have it done in a weekend... And for less cash, that would be easier than a full swap.
Around here, you could run around with a 'partial' exhaust for a while..

New here, but been messin with Hondas since the late 70s
I've had dozens and dozens of 'em...

Thanks.. E

tab · 10-30-2004, 09:30 PM

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Originally posted by 78civic@Oct 30 2004, 08:30 AM
Recked... Do you have any info on installing a turbo setup on a F22a?
I have a 92 accord with only 120k miles and it looks like there would be plenty of room..

Was thinking of the H22 swap, but if I can have it done in a weekend... And for less cash, that would be easier than a full swap.
Around here, you could run around with a 'partial' exhaust for a while..

New here, but been messin with Hondas since the late 70s
I've had dozens and dozens of 'em...

Thanks.. E

Quoted post

There's a kit on EBAY right now, and plenty of information on the technicalities in the forced induction forum.

driver1 · 10-31-2004, 11:01 AM

[quote=78civic,Oct 30 2004, 08:30 AM]
Recked... Do you have any info on installing a turbo setup on a F22a?
I have a 92 accord with only 120k miles and it looks like there would be plenty of room..

dont threadjack...start your own thread for your own questions

smooth95 · 10-31-2004, 11:20 AM

You should probably stick with the h22 swap for now that would be your best bet and later down the road turbo it

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10-10-2004, 10:49 AM	#3
smooth95 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: South Cali Posts: 325 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 16	Trannys will match up with these three engines also you should probably go with an h22 __________________ <span style=\"color:red\">95 Accord JDM H22 swap LSD tranny Apex-i N1 exhaust 2.25 cat back, Eibach pro-kit springs Jag style tailights, AEM V2 intake DC front sway bar,Carbon fiber VIS OEM hood Carbon fiber mirrors,PSPEC short shifter Type R knob JDM 1 piece headlights,JDM stanley yellow foglights JDM rear door garnishes, JDM fenders, JDM sidemarkers Fidanza flywheel,stage 2 clutch specialties</span> 96 civic hatch usdm b18 swap dc 4-1 header password jdm power chamber carbon fiber intake AEM high flow fuel rail, RC 310cc injectors AEM fpr,hondata s200 p28,Blox intake manifold, Password jdm heatshield,spoon exhaust 2.25 all the way, spoon fin, ctr headlights, password jdm air bag block off tray jdm coinholder,00 ek tail lights,kng wires,carbon kevlar cover <img src=\"http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/smooth95/clubek.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"IPB Image\" />

10-10-2004, 03:59 PM	#4
tab Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Aberdeen, Washington State Posts: 3,736 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 03 Avalanche Rep Power: 51	__________________ -------------------- -------------------- 2003 Chevy Avalanche Leather, Moonroof, Z71, tow package, bose+six disc, nice. 1992 Accord EX (sold to good friends) JDM H22A H22A Auto Tranny w/LSD I/H/E -- All stainless w/2.5 inch Catback 1968 Oldsmobile Toronado Project car, 455 ci front wheel drive, nasty.

10-11-2004, 11:42 AM	#5
dohcvtec_accord WRX Sellout Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The left lane Age: 32 Posts: 8,498 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2002 WRB Impreza WRX Rep Power: 99	The statement about the supercharger is correct. It won't fit in an H22 Accord. You can definitely turbo the engine, though. __________________ This space left intentionally blank.

10-11-2004, 12:32 PM	#6
reckedracing TTIWWOP Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: 845 Area, NY Age: 29 Posts: 15,381 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90 z6-t hatch, 94 Bagged S10, 91 Lifted Mazda Rep Power: 411	B or K series would be impractical due to lack of torque(B series) and expense(K series) if you have the money then go for the H22 with a matching tranny to really take advantage of the vtec... a non-h22 tranny will hurt you... some other suggestions for you... you may want to lower your car with some performance springs... better look, more agressive stance, and your handling will improve for the corners... (sorry, just reread and saw you adressed this already) you may also want to consider a custom turbo setup... for the 2200 you would spend on an H22 swap you could build a killer turbo for the F series... i have "heard" that a first gen dsm turbo manifold will work on an f22 with modification, but cannot swear its true... you may also want o consider upgrading your rear brakes to disc... just some ideas for you __________________ I'll blow a hole in your face then go inside and sleep like a baby.


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10-10-2004, 02:26 AM	#1
D-Shiznit Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	Hello V-Techians. I've got a 90 Accord, F22 that has almost 200k mi. I've already got $4000 invested into a custom-welded catback exhust, sick 17'' Motegi 7 points, a killer JL sound system that I custom installed myself, and close to $1600 into new brake pads, shoes, drums, calipers, re-calibrated rotors, and brand new joints all the way around. Needless to say after this kind of time and $ into it I'm not in the market for a different auto. This is my first Honda and my first import for that matter and I have done all the mods myself with the exception of the welded exhust(I don't weld). The only other real mods on the Engine are a wimpy universal air intake, a vacuum hose dress-up kit, a red top Optima battery, and Bosch Platinum 4 plugs and (lifetime warr.) wires. I am badly in need of struts/springs but that is a whole different threadpost. My main question is since most of my eng. mods would definately transfer to the H22 is that my only real option for a swap or could a B18C or K-series swap be a possibility? Another question is if I go with the H22 swap I was told that a supercharger is out of the question since there isn't enough room between the motor and firewall. I'm not exactly crushed by this news since I can't afford one anyway but if a s-charger won't fit than will a turbo fit? If not would it fit on one of the more difficult B or K series(if applicable?) swaps? I'm looking for the most possible hp whp gain without messing with the V-Tech internals. Also, what bolt-ons would be to my benifit with or w/out the turbo app.(besides exhust of coarse)? Keep in mind that after the eng swap and possible turbo install my pocketbook will be extremely thin. Oh, just one more question guys: Is my manual F22 trans able to match up perfectly with the H22, B18C, & K20A or 23? Thank you ahead of time for any and all helpful input and advice. ------- D-Shiznit -------

10-20-2004, 03:30 AM	#7
H22AdelSol Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: san diego, california Posts: 505 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 18	Why would you even consider putting anything other than an h22 in it? If youve got the money, have someone make you mounts for K. __________________ <span style=\'color:red\'><span style=\'font-family:Geneva\'>94 JDM H22A\|5spd-LSD\|GSR Spec Brembo Cross Drilled and Slotted Rotors\| GSR Front Calipers\| SS Lines\|Tokico Illumina Struts\| Skunk2 Coilovers\| AEM Fuel Rail\| ACT Stage 3 Clutch /w Xtreme Pressure Plate\| 8lb Kaiten Kairu Super Flywheel</span></span>

10-30-2004, 09:30 AM	#8
78civic Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 291 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 14	Recked... Do you have any info on installing a turbo setup on a F22a? I have a 92 accord with only 120k miles and it looks like there would be plenty of room.. Was thinking of the H22 swap, but if I can have it done in a weekend... And for less cash, that would be easier than a full swap. Around here, you could run around with a 'partial' exhaust for a while.. New here, but been messin with Hondas since the late 70s I've had dozens and dozens of 'em... Thanks.. E __________________ "If you can read, thank a teacher" "If you can read it in English, thank a VET"

10-31-2004, 11:01 AM	#10
driver1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,978 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 33	[quote=78civic,Oct 30 2004, 08:30 AM] Recked... Do you have any info on installing a turbo setup on a F22a? I have a 92 accord with only 120k miles and it looks like there would be plenty of room.. dont threadjack...start your own thread for your own questions __________________ 94 Honda Accord, jdm h22 swapped daily driver 04 cbr600rr fun toy 95 toyota tacoma, lifted winter truck

10-31-2004, 11:20 AM	#11
smooth95 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: South Cali Posts: 325 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 16	You should probably stick with the h22 swap for now that would be your best bet and later down the road turbo it __________________ <span style=\"color:red\">95 Accord JDM H22 swap LSD tranny Apex-i N1 exhaust 2.25 cat back, Eibach pro-kit springs Jag style tailights, AEM V2 intake DC front sway bar,Carbon fiber VIS OEM hood Carbon fiber mirrors,PSPEC short shifter Type R knob JDM 1 piece headlights,JDM stanley yellow foglights JDM rear door garnishes, JDM fenders, JDM sidemarkers Fidanza flywheel,stage 2 clutch specialties</span> 96 civic hatch usdm b18 swap dc 4-1 header password jdm power chamber carbon fiber intake AEM high flow fuel rail, RC 310cc injectors AEM fpr,hondata s200 p28,Blox intake manifold, Password jdm heatshield,spoon exhaust 2.25 all the way, spoon fin, ctr headlights, password jdm air bag block off tray jdm coinholder,00 ek tail lights,kng wires,carbon kevlar cover <img src=\"http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/smooth95/clubek.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"IPB Image\" />

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