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fast4u1991civic · 01-23-2005, 02:01 AM

Ok here is my dream. I know this has been done to a integra, now its my turn to do this to a civic hatchback. Would it be possible for me to take the rear driveline out of a 4WD 1991 civic wagon and put it into a 1991 hatchback and then take a B20Z out of a 2001 crv with trany and have a custom drive shaft made to connect to the rear differential. I have more than enough funds to have parts fabricated and purchase all equipment. I just want a second opinion. CAN IT BE DONE

brian11to1 · 01-23-2005, 02:14 AM

OMGHI2U.

ANYTHING CAN BE DONE WITH ENOUGH MONEY AND TIME. Why dont you just duplicated what Honda Tuning did? And you dont know what Im talking about... subscribe to HT.

Citizen_Insane · 01-23-2005, 12:39 PM

Can't do that. The CRV tranny only sends up to 10% power to the rear wheels only when the front wheels are slipping. You'd have better luck if you used an s2000 engine/tranny combo, or some other FR engine. You will need a tranny desigend for RWD.

lude9593 · 01-23-2005, 01:25 PM

i think it'd be equally as cool to have a monster RWD hatchback. you oughta swap a force-fed s2k motor in it. just my opinion

swanny · 01-23-2005, 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by lude9593@Jan 23 2005, 02:25 PM
i think it'd be equally as cool to have a monster RWD hatchback. you oughta swap a force-fed s2k motor in it. just my opinion

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it's in the works, not a F20C, but a SR20DET http://www.hondaswap.com/forums/index.php?...opic=48327&st=0

K2e2vin · 01-23-2005, 03:12 PM

its already done to a crx! should be about the same as the hatch

ill find the link. turbo gsr awd civic...

K2e2vin · 01-23-2005, 03:13 PM

http://public.fotki.com/morgie/qsr/crx_gsr_awd_turbo/

7 second 1/8th i think is what hes running.

brian11to1 · 01-23-2005, 03:14 PM

I really think it would be a waste of time.

SlushboxTeggy · 01-23-2005, 03:18 PM

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Originally posted by ktanaka@Jan 23 2005, 12:39 PM
Can't do that. The CRV tranny only sends up to 10% power to the rear wheels only when the front wheels are slipping. You'd have better luck if you used an s2000 engine/tranny combo, or some other FR engine. You will need a tranny desigend for RWD.

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read honda tuning, then tell him it cant be done.

brian11to1 · 01-23-2005, 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by sLuShBoXtEgGy+Jan 23 2005, 03:18 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(sLuShBoXtEgG y @ Jan 23 2005, 03:18 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-ktanaka@Jan 23 2005, 12:39 PM
Can't do that. The CRV tranny only sends up to 10% power to the rear wheels only when the front wheels are slipping. You'd have better luck if you used an s2000 engine/tranny combo, or some other FR engine. You will need a tranny desigend for RWD.

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read honda tuning, then tell him it cant be done.

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EXACTLY...

StarBellieAngel · 01-23-2005, 06:04 PM

it's been done to a teg? weak sauce.

brian11to1 · 01-23-2005, 06:28 PM

Yes a GSR... There are more than one 94 plus Integra's that are AWD... or at least RWD.

cycloneb18c3 · 01-23-2005, 06:56 PM

if you want to make it RWD or AWD you should put it on a frame or tube chassis. It makes it a lot easier.

ford ranger frame
+
Civic body
+
460 from ford racing with 625hp/600ft lbs torque
+
supercharger
=
tire shredding 9 second civic hybrid.....
and it'll only cost you about 15 grand....

swanny · 01-23-2005, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cycloneb18c3@Jan 23 2005, 07:56 PM
if you want to make it RWD or AWD you should put it on a frame or tube chassis. It makes it a lot easier.

ford ranger frame
+
Civic body
+
460 from ford racing with 625hp/600ft lbs torque
+
supercharger
=
tire shredding 9 second civic hybrid.....
and it'll only cost you about 15 grand....

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A ford frame with a civic body? thats like a monkey fucking a football.

hcivic.com · 01-23-2005, 09:12 PM

would would you use a pos ford motor?

get a man motor 502 chevy big block 502hp 567 trq and my cost 1600 bucks plus tax only 5 weeks left till it sitting in my garage

fast4u1991civic · 01-24-2005, 01:35 AM

Well I am buying the wagon rear end tommrow and getting a striped hatch frame also, I will be building up the block for turbo, sleeves, built head, etc. I already have the motor and tranny and will me sending the tranny off to a tranny shop to see waht they can do about the power transfer and to see if the internals can be built up. I will start the project in about a month. and will be including a step by step howto along with a dvd. If anyone has any input that would help please let me know. Thanks for all the great comments.

Dustin_m · 01-24-2005, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hcivic.com@Jan 23 2005, 09:12 PM
would would you use a pos ford motor?

get a man motor 502 chevy big block 502hp 567 trq and my cost 1600 bucks plus tax only 5 weeks left till it sitting in my garage

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WTF you got your 502 for that much? Damn i need one for my '71 truck. i would spend almost that much just building my 350 for only like 400 hp

racingtopher · 01-25-2005, 02:11 PM

Why don't you get the 4dr civic from europe ore something. they had an awd civic that was not a wagon.

reckedracing · 01-25-2005, 02:36 PM

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A ford frame with a civic body? thats like a monkey fucking a football.

bahahahahaha

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Well I am buying the wagon rear end tommrow and getting a striped hatch frame also, I will be building up the block for turbo, sleeves, built head, etc. I already have the motor and tranny and will me sending the tranny off to a tranny shop to see waht they can do about the power transfer and to see if the internals can be built up. I will start the project in about a month. and will be including a step by step howto along with a dvd. If anyone has any input that would help please let me know. Thanks for all the great comments.

where do you work? what do you do? and how much do you make?
i would guess an exec to have the kind of funds for this, but then i don't think you'd be dumb enough to throw the money away
sounds like one hell of a project though
keep us updated

fast4u1991civic · 01-25-2005, 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by reckedracing@Jan 25 2005, 02:36 PM
where do you work? what do you do? and how much do you make?
i would guess an exec to have the kind of funds for this, but then i don't think you'd be dumb enough to throw the money away
sounds like one hell of a project though
keep us updated

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I work on the electronic aviation controls on boieng air planes. I make a 6 figure income. This has been a dream of mine since I have owned the hatch. for 4 years now I have been dreaming this up.

01-23-2005, 02:14 AM	#2
brian11to1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,000 iTrader: 2 / 100% Rep Power: 111	OMGHI2U. ANYTHING CAN BE DONE WITH ENOUGH MONEY AND TIME. Why dont you just duplicated what Honda Tuning did? And you dont know what Im talking about... subscribe to HT. __________________ 90 Integra Sedan B20V 225 / 153 I DO NOT answer tech questions via PM. Use the forums!!!

01-23-2005, 12:39 PM	#3
Citizen_Insane Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 3,701 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 51	Can't do that. The CRV tranny only sends up to 10% power to the rear wheels only when the front wheels are slipping. You'd have better luck if you used an s2000 engine/tranny combo, or some other FR engine. You will need a tranny desigend for RWD. __________________ No tech questions through PM please! B16 CRX....you will be missed

01-23-2005, 01:25 PM	#4
lude9593 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mt. Pleasant, NC Posts: 299 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 13	i think it'd be equally as cool to have a monster RWD hatchback. you oughta swap a force-fed s2k motor in it. just my opinion __________________ '95 Prelude SE AEM Intake, DC Sports Header & Cat-back, Exedy Stage 1 clutch, Fidanza lightweight flywheel. 9.734 @ 72.913 MPH (1/8th)

01-23-2005, 03:12 PM	#6
K2e2vin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC Age: 22 Posts: 6,360 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: 88 Honda Civic HB Rep Power: 150	its already done to a crx! should be about the same as the hatch ill find the link. turbo gsr awd civic... __________________ 1988 Honda Civic Standard-more mods than I want to list 1992 Honda Accord LX 1996 Toyota Avalon-Spun bearing, for sale. Terrorists have successfully attacked our imagination. RIP Jon Eban Nie, August 31, 1991 - May 7, 2006 Y-Daniel Siu Eban, September 7, 1986 - May 7, 2006

01-23-2005, 03:13 PM	#7
K2e2vin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC Age: 22 Posts: 6,360 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: 88 Honda Civic HB Rep Power: 150	http://public.fotki.com/morgie/qsr/crx_gsr_awd_turbo/ 7 second 1/8th i think is what hes running. __________________ 1988 Honda Civic Standard-more mods than I want to list 1992 Honda Accord LX 1996 Toyota Avalon-Spun bearing, for sale. Terrorists have successfully attacked our imagination. RIP Jon Eban Nie, August 31, 1991 - May 7, 2006 Y-Daniel Siu Eban, September 7, 1986 - May 7, 2006


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01-23-2005, 02:01 AM	#1
fast4u1991civic Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 8 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	Ok here is my dream. I know this has been done to a integra, now its my turn to do this to a civic hatchback. Would it be possible for me to take the rear driveline out of a 4WD 1991 civic wagon and put it into a 1991 hatchback and then take a B20Z out of a 2001 crv with trany and have a custom drive shaft made to connect to the rear differential. I have more than enough funds to have parts fabricated and purchase all equipment. I just want a second opinion. CAN IT BE DONE

01-23-2005, 03:14 PM	#8
brian11to1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,000 iTrader: 2 / 100% Rep Power: 111	I really think it would be a waste of time. __________________ 90 Integra Sedan B20V 225 / 153 I DO NOT answer tech questions via PM. Use the forums!!!

01-23-2005, 06:04 PM	#11
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01-23-2005, 06:28 PM	#12
brian11to1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,000 iTrader: 2 / 100% Rep Power: 111	Yes a GSR... There are more than one 94 plus Integra's that are AWD... or at least RWD. __________________ 90 Integra Sedan B20V 225 / 153 I DO NOT answer tech questions via PM. Use the forums!!!

01-23-2005, 06:56 PM	#13
cycloneb18c3 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 23 Posts: 1,056 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 23	if you want to make it RWD or AWD you should put it on a frame or tube chassis. It makes it a lot easier. ford ranger frame + Civic body + 460 from ford racing with 625hp/600ft lbs torque + supercharger = tire shredding 9 second civic hybrid..... and it'll only cost you about 15 grand.... __________________ whoever said nothing is impossible, never tried slamming a revolving door

01-23-2005, 09:12 PM	#15
hcivic.com Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Calgary Alberta canada Posts: 4,577 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 59	would would you use a pos ford motor? get a man motor 502 chevy big block 502hp 567 trq and my cost 1600 bucks plus tax only 5 weeks left till it sitting in my garage

01-24-2005, 01:35 AM	#16
fast4u1991civic Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 8 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	Well I am buying the wagon rear end tommrow and getting a striped hatch frame also, I will be building up the block for turbo, sleeves, built head, etc. I already have the motor and tranny and will me sending the tranny off to a tranny shop to see waht they can do about the power transfer and to see if the internals can be built up. I will start the project in about a month. and will be including a step by step howto along with a dvd. If anyone has any input that would help please let me know. Thanks for all the great comments.

01-25-2005, 02:11 PM	#18
racingtopher Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 91 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 13	Why don't you get the 4dr civic from europe ore something. they had an awd civic that was not a wagon.

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