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BonesZ33 · 07-24-2009, 11:20 PM

Well i have a 1991 integra DA..

I recently put my 96 b18b1 turbo motor in it.. everything went pretty smooth it starts up fine.( I still need new intake piping)

I got pretty much everything all sorted out except for the clutch cable.

I am using the 96 LS hydro tranny.. i have a competition stage 5 clutch and a lightweight flywheel in it. So i bought a cable to hydro conversion

The clutch worked fine for about 30 minutes ( probably about 50 clutch uses) And than this happened.

The plastic screw that goes on the plastic threads to adjust the clutch cable snapped off making the clutch useless.. The competition clutch is extremely stiff.. so i would like to explore other options rather than changing OEM plastic clutch cables every 100 miles

So I am here for these questions:

Is there an aftermarket clutch cable with METAL threads and adjustment screw?

Is a complete Hydro clutch assembly ( clutch pedals, cylinder, and lines) able to fit from a 94 integra into a DA? has it been done before?.. The slave cylinder lines up the the tranny.. and lines can be made or bent to fit the DA.. so the problem is the actual pedals and clutch master cylinder fitting.. are the pedals bolt on? the clearance of the slave cylinder looked tight but i could do some cutting possibly.. ?

I have looked into the other version of the hydro conversion.. But this version still utilizes a cable and plastic threads.. Even though this version might ease clutch petal stress .. i am not willing to pay 250$ to "chance" if the plastic screw will break again on my stage 5 clutch.

I really don't want to hear "get a cable tranny:.. because i already have one.. i just don't feel like spending 600 dollars on a new flywheel and clutch.. Plus the labor of doing a tranny swap after having my motor out already..

Any professional experience on these matters would be greatly appreciated thanks

You can reach me at AIM : Beretta2211 if possible

- Will

BonesZ33 · 07-26-2009, 04:45 PM

408Projects · 07-26-2009, 06:48 PM

i would also want to know. ive have had the same ?'s.. but i cut 2' hole and welded two pin like 12 mm bolts into the inside of the firewall, and mybe i could bolt up the clutch booster. but i have no idea how it would really work. i have time.. s0o if anyone could help please so. thank you

BonesZ33 · 07-26-2009, 07:22 PM

i am wanting to know how integra DC (94+) pedal assebly would fit into the DA.. im sure i could make the clutch master cylinder fit if the pedals fit

Anybody have any for sale for cheap?

BonesZ33 · 07-27-2009, 01:19 PM

BUMP.. this topic needs to be covered

BonesZ33 · 07-27-2009, 04:18 PM

nobody know of any clutch cables made with METAL threads? instead of plastic

BonesZ33 · 07-27-2009, 08:21 PM

I basically just used about 7 or 8 hose clamps and tightened them where the black plastic screw would be.. its holding up for now........... anybody else have any other ideas on this topic?

Ncsi · 07-28-2009, 08:56 AM

Bump For my boy!

BonesZ33 · 07-28-2009, 05:14 PM

Thanks Bryan...

I can't believe nobody has any insight on this issue..

Ncsi · 07-29-2009, 08:54 AM

Lets hope my shit is good with my stage3.....Wtf people give this man a hand! Dont you wanna see this beast on the road? borg warner turbo 18psi ls?

B · 07-29-2009, 01:16 PM

interesting topic... i don't have much experience in this realm. in for the read to learn.

CAFROG · 07-29-2009, 02:57 PM

You could easily buy a brake line bender and the correct size line. Mount a master cylinder (probably need to cut the holes for the shaft and two mounting holes) Bend the line to go on other side of firewall and eventually to the slave cylinder. I have bent brake lines with my dad on various hot rods. Not that hard at all. The tool is pretty cheap (need a pipe cutter and flare tool as well) Just get the correct fittings for slave and master cylinders. The cylinders are pretty cheap too

Or you can just get a cable LS transmission.

BonesZ33 · 07-29-2009, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAFROG

You could easily buy a brake line bender and the correct size line. Mount a master cylinder (probably need to cut the holes for the shaft and two mounting holes) Bend the line to go on other side of firewall and eventually to the slave cylinder. I have bent brake lines with my dad on various hot rods. Not that hard at all. The tool is pretty cheap (need a pipe cutter and flare tool as well) Just get the correct fittings for slave and master cylinders. The cylinders are pretty cheap too

Or you can just get a cable LS transmission.

Thanks for the advice.. I'm not really worried about the lines.. im more worried about swaping the pedal assembly and CMC.. i will be willing to cut metal and make sure the CMC fits on the firewall.. The real question is..

Has anybody ever swapped pedal assemblies from a DC to DA.. will it work.. If anybody has a cheap DC pedal assembly they are willing to let go let me know and i can do some fitting i suppose.

I already have a cable LS tranny but what i don't have is the 600 dollar clutch and flywheel setup for it like my hydro tranny.

mdpsEG · 07-29-2009, 05:18 PM

are all DAs cable clutch? for some reason i was thinking the 92-93 ones were hydro. if so that would obviously make things easier. i assume you already researched this...

also, are you sure there are no cable transmissions that are compatible with your clutch/flywheel? there are two different size shaft cable trannys, and i thought the bigger spline one was compatible with hydro... but i could be wrong.

anyways this is an interesting subject id like to know more about, so im in for the read as well.

Uno Sol · 07-29-2009, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdpsEG

are all DAs cable clutch? for some reason i was thinking the 92-93 ones were hydro. if so that would obviously make things easier. i assume you already researched this...

also, are you sure there are no cable transmissions that are compatible with your clutch/flywheel? there are two different size shaft cable trannys, and i thought the bigger spline one was compatible with hydro... but i could be wrong.

anyways this is an interesting subject id like to know more about, so im in for the read as well.

92-93 Da's still came with Cable clutch, As far as spline count and the 92-93 clutch working on a 96 hydro tranny, I'm not 100% sure but it's worth and shot if you go that rout.

BonesZ33 · 07-29-2009, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uno Sol

92-93 Da's still came with Cable clutch, As far as spline count and the 92-93 clutch working on a 96 hydro tranny, I'm not 100% sure but it's worth and shot if you go that rout.

Yes, this is correct.

I am certain that the 90-91 b18a1 integra clutches are different from the 92-93 clutches.. However i am not certain if the 92-93 is compatiable with the 94+ trannys... This is besides the point though since i have a 91 LS tranny

I have learned to drive with no clutch.. i can't believe this topic has not been covered before.. nobody knows of any clutch cables that are made of metal threads and metal adjustment screw?

mdpsEG · 07-30-2009, 07:06 AM

i used to have problems with breaking the oem clutch cables on my last DA (had a beefy clutch). it would break a cable every 6 months or so and i was never able to find any sort of stronger cable. the only advice i ever got was that i need to convert to a hydraulic tranny, but i never seriously looked into that option.

Ncsi · 07-30-2009, 08:32 AM

Fuck theres gotta be a way or a stronger cable! Damn hope mine doesnt give me problems since my stg 3 6 puck is going in soon!

CAFROG · 07-31-2009, 06:45 PM

SO the splines are different count? That connects the flywheel? That does throw a wrench into the system .

Can you change out the main shaft then? With that big dog clutch.....and people saying they break the cable with hefty clutches....
I say looking into a new pedal assembly and running hydro lines is the way to go. or maybe the stage 3 clutch will be more tame
and you have to change cables a few times a year.

BonesZ33 · 08-01-2009, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAFROG

SO the splines are different count? That connects the flywheel? That does throw a wrench into the system .

Can you change out the main shaft then? With that big dog clutch.....and people saying they break the cable with hefty clutches....
I say looking into a new pedal assembly and running hydro lines is the way to go. or maybe the stage 3 clutch will be more tame
and you have to change cables a few times a year.

That is why i am here seeing if it is possible to do this but nobody has an insight on this topic...

CAFROG · 08-01-2009, 11:55 PM

If you have access to a decent Honda recycler then (if it was me) have them show the two pedal assemblies to you
or just find a cheap hydro set up and see if she is a direct fit for mounting. (I think you might get lucky) Mounting the
Clutch Master Cylinder difficulty level will only be found once the pedals are mounted and you can see if you have a
flat vertical surface to drill the three holes through the firewall. This whole excersion and change over is rare....(or seems so to me)
so you might be venturing into new territory.

BonesZ33 · 08-03-2009, 02:07 AM

^^ Yes that is what i am about to do.. i have the cable setup for temporary use right now and i am shifting without a clutch.. it is only temporary..still open for ideas about stronger cables and more info on the hydro pedal swap

skellagher · 08-03-2009, 05:59 PM

guys check this out...
http://www.innovativemounts.com/Prod...ductCode=41001

LOWLIFE · 08-03-2009, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skellagher

guys check this out...
http://www.innovativemounts.com/Prod...ductCode=41001

i came across something like that before...

it would be a better idea than a full pedal swap and you could still mount it pretty much anywhere you can get your cable clutch to go so it gives you lots of options in a crowded engine bay as you can just run hardline or steel braided line to where you need.

BonesZ33 · 08-03-2009, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skellagher

guys check this out...
http://www.innovativemounts.com/Prod...ductCode=41001

I've already considered this.. But since it also relies on the stock clutch cable to operate so i'd rather look for other options

07-24-2009, 11:20 PM	#1
BonesZ33 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Burlington, NC Age: 22 Posts: 22 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: FD3S rx7 Rep Power: 1	Clutch cable help .. Cable to Hydro Integra Well i have a 1991 integra DA.. I recently put my 96 b18b1 turbo motor in it.. everything went pretty smooth it starts up fine.( I still need new intake piping) I got pretty much everything all sorted out except for the clutch cable. I am using the 96 LS hydro tranny.. i have a competition stage 5 clutch and a lightweight flywheel in it. So i bought a cable to hydro conversion The clutch worked fine for about 30 minutes ( probably about 50 clutch uses) And than this happened. The plastic screw that goes on the plastic threads to adjust the clutch cable snapped off making the clutch useless.. The competition clutch is extremely stiff.. so i would like to explore other options rather than changing OEM plastic clutch cables every 100 miles So I am here for these questions: Is there an aftermarket clutch cable with METAL threads and adjustment screw? Is a complete Hydro clutch assembly ( clutch pedals, cylinder, and lines) able to fit from a 94 integra into a DA? has it been done before?.. The slave cylinder lines up the the tranny.. and lines can be made or bent to fit the DA.. so the problem is the actual pedals and clutch master cylinder fitting.. are the pedals bolt on? the clearance of the slave cylinder looked tight but i could do some cutting possibly.. ? I have looked into the other version of the hydro conversion.. But this version still utilizes a cable and plastic threads.. Even though this version might ease clutch petal stress .. i am not willing to pay 250$ to "chance" if the plastic screw will break again on my stage 5 clutch. I really don't want to hear "get a cable tranny:.. because i already have one.. i just don't feel like spending 600 dollars on a new flywheel and clutch.. Plus the labor of doing a tranny swap after having my motor out already.. Any professional experience on these matters would be greatly appreciated thanks You can reach me at AIM : Beretta2211 if possible - Will

07-29-2009, 02:57 PM	#12
CAFROG Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NOR-CAL Age: 33 Posts: 978 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '92 Hatch si w/B16 (wannabe EG6) Rep Power: 26	You could easily buy a brake line bender and the correct size line. Mount a master cylinder (probably need to cut the holes for the shaft and two mounting holes) Bend the line to go on other side of firewall and eventually to the slave cylinder. I have bent brake lines with my dad on various hot rods. Not that hard at all. The tool is pretty cheap (need a pipe cutter and flare tool as well) Just get the correct fittings for slave and master cylinders. The cylinders are pretty cheap too Or you can just get a cable LS transmission. __________________ "Meow, you know how fast your were going back there?" http://hondaswap.com/hybrid-eg-ek-dc...si-b16-286581/

07-31-2009, 06:45 PM	#19
CAFROG Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NOR-CAL Age: 33 Posts: 978 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '92 Hatch si w/B16 (wannabe EG6) Rep Power: 26	SO the splines are different count? That connects the flywheel? That does throw a wrench into the system . Can you change out the main shaft then? With that big dog clutch.....and people saying they break the cable with hefty clutches.... I say looking into a new pedal assembly and running hydro lines is the way to go. or maybe the stage 3 clutch will be more tame and you have to change cables a few times a year. __________________ "Meow, you know how fast your were going back there?" http://hondaswap.com/hybrid-eg-ek-dc...si-b16-286581/

08-01-2009, 11:55 PM	#21
CAFROG Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NOR-CAL Age: 33 Posts: 978 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '92 Hatch si w/B16 (wannabe EG6) Rep Power: 26	If you have access to a decent Honda recycler then (if it was me) have them show the two pedal assemblies to you or just find a cheap hydro set up and see if she is a direct fit for mounting. (I think you might get lucky) Mounting the Clutch Master Cylinder difficulty level will only be found once the pedals are mounted and you can see if you have a flat vertical surface to drill the three holes through the firewall. This whole excersion and change over is rare....(or seems so to me) so you might be venturing into new territory. __________________ "Meow, you know how fast your were going back there?" http://hondaswap.com/hybrid-eg-ek-dc...si-b16-286581/

08-03-2009, 05:59 PM	#23
skellagher Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Newark, De Posts: 131 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90 civic ex 4 dr B16 Rep Power: 6	guys check this out... http://www.innovativemounts.com/Prod...ductCode=41001 __________________ 1993 Chevy Corsica...R.I.P 1990 Plymouth Acclaim...R.I.P 1991 Ford Mustang 4cyl...SOLD 1993 Buick Regal ...SOLD 1993 Taurus S.H.O...R.I.P 1986 Olds Cutlass...R.I.P 1991 Integra ls special...R.I.P 1997 Integra ls auto...R.I.P 1989 Integra ls...R.I.P 1988 Ford Thunderbird 5.0...SOLD 1993 240Sx ...SOLD 1995 Civic D15b7 mini me w/ z6 head ......R.I.P 1994 Civic EX Coupe ... In middle of 5 speed swap..R.I.P 1988 Civic Dx d16y7... SOLD 1990 Civic Ex B16 "with a single intake cam"<~~~CURRENT


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07-26-2009, 04:45 PM	#2
BonesZ33 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Burlington, NC Age: 22 Posts: 22 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: FD3S rx7 Rep Power: 1	Bump

07-26-2009, 06:48 PM	#3
408Projects JDM- Project Eg6 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 26 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: Eg6 Rep Power: 0	i would also want to know. ive have had the same ?'s.. but i cut 2' hole and welded two pin like 12 mm bolts into the inside of the firewall, and mybe i could bolt up the clutch booster. but i have no idea how it would really work. i have time.. s0o if anyone could help please so. thank you

07-26-2009, 07:22 PM	#4
BonesZ33 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Burlington, NC Age: 22 Posts: 22 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: FD3S rx7 Rep Power: 1	i am wanting to know how integra DC (94+) pedal assebly would fit into the DA.. im sure i could make the clutch master cylinder fit if the pedals fit Anybody have any for sale for cheap?

07-27-2009, 01:19 PM	#5
BonesZ33 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Burlington, NC Age: 22 Posts: 22 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: FD3S rx7 Rep Power: 1	BUMP.. this topic needs to be covered

07-27-2009, 04:18 PM	#6
BonesZ33 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Burlington, NC Age: 22 Posts: 22 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: FD3S rx7 Rep Power: 1	nobody know of any clutch cables made with METAL threads? instead of plastic

07-27-2009, 08:21 PM	#7
BonesZ33 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Burlington, NC Age: 22 Posts: 22 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: FD3S rx7 Rep Power: 1	I basically just used about 7 or 8 hose clamps and tightened them where the black plastic screw would be.. its holding up for now........... anybody else have any other ideas on this topic?

07-28-2009, 08:56 AM	#8
Ncsi Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Age: 23 Posts: 18 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 1	Bump For my boy!

07-28-2009, 05:14 PM	#9
BonesZ33 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Burlington, NC Age: 22 Posts: 22 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: FD3S rx7 Rep Power: 1	Thanks Bryan... I can't believe nobody has any insight on this issue..

07-29-2009, 08:54 AM	#10
Ncsi Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Age: 23 Posts: 18 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 1	Lets hope my shit is good with my stage3.....Wtf people give this man a hand! Dont you wanna see this beast on the road? borg warner turbo 18psi ls?

07-29-2009, 05:18 PM	#14
mdpsEG Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: north palm beach, FL Age: 29 Posts: 881 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: JRSC B20/vtec DC, Nissan Xterra SE Rep Power: 43	are all DAs cable clutch? for some reason i was thinking the 92-93 ones were hydro. if so that would obviously make things easier. i assume you already researched this... also, are you sure there are no cable transmissions that are compatible with your clutch/flywheel? there are two different size shaft cable trannys, and i thought the bigger spline one was compatible with hydro... but i could be wrong. anyways this is an interesting subject id like to know more about, so im in for the read as well.

07-30-2009, 07:06 AM	#17
mdpsEG Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: north palm beach, FL Age: 29 Posts: 881 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: JRSC B20/vtec DC, Nissan Xterra SE Rep Power: 43	i used to have problems with breaking the oem clutch cables on my last DA (had a beefy clutch). it would break a cable every 6 months or so and i was never able to find any sort of stronger cable. the only advice i ever got was that i need to convert to a hydraulic tranny, but i never seriously looked into that option.

07-30-2009, 08:32 AM	#18
Ncsi Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Age: 23 Posts: 18 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 1	Fuck theres gotta be a way or a stronger cable! Damn hope mine doesnt give me problems since my stg 3 6 puck is going in soon!

08-03-2009, 02:07 AM	#22
BonesZ33 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Burlington, NC Age: 22 Posts: 22 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: FD3S rx7 Rep Power: 1	^^ Yes that is what i am about to do.. i have the cable setup for temporary use right now and i am shifting without a clutch.. it is only temporary..still open for ideas about stronger cables and more info on the hydro pedal swap

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