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riceracerex · 11-04-2009, 08:02 PM

Haha, I am the one setting the rev limits. My dad works at a Machine shop that deals with V8's and Racing Engines so I may be able to talk him into it. I only run 91 and that's all I can find around here.

INJEN78 · 11-05-2009, 09:48 AM

there ya go..pull the block..let it season and have it done..

riceracerex · 11-05-2009, 04:47 PM

So seriously, just let it set through the winter?

INJEN78 · 11-05-2009, 05:36 PM

yes..take the pistons,rods,crank out,drain all the fluid out of it..and wipe all the oil off the walls..let it sit outside for awhile..the only thing is you gotta make sure that water doesnt get inside anywhere that it could plug up and freeze..because when water freezes it expands and when it expands itll crack the block...like if a little bit gets on the walls its fine..just make sure it doesnt fill the whole cylinder..your best bet would be to put it in the ocean(i know it sounds sooo retarded) but the ocean doesnt freeze.

TurboMirage · 11-05-2009, 06:02 PM

let it season?? wtf?

INJEN78 · 11-05-2009, 07:09 PM

the engine has already been through the heat cycles involved in seasoning..so now you let it sit and the temp changes will "cure" or "settle" the metal...i swear on anything this is an actual block building process..i can probably dig up some articles..and if you dont believe me call L&L auto machine in groton CT...or Larrys in CT...

INJEN78 · 11-05-2009, 07:16 PM

Mysterious Processes, Proven Results: Engine Builder
scroll down to "stress relief"

riceracerex · 11-05-2009, 08:37 PM

Thanks for the link adding more crazy shit I am going to try in this epic thread. What if I wrapped it in plastic and let it set outside under the porch? I am almost finished with cleaning the block, just picked some pb blaster up from wal-mart.

INJEN78 · 11-05-2009, 10:10 PM

no need for the plastic..as long as water doesnt fill the water jackets,oil ports,and cylinders then its all good..like if it gets wet its ok..just dont let the water fill and freeze..

riceracerex · 11-05-2009, 11:47 PM

Aight, I will finish cleaning it up and set it out until it's time to assemble. Friend just ripped apart his old d15 and we plan on doing the same since his has been sitting around outside for about 6 months now.

riceracerex · 11-07-2009, 01:06 AM

Well me & my homie spent an hour trying to pull one of the Pistons & Rod out of his d15 and he finally got the idea to hone the cylinder out and try again. It worked and we hauled all our shit to the car wash since we don't have a pressure washer. It got most of the oil and grease off and his looks pretty clean but I still have a shit ton of black paint on mine in places. Here are the latest pics!

His D15B2:

After we took it apart:

Tools Used:

Block:

Side:

Car Wash!:

D15:

D16:

Toys:

In the Hatch:

Airing it all out:

INJEN78 · 11-07-2009, 11:40 AM

that crank is probably gong to be junk now..and the oil pump/pickup..
lol all i said was to do the block

riceracerex · 11-07-2009, 01:49 PM

My friends D15 crank, I am using the one from my a6. It's still in the engine running my crx daily. Scare you?

INJEN78 · 11-07-2009, 04:47 PM

lol nope..jus figured u fucked urself

riceracerex · 11-07-2009, 04:50 PM

So what is wrong with getting water on the cranks anyways?

INJEN78 · 11-07-2009, 08:39 PM

it will rust and then you will have to get it off..most likely scratching the crank

riceracerex · 11-08-2009, 02:41 AM

Even after drying it off? That would suck, hopefully I will get mine micropolished.

riceracerex · 11-11-2009, 03:14 AM

I just seen bisimoto hit 700+hp with a D16, the days of low hp single cams are over.

INJEN78 · 11-19-2009, 08:26 PM

this thing still going?

riceracerex · 11-19-2009, 09:05 PM

Yeah, Still scraping off the black paint from the other side of the block. No aircraft stripper because haven't had the cash. Working now so will be updating more soon. I looked into a Home Made Turbo setup but it looks like ebay would actually be more worth the money. Had a tire shred last week, just replaced it, rear rotors are warped to the point it squeaks horrifically. So, I will be ordering the cross drilled & slotted for the back and maybe a wideband soon. Cash is the main reason this thread is moving so slowly. Income tax was the plan but I will be picking up lots of the smaller parts until then. Anyways, new pics will be uploaded in a few days. Does it matter what wideband you install for tuning? Bosch/Aem?

89hatchd15b · 11-19-2009, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INJEN78

Mysterious Processes, Proven Results: Engine Builder
scroll down to "stress relief"

good article. But they are saying that if you just let it sit you should let it sit for 2 years, I think that if you want to get "good" results you should do what they say. When they talk about heat and cold treatments they are all under computer controls to do it because to get a good heat/cold treatment it has to be highly precise. Good luck with that "seasoning", seems like something that would just make it so you have to clean the block again.

riceracerex · 11-19-2009, 09:45 PM

Before I got laid off I was using the Vibration method on all the large base metals that were welded to relieve stress. It was a small tool we attached to all the larger metals to keep them from warping. Worked damn good and had a meter to show when it was close to being finished, along with a timer. Seasoning through the winter and it can keep clean as long as no water gets inside and rust. They used cryogenics to flash freeze and yes it takes a lot less time than the other methods but most people do not have flash freezing or the vibration method as a resource.

INJEN78 · Yesterday, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riceracerex

Yeah, Still scraping off the black paint from the other side of the block. No aircraft stripper because haven't had the cash. Working now so will be updating more soon. I looked into a Home Made Turbo setup but it looks like ebay would actually be more worth the money. Had a tire shred last week, just replaced it, rear rotors are warped to the point it squeaks horrifically. So, I will be ordering the cross drilled & slotted for the back and maybe a wideband soon. Cash is the main reason this thread is moving so slowly. Income tax was the plan but I will be picking up lots of the smaller parts until then. Anyways, new pics will be uploaded in a few days. Does it matter what wideband you install for tuning? Bosch/Aem?

i would use an aem wideband..as for the turbo,get most of the pieces from n ebay kit and you should only really have to replace the manifold,the only real problem with the actual turbo is that the oil seals tend to go bad,but if you get it rebuilt it shouldnt be a problem..

Quote:

Originally Posted by 89hatchd15b

good article. But they are saying that if you just let it sit you should let it sit for 2 years, I think that if you want to get "good" results you should do what they say. When they talk about heat and cold treatments they are all under computer controls to do it because to get a good heat/cold treatment it has to be highly precise. Good luck with that "seasoning", seems like something that would just make it so you have to clean the block again.

seeing how hes going to have to hone the block anyway seasoning is a good idea..
and the block should be dipped as well,also 2 years isnt exactly the time it takes,thats just how long they did it for,ive seen blocks start to season over night when left open.and the heat cycle is the natural cycle of the motor..you start it,let it get up to operating temp. then shut it off and let it cool down.and then repeat 3-4 times..

riceracerex · Yesterday, 05:35 PM

Cool, the Aem Eugo seems cheaper than the LC-1 setups I have seen. Not too worried about the gauges because I will be using the laptop in the entire time I am tuning. Thanks Injen, I will get it ordered in a week or two probably.

dacheat · Yesterday, 07:17 PM

11-05-2009, 09:48 AM	#52
INJEN78 ¿GANGSTA GREMLIN? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT(860) VT(802) Age: 21 Posts: 7,730 iTrader: 5 / 100% Ride: 91 CRX si Rep Power: 214	there ya go..pull the block..let it season and have it done.. __________________ R.I.P BEN LEE2/24/08 we love and miss you http://burnoutbox.activeboard.com/in...BID=127652&p=1 GOOD FAST CHEAP, you can pick only two. fast and cheap isn't good good and cheap isn't fast good and fast isn't cheap

11-05-2009, 05:36 PM	#54
INJEN78 ¿GANGSTA GREMLIN? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT(860) VT(802) Age: 21 Posts: 7,730 iTrader: 5 / 100% Ride: 91 CRX si Rep Power: 214	yes..take the pistons,rods,crank out,drain all the fluid out of it..and wipe all the oil off the walls..let it sit outside for awhile..the only thing is you gotta make sure that water doesnt get inside anywhere that it could plug up and freeze..because when water freezes it expands and when it expands itll crack the block...like if a little bit gets on the walls its fine..just make sure it doesnt fill the whole cylinder..your best bet would be to put it in the ocean(i know it sounds sooo retarded) but the ocean doesnt freeze. __________________ R.I.P BEN LEE2/24/08 we love and miss you http://burnoutbox.activeboard.com/in...BID=127652&p=1 GOOD FAST CHEAP, you can pick only two. fast and cheap isn't good good and cheap isn't fast good and fast isn't cheap

11-05-2009, 06:02 PM	#55
TurboMirage Running on two cylinders Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southbridge, MA Age: 25 Posts: 18,155 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 2000 Mitsubishi Lancer RPW E5 Coupe Rep Power: 338	let it season?? wtf? __________________ Home of the RPW built 2000 Lancer CC Coupe. See what is done to the little Evo5. "If you don't like what I've done with my car, I will gladly refund all the money you put into it."

11-05-2009, 07:09 PM	#56
INJEN78 ¿GANGSTA GREMLIN? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT(860) VT(802) Age: 21 Posts: 7,730 iTrader: 5 / 100% Ride: 91 CRX si Rep Power: 214	the engine has already been through the heat cycles involved in seasoning..so now you let it sit and the temp changes will "cure" or "settle" the metal...i swear on anything this is an actual block building process..i can probably dig up some articles..and if you dont believe me call L&L auto machine in groton CT...or Larrys in CT... __________________ R.I.P BEN LEE2/24/08 we love and miss you http://burnoutbox.activeboard.com/in...BID=127652&p=1 GOOD FAST CHEAP, you can pick only two. fast and cheap isn't good good and cheap isn't fast good and fast isn't cheap

11-05-2009, 07:16 PM	#57
INJEN78 ¿GANGSTA GREMLIN? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT(860) VT(802) Age: 21 Posts: 7,730 iTrader: 5 / 100% Ride: 91 CRX si Rep Power: 214	Mysterious Processes, Proven Results: Engine Builder scroll down to "stress relief" __________________ R.I.P BEN LEE2/24/08 we love and miss you http://burnoutbox.activeboard.com/in...BID=127652&p=1 GOOD FAST CHEAP, you can pick only two. fast and cheap isn't good good and cheap isn't fast good and fast isn't cheap


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11-04-2009, 08:02 PM	#51
riceracerex D-Series Ninja Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Pryor, Ok Age: 23 Posts: 383 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90' Honda CRX Si Rep Power: 11	Haha, I am the one setting the rev limits. My dad works at a Machine shop that deals with V8's and Racing Engines so I may be able to talk him into it. I only run 91 and that's all I can find around here.

11-05-2009, 04:47 PM	#53
riceracerex D-Series Ninja Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Pryor, Ok Age: 23 Posts: 383 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90' Honda CRX Si Rep Power: 11	So seriously, just let it set through the winter?

11-05-2009, 08:37 PM	#58
riceracerex D-Series Ninja Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Pryor, Ok Age: 23 Posts: 383 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90' Honda CRX Si Rep Power: 11	Thanks for the link adding more crazy shit I am going to try in this epic thread. What if I wrapped it in plastic and let it set outside under the porch? I am almost finished with cleaning the block, just picked some pb blaster up from wal-mart.

11-05-2009, 10:10 PM	#59
INJEN78 ¿GANGSTA GREMLIN? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT(860) VT(802) Age: 21 Posts: 7,730 iTrader: 5 / 100% Ride: 91 CRX si Rep Power: 214	no need for the plastic..as long as water doesnt fill the water jackets,oil ports,and cylinders then its all good..like if it gets wet its ok..just dont let the water fill and freeze.. __________________ R.I.P BEN LEE2/24/08 we love and miss you http://burnoutbox.activeboard.com/in...BID=127652&p=1 GOOD FAST CHEAP, you can pick only two. fast and cheap isn't good good and cheap isn't fast good and fast isn't cheap

11-05-2009, 11:47 PM	#60
riceracerex D-Series Ninja Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Pryor, Ok Age: 23 Posts: 383 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90' Honda CRX Si Rep Power: 11	Aight, I will finish cleaning it up and set it out until it's time to assemble. Friend just ripped apart his old d15 and we plan on doing the same since his has been sitting around outside for about 6 months now.

11-07-2009, 01:06 AM	#61
riceracerex D-Series Ninja Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Pryor, Ok Age: 23 Posts: 383 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90' Honda CRX Si Rep Power: 11	Well me & my homie spent an hour trying to pull one of the Pistons & Rod out of his d15 and he finally got the idea to hone the cylinder out and try again. It worked and we hauled all our shit to the car wash since we don't have a pressure washer. It got most of the oil and grease off and his looks pretty clean but I still have a shit ton of black paint on mine in places. Here are the latest pics! His D15B2: After we took it apart: Tools Used: Block: Side: Car Wash!: D15: D16: Toys: In the Hatch: Airing it all out:

11-07-2009, 11:40 AM	#62
INJEN78 ¿GANGSTA GREMLIN? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT(860) VT(802) Age: 21 Posts: 7,730 iTrader: 5 / 100% Ride: 91 CRX si Rep Power: 214	that crank is probably gong to be junk now..and the oil pump/pickup.. lol all i said was to do the block __________________ R.I.P BEN LEE2/24/08 we love and miss you http://burnoutbox.activeboard.com/in...BID=127652&p=1 GOOD FAST CHEAP, you can pick only two. fast and cheap isn't good good and cheap isn't fast good and fast isn't cheap

11-07-2009, 01:49 PM	#63
riceracerex D-Series Ninja Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Pryor, Ok Age: 23 Posts: 383 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90' Honda CRX Si Rep Power: 11	My friends D15 crank, I am using the one from my a6. It's still in the engine running my crx daily. Scare you?

11-07-2009, 04:47 PM	#64
INJEN78 ¿GANGSTA GREMLIN? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT(860) VT(802) Age: 21 Posts: 7,730 iTrader: 5 / 100% Ride: 91 CRX si Rep Power: 214	lol nope..jus figured u fucked urself __________________ R.I.P BEN LEE2/24/08 we love and miss you http://burnoutbox.activeboard.com/in...BID=127652&p=1 GOOD FAST CHEAP, you can pick only two. fast and cheap isn't good good and cheap isn't fast good and fast isn't cheap

Yesterday, 07:17 PM	#75
dacheat ..is grounded. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: strongbadia Posts: 3,791 iTrader: 4 / 100% Ride: '84 buick (rusted) Rep Power: 268	__________________ marco....

11-07-2009, 04:50 PM	#65
riceracerex D-Series Ninja Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Pryor, Ok Age: 23 Posts: 383 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90' Honda CRX Si Rep Power: 11	So what is wrong with getting water on the cranks anyways?

11-07-2009, 08:39 PM	#66
INJEN78 ¿GANGSTA GREMLIN? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT(860) VT(802) Age: 21 Posts: 7,730 iTrader: 5 / 100% Ride: 91 CRX si Rep Power: 214	it will rust and then you will have to get it off..most likely scratching the crank __________________ R.I.P BEN LEE2/24/08 we love and miss you http://burnoutbox.activeboard.com/in...BID=127652&p=1 GOOD FAST CHEAP, you can pick only two. fast and cheap isn't good good and cheap isn't fast good and fast isn't cheap

11-08-2009, 02:41 AM	#67
riceracerex D-Series Ninja Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Pryor, Ok Age: 23 Posts: 383 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90' Honda CRX Si Rep Power: 11	Even after drying it off? That would suck, hopefully I will get mine micropolished.

11-11-2009, 03:14 AM	#68
riceracerex D-Series Ninja Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Pryor, Ok Age: 23 Posts: 383 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90' Honda CRX Si Rep Power: 11	I just seen bisimoto hit 700+hp with a D16, the days of low hp single cams are over.

11-19-2009, 08:26 PM	#69
INJEN78 ¿GANGSTA GREMLIN? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT(860) VT(802) Age: 21 Posts: 7,730 iTrader: 5 / 100% Ride: 91 CRX si Rep Power: 214	this thing still going? __________________ R.I.P BEN LEE2/24/08 we love and miss you http://burnoutbox.activeboard.com/in...BID=127652&p=1 GOOD FAST CHEAP, you can pick only two. fast and cheap isn't good good and cheap isn't fast good and fast isn't cheap

11-19-2009, 09:05 PM	#70
riceracerex D-Series Ninja Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Pryor, Ok Age: 23 Posts: 383 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90' Honda CRX Si Rep Power: 11	Yeah, Still scraping off the black paint from the other side of the block. No aircraft stripper because haven't had the cash. Working now so will be updating more soon. I looked into a Home Made Turbo setup but it looks like ebay would actually be more worth the money. Had a tire shred last week, just replaced it, rear rotors are warped to the point it squeaks horrifically. So, I will be ordering the cross drilled & slotted for the back and maybe a wideband soon. Cash is the main reason this thread is moving so slowly. Income tax was the plan but I will be picking up lots of the smaller parts until then. Anyways, new pics will be uploaded in a few days. Does it matter what wideband you install for tuning? Bosch/Aem? __________________ "¿ʞɐǝɹɟ ɐ ǝɹ,noʎ uǝɥʍ 'ʇı ʇ,usı 'ʎlǝuol s,ʇı" uɐɯ ǝlqısıʌuı uɐ ɟo sɹıoɯǝɯ ɯoɹɟ ǝʇonb ɐ ɟo pǝpuıɯǝɹ ɯ,ı

11-19-2009, 09:45 PM	#72
riceracerex D-Series Ninja Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Pryor, Ok Age: 23 Posts: 383 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90' Honda CRX Si Rep Power: 11	Before I got laid off I was using the Vibration method on all the large base metals that were welded to relieve stress. It was a small tool we attached to all the larger metals to keep them from warping. Worked damn good and had a meter to show when it was close to being finished, along with a timer. Seasoning through the winter and it can keep clean as long as no water gets inside and rust. They used cryogenics to flash freeze and yes it takes a lot less time than the other methods but most people do not have flash freezing or the vibration method as a resource. __________________ "¿ʞɐǝɹɟ ɐ ǝɹ,noʎ uǝɥʍ 'ʇı ʇ,usı 'ʎlǝuol s,ʇı" uɐɯ ǝlqısıʌuı uɐ ɟo sɹıoɯǝɯ ɯoɹɟ ǝʇonb ɐ ɟo pǝpuıɯǝɹ ɯ,ı

Yesterday, 05:35 PM	#74
riceracerex D-Series Ninja Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Pryor, Ok Age: 23 Posts: 383 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90' Honda CRX Si Rep Power: 11	Cool, the Aem Eugo seems cheaper than the LC-1 setups I have seen. Not too worried about the gauges because I will be using the laptop in the entire time I am tuning. Thanks Injen, I will get it ordered in a week or two probably. __________________ "¿ʞɐǝɹɟ ɐ ǝɹ,noʎ uǝɥʍ 'ʇı ʇ,usı 'ʎlǝuol s,ʇı" uɐɯ ǝlqısıʌuı uɐ ɟo sɹıoɯǝɯ ɯoɹɟ ǝʇonb ɐ ɟo pǝpuıɯǝɹ ɯ,ı

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