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Old 09-06-2008, 04:29 AM   #1
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Ok my friend has a d16z6 in a 91 civic hatch. The civic has the base 4spd manual tranny (I believe it's the STD model). We are having a prob finding a CRX Si tranny.

I was thinking could we use a ZC tranny w/ LSD in the Civic. I belive we have to use the Integra even axles, and DX hubs. Is this right?

does the ZC even bolt on to the d16z6 motor?
Some one school me on these trannys please
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Yes, you can use the ZC transmission with LSD in the Civic; although the (equal length) ZC axles are the correct one and DX hub is required with those axles. An alternative is just swapping out the differential in the ZC transmission for a 88-98 Si one and using the stock axles.

Yes, the ZC bolts onto the D16Z6. The ZC is pretty much a D16A6.
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Ok the DX hubs should be a easy junkyard pick-up.
On the axles we may have to buy new, I dont recall seeing any ZC's in the yard. I was hoping I could use DA axles and half shaft.

The plan is to get the ZC and then a hydro Si final drive, would the 92-95 Si FD work with the ZC LSD?
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I was hoping I could use DA axles and half shaft
the DA intermediate shaft will not work with the D-series engine - the bolt pattern where it bolts to the back of the block is different - only the JDM ZC intermediate shaft will work - also, the D16Z6 block does not have the holes tapped in the back of the block to bolt the intermediate shaft on

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The plan is to get the ZC and then a hydro Si final drive, would the 92-95 Si FD work with the ZC LSD?
the 92-95 final drive will not work in the L3 ZC transmission - you would need 88-91 Si final drive

finding a ZC transmission with LSD is going to be tough as most ZC transmissions don't have LSD
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only the JDM ZC intermediate shaft will work - also, the D16Z6 block does not have the holes tapped in the back of the block to bolt the intermediate shaft on
Yeah not having bolts for a half shaft on the Z6 motor; I should of thought of that

So if the ZC tranny intermediate shaft will work, does it not bolt to the back of the block?

Found the tranny from Hmotorsonline this is thier description:
"ZC DOHC LSD Cable Transmission - 5 Speed Trasmission, Will only work with ZC SOHC or DOHC"
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the 92-95 final drive will not work in the L3 ZC transmission - you would need 88-91 Si final drive
Actually, that is incorrect. A 92-95 differential will indeed work in a L3 transmission. I have a 92-95 EX differential in my DOHC ZC transmission and had zero issues. Just make sure it is shimmed correctly. Transzex even suggested using 92-95 differentials due to it eliminating the differential pin issues found in the 88-91 differentials.
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So if the ZC tranny intermediate shaft will work, does it not bolt to the back of the block?

Found the tranny from Hmotorsonline this is thier description:
"ZC DOHC LSD Cable Transmission - 5 Speed Trasmission, Will only work with ZC SOHC or DOHC"
The holes just don't have threads. You'd need to tap them.

Their description is somewhat true. The SOHC ZC is pretty much a D16A6, and the bolt patterns between the 88-00 D-series are the same. I have a DOHC ZC transmission mated to a D15B-VTEC...a D16Z6 "equivilant." Where the difference lays is the intermediate shaft. The ZC's already have the holes threaded and everything for the half shalf IIRC. A simple differential swap or installing a intermediate shaft will make it work.
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Actually, that is incorrect. A 92-95 differential will indeed work in a L3 transmission. I have a 92-95 EX differential in my DOHC ZC transmission and had zero issues. Just make sure it is shimmed correctly. Transzex even suggested using 92-95 differentials due to it eliminating the differential pin issues found in the 88-91 differentials.
please, don't try to correct me on something you evidently know nothing about - the question was about the 92-95 final drive, which consists of the countersahft and the ring gear, not the differential carrier - the 92-95 differential carrier will work in the L3 transmission, however the 92-95 countershaft, which is part of the final drive, will not work in the L3 transmission
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please, don't try to correct me on something you evidently know nothing about - the question was about the 92-95 final drive, which consists of the countersahft and the ring gear, not the differential carrier - the 92-95 differential carrier will work in the L3 transmission, however the 92-95 countershaft, which is part of the final drive, will not work in the L3 transmission
My apologies, I misread that. Up too late and tired after work.

I guess misreading something means I don't know shit; please disregarded all of my posts.
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