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Mike_995 · 01-24-2008, 09:21 PM

Okay fellas, in around a month I will be ordering up a B-series swap for my honda del sol. And I have been watching alot of videos and some its hard to discern the real difference between the B16 and the B18b. Some videos are different the b16 winning which is what I would expect because the JDM b16 has almost 30 hp more. However is this difference really worth the extra 500-600 $, and what have your guys experiences been like in regards to B16 vs B18b.

Thanks
Mike

93civicracer · 01-24-2008, 10:53 PM

Put the b16 vtec head on the Ls block and tune. It'll be faster than even a type r.

99sidude · 01-25-2008, 01:04 AM

The b16 has a better top end while the b18 will feel quicker during regular driving. Both in stock form in the exact chassis are a close call. Its gonna come down to the driver. Personally I'd take the b16 because it has much better gearing and a stronger bottom end.

killercannible · 01-25-2008, 02:37 AM

I smoke ls's all day with my b16 ek coupe.

Mike_995 · 01-25-2008, 08:55 AM

Alright thanks alot..... looks like Ill be getting the B16, I should feel a big difference between that and my D15B7

. Has anyone hurd of total JDM, they are based in ontario.

99sidude · 01-25-2008, 09:17 AM

I've never heard of them. I got my motor from hmotorsonline.com. Most people on this site will agree with me that they are the best.

Matts96HB · 01-25-2008, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike_995

Alright thanks alot..... looks like Ill be getting the B16, I should feel a big difference between that and my D15B7

. Has anyone hurd of total JDM, they are based in ontario.

Is this the same place as JDM-Online.com?
If so, thats where I got my engine/tranny from and I couldn't be happier.

As for the swap, I'd do the best of both worlds. B18B with a b16 tranny. You'd be suprised how much of a difference the right gearing and more torque makes.

B16RacerN2NR · 01-25-2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 93civicracer

Put the b16 vtec head on the Ls block and tune. It'll be faster than even a type r.

I stock LS/Vtec wth the best tune in the world isn't gonna be faster than a Type R motor... and don't say if you build it with this, that and the other blah blah blah... you told him to just stick the head on the block, which in turn would make it still a stock ls/vtec. With stock pistons (even with P30 pistons in the block) and stock cams you're not gonna get nearly enough power from a tune to get you even close to Type R numbers. A stock ls/vtec is usually on par with a stock GSR motor depending on what tranny you throw on the ls/vtec.

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Originally Posted by Mike_995

Alright thanks alot..... looks like Ill be getting the B16, I should feel a big difference between that and my D15B7

. Has anyone hurd of total JDM, they are based in ontario.

I believe total JDM is a vendor on this site so i'm sure they are decent. I've never dealt wit them. HMotorsOnline.com has the best vouches hands down and I can see why, seeing as how i've picked up TONS of motors from them in the past and when I go to their warehouse everything is always clean and organized. Not to mention when they run a compression test on a motor, if there is any cylinder that is even slightly low, they put that motor away and try and find you a better one. I've seen shops get no compression out of motors so they rip it apart, do a valve adjustment, make sure valves aren't sticking, ect... just pretty much do anything to get compression.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 99sidude

I got my motor from hmotorsonline.com. Most people on this site will agree with me that they are the best.

Mike_995 · 01-26-2008, 05:46 PM

Im still unsure of what im gonna do, Im kinda considering doing a b20 vtec swap, it should work out to be cheaper, and it should have around the same hp with way more tq. The only thing Im worried about with that engine, is having to swap out the rods because I doubt the stocks will take 8000 rpms.

99sidude · 01-26-2008, 07:43 PM

Get some arp rod bolts for some added assurance in the bottom end.

Mike_995 · 01-26-2008, 09:06 PM

Yea I mise well since Ill have the engine completly disasembled, ive been reading around and it seems as though the engine is fairly safe at around 8000 rpms, I just dont want to litter the ground with bits of my block.

eg6sir · 01-27-2008, 01:45 AM

a b18b w/ a GSR or type r tranny would be pretty quick.. when i start another project (CRX) .. i'm gonna swap an ls.. build it n/a for a daily..

vi3tnam3e · 05-23-2008, 10:34 AM

i have a 93 del sol with a 94 b18b1 with a 96 GSR tranny, intake and catback, i tied with a GSR Tuned with ECU Chiped in a 95 hatchback.

BrutalB83 · 05-23-2008, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by vi3tnam3e

i have a 93 del sol with a 94 b18b1 with a 96 GSR tranny, intake and catback, i tied with a GSR Tuned with ECU Chiped in a 95 hatchback.

Uh, ok? Thanks for sharing?

This thread is three months old dude, check the dates on stuff before you post...

01-24-2008, 09:21 PM	#1
Mike_995 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 68 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 94 Black Del sol,B16A2 sir, I/H/E/T..... rip built ls-v Rep Power: 6	94 Del sol B series swap, B16 vs B18B Okay fellas, in around a month I will be ordering up a B-series swap for my honda del sol. And I have been watching alot of videos and some its hard to discern the real difference between the B16 and the B18b. Some videos are different the b16 winning which is what I would expect because the JDM b16 has almost 30 hp more. However is this difference really worth the extra 500-600 $, and what have your guys experiences been like in regards to B16 vs B18b. Thanks Mike

01-25-2008, 02:37 AM	#4
killercannible Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 629 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 16	I smoke ls's all day with my b16 ek coupe. __________________ Got my swap!!! Needs to be faster.

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01-25-2008, 08:55 AM	#5
Mike_995 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 68 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 94 Black Del sol,B16A2 sir, I/H/E/T..... rip built ls-v Rep Power: 6	Alright thanks alot..... looks like Ill be getting the B16, I should feel a big difference between that and my D15B7 . Has anyone hurd of total JDM, they are based in ontario.

01-26-2008, 05:46 PM	#9
Mike_995 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 68 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 94 Black Del sol,B16A2 sir, I/H/E/T..... rip built ls-v Rep Power: 6	Im still unsure of what im gonna do, Im kinda considering doing a b20 vtec swap, it should work out to be cheaper, and it should have around the same hp with way more tq. The only thing Im worried about with that engine, is having to swap out the rods because I doubt the stocks will take 8000 rpms.

01-26-2008, 09:06 PM	#11
Mike_995 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 68 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 94 Black Del sol,B16A2 sir, I/H/E/T..... rip built ls-v Rep Power: 6	Yea I mise well since Ill have the engine completly disasembled, ive been reading around and it seems as though the engine is fairly safe at around 8000 rpms, I just dont want to litter the ground with bits of my block.

05-23-2008, 10:34 AM	#13
vi3tnam3e Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	i have a 93 del sol with a 94 b18b1 with a 96 GSR tranny, intake and catback, i tied with a GSR Tuned with ECU Chiped in a 95 hatchback.

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