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limpboy57 · 01-06-2003, 03:13 PM

I was wondering if this engine would fit in a 88-91 civic hatch, and what would i need to do to make it fit/work and also pass smog?

asmallsol · 01-06-2003, 03:32 PM

well the major problem with this engine is getting it to start in that car. Your going obd0 - obd2 big jump.

limpboy57 · 01-06-2003, 03:51 PM

obd2 big jump<----?

92b16vx · 01-06-2003, 03:53 PM

Aside from it being a pain to get wired,it is also a waste of money,for the power output,compared to what could be had for the same money.

asmallsol · 01-06-2003, 03:56 PM

I should have put a camma in there or something.

It would be alot cheap to just buy a b16aSiRI and put that in your car along with some CTR pistons, cams, valves, and valve springs in there, then you basicly have a CTR. Then if you want to go further, do a Port n Polish, get a skunk2 intake manifold and then you will be happy, plus this total thing will cost you about the same as a b16b without the hassle of putting the obd2 engine in there.

MaaseyRacer · 01-06-2003, 03:57 PM

if you are in california, it will be hard to pass smog on that motor, but you will at least be at obd2 which makes it easier to pass smog with.
good luck....

limpboy57 · 01-06-2003, 04:00 PM

thanks for the help guys, does anyone know what colorados smog laws are?

E_SolSi · 01-06-2003, 04:06 PM

http://www.aircarecolorado.com/

thats the company that handles the testing, look there

dohcvtec_accord · 01-06-2003, 04:10 PM

Where in Colorado are you?

limpboy57 · 01-06-2003, 04:14 PM

i live in colorado,springs

dohcvtec_accord · 01-06-2003, 04:15 PM

Ahh, I'm up in Schlongmont. Just curious.

prawjEKt Cx · 01-06-2003, 04:53 PM

could you even pass smog with a b16b, when they do the visual check and realize it's not a us motor.... just get a obd1 b18b or b18c1

asmallsol · 01-06-2003, 04:57 PM

you can pass a JDM engine you just have to put USDM emmissions stuff on it.

E_SolSi · 01-06-2003, 04:57 PM

most states dont care if its a USDM engine... cali is just anal about that stuff so its a bitch out there ... for most states if its the same age or newer than the car its in (a lot dont really check it) and it passes the tests then its fine

prawjEKt Cx · 01-06-2003, 05:08 PM

yeah i never really had to be up to date on my smog shit because i live in new york, and not the city either, but i am getting kinda worried about where the airforce stations me next summer, that's why i'm still driving the hell outta my stock motor.

E_SolSi · 01-06-2003, 05:24 PM

just keep your registration in the state it is in now for as long as possible... i was in the military... none of the people i know who did this had any issues... also know plenty of college students who live at school but have cars registered out of state and dont have issues with it... as long as your license is from where the car is registered no one will really care too much... flashing the military ID always helps too

92b16vx · 01-06-2003, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by E_SolSi@Jan 6 2003, 11:29 PM
just keep your registration in the state it is in now for as long as possible... i was in the military... none of the people i know who did this had any issues... also know plenty of college students who live at school but have cars registered out of state and dont have issues with it... as long as your license is from where the car is registered no one will really care too much... flashing the military ID always helps too

I'm hoping they don't give me grief when I PCS to the states and ship my car.Several people have done it so it should be ok.S

rry to get off topic,but it seems it was already

asmallsol · 01-06-2003, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 92b16vx@Jan 6 2003, 05:35 PM
I'm hoping they don't give me grief when I PCS to the states and ship my car.Several people have done it so it should be ok.S rry to get off topic,but it seems it was already

so you had your car shipped over there (germany right)? That would be sweet, plus you could find a swap over there for real cheap (no demand)

92b16vx · 01-06-2003, 05:40 PM

so you had your car shipped over there (germany right)? That would be sweet, plus you could find a swap over there for real cheap (no demand) [/quote]
Actually it's kinda weird,I got the car from a civilian contractor.He got it from a German lot,who got it from a soldier who left.It still retains it's american title so that's easy,the Germans put sidemarkers on it so those are gone when I get the time.As far as the swap,it was cheap,cheap,cheap complete VTi conversion(four point brake,sway bar the works) for 1900.Mostly Americans do swaps here,but motors are still in demand,but cheaper than the states.

asmallsol · 01-06-2003, 05:52 PM

about the side markers, they may have cut the fender to put them in, that is how i have seen them on del Sols. For 1900, that is a great deal, when are you coming back and where are you from (in the us)

92b16vx · 01-06-2003, 05:58 PM

I am worried that they cut the fenders,but chances are good that they didn't because they only have to reflect,so maybe they didn't run wires,just some 3m.I come back in June 2004.Back to Texas.

prawjEKt Cx · 01-06-2003, 08:46 PM

yeah after a year of active i'm gonna put in for japan, there's 2 AF bases on the big island... if so i'm gonna be a junkyard/ebay whore, not to mention be bringing back a REAL EK home and i can set my cx on fire.

asmallsol · 01-06-2003, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by prawjEKt Cx@Jan 6 2003, 08:51 PM
yeah after a year of active i'm gonna put in for japan, there's 2 AF bases on the big island... if so i'm gonna be a junkyard/ebay whore, not to mention be bringing back a REAL EK home and i can set my cx on fire.

If you buy a REAL EK, good luck getting it registered in the US, exspect to pay 10k+, As for being an EBAY whore and all that, hell yes, you could find a typeR engine there for under a grand and then pay 700-1000 to ship it back home, you could make some hondaswapers real happy (exspeallily the ones named asmallsol

)

prawjEKt Cx · 01-06-2003, 09:30 PM

yeah i realize the costs of getting it registered.... i was figuring you could make it past customs with it and worry about legalization ever.... you can't tell me a real ek9 wouldn't win alot of shows, just trailer the bitch everywhere.

asmallsol · 01-06-2003, 09:33 PM

yes if you make it just a trailor queen and make it past coustoms, you can do that, just cant drive it on the streets. I bet that you could even do that with a skyline. (new b. disscussion) Maybe even look at some some mugen typeR's if they are just going to be trailor queens.

01-06-2003, 03:32 PM	#2
asmallsol Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Houghton/Livonia Michigan Age: 23 Posts: 8,101 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 93 del Sol Gas sipper Rep Power: 101	well the major problem with this engine is getting it to start in that car. Your going obd0 - obd2 big jump. __________________ Collin Material Science and Engineering Michigan Technological University

01-06-2003, 03:53 PM	#4
92b16vx B happy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Location: Location: Location: Age: 38 Posts: 13,020 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: dohc 95 egg Rep Power: 186	Aside from it being a pain to get wired,it is also a waste of money,for the power output,compared to what could be had for the same money. __________________ 95 CX\|B16A2 XBL \| binary xj0hnx \| Halo 3

01-06-2003, 03:56 PM	#5
asmallsol Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Houghton/Livonia Michigan Age: 23 Posts: 8,101 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 93 del Sol Gas sipper Rep Power: 101	I should have put a camma in there or something. It would be alot cheap to just buy a b16aSiRI and put that in your car along with some CTR pistons, cams, valves, and valve springs in there, then you basicly have a CTR. Then if you want to go further, do a Port n Polish, get a skunk2 intake manifold and then you will be happy, plus this total thing will cost you about the same as a b16b without the hassle of putting the obd2 engine in there. __________________ Collin Material Science and Engineering Michigan Technological University

01-06-2003, 03:57 PM	#6
MaaseyRacer Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Francisco, Ca. Posts: 2,975 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 44	if you are in california, it will be hard to pass smog on that motor, but you will at least be at obd2 which makes it easier to pass smog with. good luck.... __________________ 2004 Toyota Tacoma 3.4L V6 TRD Package 4WD ----------------------

01-06-2003, 04:10 PM	#9
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01-06-2003, 03:13 PM	#1
limpboy57 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 9 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	I was wondering if this engine would fit in a 88-91 civic hatch, and what would i need to do to make it fit/work and also pass smog?

01-06-2003, 03:51 PM	#3
limpboy57 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 9 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	obd2 big jump<----?

01-06-2003, 04:00 PM	#7
limpboy57 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 9 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	thanks for the help guys, does anyone know what colorados smog laws are?

01-06-2003, 04:14 PM	#10
limpboy57 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 9 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	i live in colorado,springs

01-06-2003, 04:15 PM	#11
dohcvtec_accord WRX Sellout Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The left lane Age: 32 Posts: 8,498 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2002 WRB Impreza WRX Rep Power: 99	Ahh, I'm up in Schlongmont. Just curious. __________________ This space left intentionally blank.

01-06-2003, 04:53 PM	#12
prawjEKt Cx Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: upstate NY Age: 26 Posts: 551 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 20	could you even pass smog with a b16b, when they do the visual check and realize it's not a us motor.... just get a obd1 b18b or b18c1

01-06-2003, 04:57 PM	#13
asmallsol Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Houghton/Livonia Michigan Age: 23 Posts: 8,101 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 93 del Sol Gas sipper Rep Power: 101	you can pass a JDM engine you just have to put USDM emmissions stuff on it. __________________ Collin Material Science and Engineering Michigan Technological University

01-06-2003, 05:08 PM	#15
prawjEKt Cx Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: upstate NY Age: 26 Posts: 551 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 20	yeah i never really had to be up to date on my smog shit because i live in new york, and not the city either, but i am getting kinda worried about where the airforce stations me next summer, that's why i'm still driving the hell outta my stock motor.

01-06-2003, 05:40 PM	#19
92b16vx B happy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Location: Location: Location: Age: 38 Posts: 13,020 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: dohc 95 egg Rep Power: 186	so you had your car shipped over there (germany right)? That would be sweet, plus you could find a swap over there for real cheap (no demand) [/quote] Actually it's kinda weird,I got the car from a civilian contractor.He got it from a German lot,who got it from a soldier who left.It still retains it's american title so that's easy,the Germans put sidemarkers on it so those are gone when I get the time.As far as the swap,it was cheap,cheap,cheap complete VTi conversion(four point brake,sway bar the works) for 1900.Mostly Americans do swaps here,but motors are still in demand,but cheaper than the states. __________________ 95 CX\|B16A2 XBL \| binary xj0hnx \| Halo 3

01-06-2003, 05:52 PM	#20
asmallsol Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Houghton/Livonia Michigan Age: 23 Posts: 8,101 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 93 del Sol Gas sipper Rep Power: 101	about the side markers, they may have cut the fender to put them in, that is how i have seen them on del Sols. For 1900, that is a great deal, when are you coming back and where are you from (in the us) __________________ Collin Material Science and Engineering Michigan Technological University

01-06-2003, 05:58 PM	#21
92b16vx B happy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Location: Location: Location: Age: 38 Posts: 13,020 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: dohc 95 egg Rep Power: 186	I am worried that they cut the fenders,but chances are good that they didn't because they only have to reflect,so maybe they didn't run wires,just some 3m.I come back in June 2004.Back to Texas. __________________ 95 CX\|B16A2 XBL \| binary xj0hnx \| Halo 3

01-06-2003, 08:46 PM	#22
prawjEKt Cx Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: upstate NY Age: 26 Posts: 551 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 20	yeah after a year of active i'm gonna put in for japan, there's 2 AF bases on the big island... if so i'm gonna be a junkyard/ebay whore, not to mention be bringing back a REAL EK home and i can set my cx on fire.

01-06-2003, 09:30 PM	#24
prawjEKt Cx Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: upstate NY Age: 26 Posts: 551 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 20	yeah i realize the costs of getting it registered.... i was figuring you could make it past customs with it and worry about legalization ever.... you can't tell me a real ek9 wouldn't win alot of shows, just trailer the bitch everywhere.

01-06-2003, 09:33 PM	#25
asmallsol Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Houghton/Livonia Michigan Age: 23 Posts: 8,101 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 93 del Sol Gas sipper Rep Power: 101	yes if you make it just a trailor queen and make it past coustoms, you can do that, just cant drive it on the streets. I bet that you could even do that with a skyline. (new b. disscussion) Maybe even look at some some mugen typeR's if they are just going to be trailor queens. __________________ Collin Material Science and Engineering Michigan Technological University

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