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4DRCiViCB16 · 05-05-2009, 11:17 AM

i have a 01 b20z w/ b16 h/i/e and i want some more power, as far as turboing goes i dont know much i was looking for some info on what kinda gains i could expect and what some of my cheapest but most quality options would be, thanks!

CAFROG · 05-05-2009, 03:19 PM

What about this has to do with a transmission???

Cheap and quality usually never go hand and hand

Cheap.....Nitrous

Quality...built motor fro N/A or Turbo (which cost more money)

Good luck

AHHVTEC · 05-05-2009, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAFROG

What about this has to do with a transmission???

Cheap and quality usually never go hand and hand

Cheap.....Nitrous

Quality...built motor fro N/A or Turbo (which cost more money)

Good luck

i thought that at first to, but i think he is saying he has a b20 with a b16 trans

dcasey12 · 05-06-2009, 07:33 AM

You have to remember, how fast do you want to go= how much you want to spend. You should put a decent extractors and exhaust system intake pipe and filter and a chipped ecu. Then to spend more high comp pistons, forged rods, 64mm throttle body. If thats not enough ported head with stage 3 cams, springs, ITR LMA's, and after market intake.

Have fun

CAFROG · 05-07-2009, 09:42 PM

I wondered but thought it was a B16 head with header intake and exhaust....Frankenstein

But nothing was mentioned about the trans.

I was interested because transmissions and problems interest me (mostly because I seem to be having problems with my B16 trans/clutch lol)

AHHVTEC · 05-07-2009, 10:49 PM

im guessing the w in the title meant b20 with b16 trans

CAFROG · 05-07-2009, 11:12 PM

ahh....yes

Calesta · 05-07-2009, 11:15 PM

Cheap + quality = do it yourself.

With all stock internals, you could easily push 200-250whp on the B20 with the right turbo setup. I could build it for less than $1k tuned if I wanted, but that's with really good resources and doing pretty much everything on my own.

CAFROG · 05-07-2009, 11:31 PM

I do wish I had resources....sadly, I do not.

I know we're not talking about swaps but to see how un-connected i am......

My B16 swap was done by myself (and a friend)....after all the maintenance stuff (timing belt, wtr pmp, clutch, cap/rtr, etc) it was pricey.... $1900 for total swap + $500-600 in maintenance items

Turbo seems expensive for a guy like me (little resources/little cash) after the fuel pump, injectors, worked over ECU, gauges, tune....oh and the turbo system....dang

$1K for a turbo? tuned? Nice....Hook it up!

200-250whp sounds nice too! Heard that was pretty hard with stock b20 and the thin walls...but just what I've heard. But B20's longblocks going for $500 these days....

It is like a sore penis.....you can't beat it!!

Calesta · 05-08-2009, 12:07 AM

The B20 "thin walls" will hold up to 250whp just fine. Most people who bitch are just going cheap and not tuning well- and then they destroy the sleeve. Once they've done that, they blame the block and not the tuning which would have killed a "thick wall" B18 anyway.

$1k to me means this:

not paying for dyno time
not paying for wideband O2 sensor usage
not paying for a chip programmer
not paying for welding manifold / charge pipes / exhaust
not paying for any labor whatsoever
paying under $200 for the turbo
paying under $200 for the manifold
paying under $100 for the injectors (including flow matching)

Not paying for the stuff up top doesn't mean that they don't happen. Get access like that and you can do it reliably under $1k. For what I have access to, I can't share. It took me quite a bit to get there, and the providers don't give it away.

TurboRex90 · 05-08-2009, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calesta

For what I have access to, I can't share. It took me quite a bit to get there, and the providers don't give it away.

Lets be beeeeeeeessst friends

CAFROG · 05-08-2009, 01:02 AM

Just the free dyno time and tune is sweet enough hook up.....

We all have our friends and 'hook ups'

I have a friend that owns a skate/snow/wake board shop....used to be sweet to get the newest stuff cheap but my body is all beat up from it all and...well...I'm just an old man lol

Calesta · 05-08-2009, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboRex90

Lets be beeeeeeeessst friends

You've got to eaaaaaaaaaarn that.

TurboRex90 · 05-13-2009, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calesta

You've got to eaaaaaaaaaarn that.

Ill give you free caaaaaaaaaaandyyyyyyyyyy.

And a hug.... and maybe a pat on the back.

Calesta · 05-13-2009, 09:47 PM

I charge for those too.

TurboRex90 · 05-18-2009, 12:04 AM

But its free. You cant charge for something thats free... thats like.. infringement or something haha.

Obd1c1DA9 · 05-18-2009, 11:07 AM

i wouldnt boost a b16 trans. if you have serious power on those short gears youll be spinning through ever gear dude...ive seen guys eat their lsd's doing it.. non lsd is just outta the question lol

Calesta · 05-19-2009, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboRex90

But its free. You cant charge for something thats free... thats like.. infringement or something haha.

Sure you can. Go watch "deluxe hugs" on YouTube.

TurboRex90 · 05-22-2009, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calesta

Sure you can. Go watch "deluxe hugs" on YouTube.

ahahaha. do you take people to the parking lot for "20 dollar hugs"?

Calesta · 05-22-2009, 11:03 PM

More like $50.

TurboRex90 · 05-24-2009, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calesta

More like $50.

Greedy bastard! Deluxe parking lot hugs here, 49$

78civic · 09-13-2009, 02:47 PM

So, I picked this thread thinkin that a B20 will bolt to a B16 trans..?
I wanted to do a LS swap in a 90civic and saw a local add for a b20 out of a 99 crv. Will the '99 B20 bolt to the B18a LS trans??
IT would be quicker than going through all these endless searches that don't come up with much..
E

05-05-2009, 11:17 AM	#1
4DRCiViCB16 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Charlottetown PEI Posts: 9 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 93 civ b20w/b16 trans Rep Power: 0	B20 w/ B16 Trans Advice Wanted i have a 01 b20z w/ b16 h/i/e and i want some more power, as far as turboing goes i dont know much i was looking for some info on what kinda gains i could expect and what some of my cheapest but most quality options would be, thanks!

05-07-2009, 11:15 PM	#8
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	Cheap + quality = do it yourself. With all stock internals, you could easily push 200-250whp on the B20 with the right turbo setup. I could build it for less than $1k tuned if I wanted, but that's with really good resources and doing pretty much everything on my own. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

05-08-2009, 12:07 AM	#10
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	The B20 "thin walls" will hold up to 250whp just fine. Most people who bitch are just going cheap and not tuning well- and then they destroy the sleeve. Once they've done that, they blame the block and not the tuning which would have killed a "thick wall" B18 anyway. $1k to me means this: not paying for dyno time not paying for wideband O2 sensor usage not paying for a chip programmer not paying for welding manifold / charge pipes / exhaust not paying for any labor whatsoever paying under $200 for the turbo paying under $200 for the manifold paying under $100 for the injectors (including flow matching) Not paying for the stuff up top doesn't mean that they don't happen. Get access like that and you can do it reliably under $1k. For what I have access to, I can't share. It took me quite a bit to get there, and the providers don't give it away. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

05-13-2009, 09:47 PM	#15
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	I charge for those too. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

05-22-2009, 11:03 PM	#20
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	More like $50. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688


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05-05-2009, 03:19 PM	#2
CAFROG Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NOR-CAL Age: 33 Posts: 978 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '92 Hatch si w/B16 (wannabe EG6) Rep Power: 26	What about this has to do with a transmission??? Cheap and quality usually never go hand and hand Cheap.....Nitrous Quality...built motor fro N/A or Turbo (which cost more money) Good luck

05-06-2009, 07:33 AM	#4
dcasey12 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 35 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 4	You have to remember, how fast do you want to go= how much you want to spend. You should put a decent extractors and exhaust system intake pipe and filter and a chipped ecu. Then to spend more high comp pistons, forged rods, 64mm throttle body. If thats not enough ported head with stage 3 cams, springs, ITR LMA's, and after market intake. Have fun

05-07-2009, 09:42 PM	#5
CAFROG Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NOR-CAL Age: 33 Posts: 978 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '92 Hatch si w/B16 (wannabe EG6) Rep Power: 26	I wondered but thought it was a B16 head with header intake and exhaust....Frankenstein But nothing was mentioned about the trans. I was interested because transmissions and problems interest me (mostly because I seem to be having problems with my B16 trans/clutch lol)

05-07-2009, 10:49 PM	#6
AHHVTEC Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Alabama Age: 30 Posts: 11,377 iTrader: 3 / 100% Ride: dc5,mk4 gti,2nd gen civic,92 accord cp,88 crx hf Rep Power: 272	im guessing the w in the title meant b20 with b16 trans

05-07-2009, 11:12 PM	#7
CAFROG Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NOR-CAL Age: 33 Posts: 978 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '92 Hatch si w/B16 (wannabe EG6) Rep Power: 26	ahh....yes

05-07-2009, 11:31 PM	#9
CAFROG Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NOR-CAL Age: 33 Posts: 978 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '92 Hatch si w/B16 (wannabe EG6) Rep Power: 26	I do wish I had resources....sadly, I do not. I know we're not talking about swaps but to see how un-connected i am...... My B16 swap was done by myself (and a friend)....after all the maintenance stuff (timing belt, wtr pmp, clutch, cap/rtr, etc) it was pricey.... $1900 for total swap + $500-600 in maintenance items Turbo seems expensive for a guy like me (little resources/little cash) after the fuel pump, injectors, worked over ECU, gauges, tune....oh and the turbo system....dang $1K for a turbo? tuned? Nice....Hook it up! 200-250whp sounds nice too! Heard that was pretty hard with stock b20 and the thin walls...but just what I've heard. But B20's longblocks going for $500 these days.... It is like a sore penis.....you can't beat it!!

05-08-2009, 01:02 AM	#12
CAFROG Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NOR-CAL Age: 33 Posts: 978 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '92 Hatch si w/B16 (wannabe EG6) Rep Power: 26	Just the free dyno time and tune is sweet enough hook up..... We all have our friends and 'hook ups' I have a friend that owns a skate/snow/wake board shop....used to be sweet to get the newest stuff cheap but my body is all beat up from it all and...well...I'm just an old man lol

05-18-2009, 11:07 AM	#17
Obd1c1DA9 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Age: 20 Posts: 44 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 2	i wouldnt boost a b16 trans. if you have serious power on those short gears youll be spinning through ever gear dude...ive seen guys eat their lsd's doing it.. non lsd is just outta the question lol

09-13-2009, 02:47 PM	#22
78civic Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 291 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 14	So, I picked this thread thinkin that a B20 will bolt to a B16 trans..? I wanted to do a LS swap in a 90civic and saw a local add for a b20 out of a 99 crv. Will the '99 B20 bolt to the B18a LS trans?? IT would be quicker than going through all these endless searches that don't come up with much.. E

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