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chacal06 · 10-12-2009, 03:46 PM

Men I hate buyin a car with a swap cuz I don't kno what's exactly in the engine...I have a b18b1 block but it has different heads all I kno they are from a vtec well a mechanic told me my camshaft where wasted and I need to replace them ( his not charchin me for the labor he told me just buy the parts) but I don't kno if I need to order the camshafts for the block(b18b1) or the heads which I don't kno what they are help me PLZZZ !! I'm stuck without a car thanks in advance

dtob · 10-13-2009, 10:01 AM

Have a look at the cams, if they have 3 lobes per cyl then they are vtec and you need B series DOHC VTEC cams, if they only have two then they are non vtec. If you need vtec B18C or B16A will work, just find some good used ones. If not then find some non vtec b series cams.

I've got a set of GSR B18C cams for sale if you need them.

chacal06 · 10-13-2009, 06:20 PM

Ok ama go take a look at them...if they are not vtec cams can I put some vtec or dey have to be non vtec ? How much you want for yours ?

dtob · 10-13-2009, 11:50 PM

If you have non vtec you need non vtec, if you have vtec you need vtec.

chacal06 · 10-14-2009, 10:00 PM

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That's what it looks like so I'm guessing vtec....so I can use b18c or b16a camshaft ?

chacal06 · 10-14-2009, 10:01 PM

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This is what it looks like so I'm guessin its vtec...so I can use b18c or b16a ?

chacal06 · 10-14-2009, 10:05 PM

dtob · 10-14-2009, 11:00 PM

Yup, looks like it, what's wrong with the cams? They usually don't really go bad, no much can go wrong with them other than wearing out.

Rockers look ok judging by the pics.

chacal06 · 10-16-2009, 05:45 AM

my engine was leakin oil so I told him kind of where it was coming from and he said my cam seals was messed up but he was gonna do it free of charge. Because I just replaced my pistons and I guess he messed up but then he couldn't find the seals because he don't kno what heads my engine has and then he told me that the cam shaft were wasted and that was one of the reason why it was leaking...so I guess I have to go out buy me some vtec cam shaft gsr or b16a will do right ?

dtob · 10-16-2009, 08:15 AM

Post some pics of your cams and someone can tell you if they're done.

chacal06 · 10-17-2009, 01:43 AM

Uhh I'm not really sure what kind of picture not really good in parts....I am already lookin for some cams to buy...I already got the cam gears and my mechanic told me he might get some this Saturday...I was thinking does the camshaft make a lot of differences on engine performance ? Like that I can get some porformance camshafts

klyph · 10-17-2009, 04:05 AM

Immediately take your engine to a different mechanic. Like, now. This guy is easily more clueless than you. Sorry for being harsh, but you need someone who has half a clue about Hondas if you ever hope to fix this correctly.

xeroxero · 10-23-2009, 02:02 AM

I agree, take it to a different mechanic. There are codes on all the heads.

B16 and Type-R motors have the same CAST head...some of the differences between the two heads are that the Type-R head has a better and stronger valvetrain, the cams, lighter valves, the better intake manifold and bigger throttlebody, and a mild port job from the factory.

b16 and type-r heads are stamped PR3-X (x being a random number...in this case its 4)
see:

P72 cast head - GSR b18c head

Also another random fact: u can tell the date of the head by the numbers to the far left of those circular stamps with numbers on it. See the " 0 0 " ? That means this head was manufactured in 2000.

chacal06 · 10-28-2009, 10:04 PM

He got the cam shafts already but now the place where he got the cams from gave him the wrong cam seals...I want to take it to another mechanic but I don't kno any one around that knows about hondas ! and also I know my mechanic not goin to over charge me or try to get me for my money...he is my cuzin uncle !

klyph · 10-30-2009, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chacal06

he is my cuzin uncle !

You must be from the south.

chacal06 · 11-02-2009, 09:04 PM

naw I'm from cali....but I don't want to drive around to look for honda specialist !! And I don't kno if I could trust them !

klyph · 11-02-2009, 11:45 PM

The joke was that your cousin is also your uncle, implying some sort of incestuous reproduction in your lineage.

chacal06 · 11-03-2009, 04:48 AM

I kind of thought that's wat u meant !!

10-12-2009, 03:46 PM	#1
chacal06 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 63 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 1	cam shaft problems Men I hate buyin a car with a swap cuz I don't kno what's exactly in the engine...I have a b18b1 block but it has different heads all I kno they are from a vtec well a mechanic told me my camshaft where wasted and I need to replace them ( his not charchin me for the labor he told me just buy the parts) but I don't kno if I need to order the camshafts for the block(b18b1) or the heads which I don't kno what they are help me PLZZZ !! I'm stuck without a car thanks in advance

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10-13-2009, 10:01 AM	#2
dtob Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 578 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 11	Have a look at the cams, if they have 3 lobes per cyl then they are vtec and you need B series DOHC VTEC cams, if they only have two then they are non vtec. If you need vtec B18C or B16A will work, just find some good used ones. If not then find some non vtec b series cams. I've got a set of GSR B18C cams for sale if you need them.

10-13-2009, 06:20 PM	#3
chacal06 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 63 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 1	Ok ama go take a look at them...if they are not vtec cams can I put some vtec or dey have to be non vtec ? How much you want for yours ?

10-13-2009, 11:50 PM	#4
dtob Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 578 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 11	If you have non vtec you need non vtec, if you have vtec you need vtec.

10-14-2009, 10:00 PM	#5
chacal06 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 63 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 1	<a href="http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b161/chacal06/?action=view&current=2009-10-13154042.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b161/chacal06/2009-10-13154042.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> That's what it looks like so I'm guessing vtec....so I can use b18c or b16a camshaft ?

10-14-2009, 10:01 PM	#6
chacal06 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 63 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 1	<a href="http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b161/chacal06/?action=view&current=2009-10-13154042.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b161/chacal06/2009-10-13154042.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> This is what it looks like so I'm guessin its vtec...so I can use b18c or b16a ?

10-14-2009, 10:05 PM	#7
chacal06 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 63 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 1

10-14-2009, 11:00 PM	#8
dtob Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 578 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 11	Yup, looks like it, what's wrong with the cams? They usually don't really go bad, no much can go wrong with them other than wearing out. Rockers look ok judging by the pics.

10-16-2009, 05:45 AM	#9
chacal06 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 63 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 1	my engine was leakin oil so I told him kind of where it was coming from and he said my cam seals was messed up but he was gonna do it free of charge. Because I just replaced my pistons and I guess he messed up but then he couldn't find the seals because he don't kno what heads my engine has and then he told me that the cam shaft were wasted and that was one of the reason why it was leaking...so I guess I have to go out buy me some vtec cam shaft gsr or b16a will do right ?

10-16-2009, 08:15 AM	#10
dtob Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 578 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 11	Post some pics of your cams and someone can tell you if they're done.

10-17-2009, 01:43 AM	#11
chacal06 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 63 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 1	Uhh I'm not really sure what kind of picture not really good in parts....I am already lookin for some cams to buy...I already got the cam gears and my mechanic told me he might get some this Saturday...I was thinking does the camshaft make a lot of differences on engine performance ? Like that I can get some porformance camshafts

10-17-2009, 04:05 AM	#12
klyph Dismember Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North Pole, AK Age: 25 Posts: 4,228 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: Whatever i can get behind the wheel of Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 263	Immediately take your engine to a different mechanic. Like, now. This guy is easily more clueless than you. Sorry for being harsh, but you need someone who has half a clue about Hondas if you ever hope to fix this correctly.

10-23-2009, 02:02 AM	#13
xeroxero Greenhorn Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Fayetteville Ga Age: 22 Posts: 14 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 92 Dx 4 door 5 Speed Rep Power: 0	I agree, take it to a different mechanic. There are codes on all the heads. B16 and Type-R motors have the same CAST head...some of the differences between the two heads are that the Type-R head has a better and stronger valvetrain, the cams, lighter valves, the better intake manifold and bigger throttlebody, and a mild port job from the factory. b16 and type-r heads are stamped PR3-X (x being a random number...in this case its 4) see: P72 cast head - GSR b18c head Also another random fact: u can tell the date of the head by the numbers to the far left of those circular stamps with numbers on it. See the " 0 0 " ? That means this head was manufactured in 2000.

10-28-2009, 10:04 PM	#14
chacal06 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 63 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 1	He got the cam shafts already but now the place where he got the cams from gave him the wrong cam seals...I want to take it to another mechanic but I don't kno any one around that knows about hondas ! and also I know my mechanic not goin to over charge me or try to get me for my money...he is my cuzin uncle !

11-02-2009, 09:04 PM	#16
chacal06 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 63 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 1	naw I'm from cali....but I don't want to drive around to look for honda specialist !! And I don't kno if I could trust them !

11-02-2009, 11:45 PM	#17
klyph Dismember Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North Pole, AK Age: 25 Posts: 4,228 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: Whatever i can get behind the wheel of Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 263	The joke was that your cousin is also your uncle, implying some sort of incestuous reproduction in your lineage.

11-03-2009, 04:48 AM	#18
chacal06 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 63 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 1	I kind of thought that's wat u meant !!

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