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slugo10 · 06-28-2008, 08:33 AM

I finally ordered a B18c complete swap from Hmotors. It should be here early next week!! It's going in my 96 EK hatch. I will post picks soon. This site is great for all the info on the swap, just wanna thank all who post answers for us new guys.

YBLEGAL · 06-28-2008, 01:43 PM

Notta problem.

You get an OBD1 B18? Realize your chassis is OBD2a? Got it figured out?

99sidude · 06-28-2008, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by slugo10

I finally ordered a B18c complete swap from Hmotors. It should be here early next week!! It's going in my 96 EK hatch. I will post picks soon. This site is great for all the info on the swap, just wanna thank all who post answers for us new guys.

Good luck with the swap! Can't wait to see the pics. I got my swap from hmotors 2 years ago and its still running strong!

slugo10 · 06-28-2008, 07:27 PM

Ya got all the info I think I need. It's obd2a JDM swap so should go pretty easy. Got the 2 mounts, thottle cable, ac mount and buncha how to's off net with wire pin outs so hope it goes good. Prob. gonna do it over 4th July weekend just happens to be my 14th year anniveresry but wife understands.

99sidude · 06-28-2008, 08:23 PM

If you have everything you need then its an easy weekend job

THI3FINTH3NIGHT · 06-29-2008, 01:18 AM

as far as the pinouts for the knock sensor and iab sensor can you send me some info on how to wire them into the harness for a clean swap.

99sidude · 06-29-2008, 08:29 AM

I went to a junkyard and picked up a spare ecu connector. I pulled the pins out of that and installed them at the proper points on the connector in my car. Then run the wires from the sensors to this. If you want it to look perfect, run the wires through the proper shock tower mount connector as well.

slugo10 · 06-29-2008, 08:36 AM

I don't know what year car you have but this is the best pinout guide I have found.

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Originally Posted by THI3FINTH3NIGHT

as far as the pinouts for the knock sensor and iab sensor can you send me some info on how to wire them into the harness for a clean swap.

slugo10 · 07-03-2008, 09:07 AM

Finally got the B18c in. It looks in really good shape. I got a busy 4th July weekend now!

vi3tsi06 · 07-07-2008, 04:59 PM

what mounts do you need for the swap???

99sidude · 07-07-2008, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by slugo10

Finally got the B18c in. It looks in really good shape. I got a busy 4th July weekend now!

Nice man! hmotors ftw

slugo10 · 07-07-2008, 05:13 PM

99-00 Civic SI driver upper mount(the one that bolts under the timing cover) and the rear T-bracket mount for the SI. If you have a/c the bracket from the CRV is the one I used and the tensioner off the original integra a/c mount.

slugo10 · 07-07-2008, 05:21 PM

I got it all done in less than two days!! First crank no codes and idles perfect! I just need to find out what throttle cable best fits and what fuel line will fit best too.

thetunersource · 07-08-2008, 08:08 PM

wow man awesome! usually takes me 3 - 5 days to do a swap

bfraley · 07-08-2008, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by slugo10

I got it all done in less than two days!! First crank no codes and idles perfect! I just need to find out what throttle cable best fits and what fuel line will fit best too.

Looks like you did your homework! Looks like a great facility your in as well. Do you know what kind of MPG the B18C will get in the hatch? Congrats on a job well done!

slugo10 · 07-10-2008, 04:35 PM

I checked today and this is the first tank so i was not tryn to save gas and i got
30 MPG.

bfraley · 07-10-2008, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by slugo10

I checked today and this is the first tank so i was not tryn to save gas and i got
30 MPG.

wow...that's awesome. Maybe I should've gone with the B18C instead of the B18B. $1500 price difference though. Glad it's working out so well for you!

slugo10 · 07-10-2008, 09:59 PM

Ya i figure I spent about $4000 after all said and done. Motor 3200 shipped new mounts, hoses, timing belt, water pump, tensioner, bought carbon fiber intake from password jdm, oil change, honda manual tran fluid, and few other things I'm sure prob took it to $4000 ish

bfraley · 07-10-2008, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by slugo10

Ya i figure I spent about $4000 after all said and done. Motor 3200 shipped new mounts, hoses, timing belt, water pump, tensioner, bought carbon fiber intake from password jdm, oil change, honda manual tran fluid, and few other things I'm sure prob took it to $4000 ish

That's a chunk-o-change. I did a B18b1 OBDII into my EK for $3000, $1650 shipped for the motor/tranny and the rest included new springs/struts and anti-sway bar kit. The engine is totally stock including air box from a 00 Civic Si. It's great to pull away from the unbelievers on the Mass Pike. I drive 120 miles a day and it's much more fun now!

Mike1ch · 07-12-2008, 10:18 AM

Congrats on the swap. I acutally just ordered the same motor for my 99 ek. I'm going to end up doing a full tune up on the motor/trans before i put it in, so i may not have it in till august but i'm siked. I might go as far as a new clutch and syncros, just because the motor/trans is not in the car.

Question... i'm getting the full uncut harness with the motor(jdm b18c gsr) would you recommend just using that harness, or reuse the stock ek harness and extend the wires i need and run vtec?
The integra harness is a 2 piece, where my civic harness is 1 long harness from the ecu to the engine.

The only thing i'm not to sure with is the wiring, i still need to do that research.
Thanks

slugo10 · 07-12-2008, 11:28 AM

your ek harness for sure. I used the wiring stuff for the web link I posted up a few hybrid 6g something like that. It was not hard at all. Hardest part was tryn to get the pins out of the ek harness ecu plug.

EKblues · 09-29-2008, 02:16 PM

yo slugo! i'm gettin the same motor from hmotors too, but not until i come home from this stupid deployment. first time swapper, any advice?

slugo10 · 09-29-2008, 08:34 PM

Reseach all your parts before you start. Label all you plugs on harness before you remove it from the D motor. Don't get in a rush, it was fun to do and I would do it again. Let me know if I can help.

EKblues · 09-30-2008, 09:46 AM

well i've done my research for a few months now. i'm come to these required parts which is enroute: hasport's EKSTK, SI rear tranny mount and timing belt bracket, and the DEL SOL's ac bracket. is there anything else i need? did it come with the throttle cable?

slugo10 · 10-01-2008, 08:23 AM

mine didn't come with cable. You will need the GSR cable and GSR fuel line from filter to fuel rail. Magestic Honda online parts is cheapest place I could find. The crv a/c bracket is alot cheaper. are u getting obd2 motor? If so the Jdm ecu will plug into your obd2a harness and Jdm engine will only have one o2 sensor and no Vtec oil pressure switch to wire. All you will have to do is 3 wire to 2 iac change, Vtec wire, knock sensor, and extend a few stock plugs.

06-28-2008, 08:33 AM	#1
slugo10 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: MS Age: 34 Posts: 25 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 96 civic hatch GSR swap Rep Power: 0	GSR goin in my EK hatch I finally ordered a B18c complete swap from Hmotors. It should be here early next week!! It's going in my 96 EK hatch. I will post picks soon. This site is great for all the info on the swap, just wanna thank all who post answers for us new guys.

06-28-2008, 01:43 PM	#2
YBLEGAL Regular Member w/ Cheese Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 2,744 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2000 EJ8 w/ SiR-II Rep Power: 71	Notta problem. You get an OBD1 B18? Realize your chassis is OBD2a? Got it figured out? __________________ YBLEGAL.NET → Profile • Projects • Parts For Sale → Steel Braided Brake Lines • Front Camber Kit (Price Drop) • Manual Brake Pedal

07-03-2008, 09:07 AM	#9
slugo10 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: MS Age: 34 Posts: 25 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 96 civic hatch GSR swap Rep Power: 0	got it Finally got the B18c in. It looks in really good shape. I got a busy 4th July weekend now! Attached Thumbnails

07-07-2008, 05:21 PM	#13
slugo10 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: MS Age: 34 Posts: 25 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 96 civic hatch GSR swap Rep Power: 0	I got it all done in less than two days!! First crank no codes and idles perfect! I just need to find out what throttle cable best fits and what fuel line will fit best too. Attached Thumbnails

07-08-2008, 08:08 PM	#14
thetunersource Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 3	wow man awesome! usually takes me 3 - 5 days to do a swap __________________ 2002 Honda Civic Si Greddy Turbo'd 1989 BMW 328ci SR20DET Powered 1972 Honda CB350 Supersport 1971 Mercedes Benz 300sel 6.3 Monster 1989 Dodge Colt/Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo 4g63 Turbo'd -- goodbye, you will be missed www.thetunersource.com


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06-28-2008, 07:27 PM	#4
slugo10 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: MS Age: 34 Posts: 25 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 96 civic hatch GSR swap Rep Power: 0	Ya got all the info I think I need. It's obd2a JDM swap so should go pretty easy. Got the 2 mounts, thottle cable, ac mount and buncha how to's off net with wire pin outs so hope it goes good. Prob. gonna do it over 4th July weekend just happens to be my 14th year anniveresry but wife understands.

06-29-2008, 01:18 AM	#6
THI3FINTH3NIGHT Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 22 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	as far as the pinouts for the knock sensor and iab sensor can you send me some info on how to wire them into the harness for a clean swap.

07-07-2008, 04:59 PM	#10
vi3tsi06 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 20 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	what mounts do you need for the swap???

07-07-2008, 05:13 PM	#12
slugo10 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: MS Age: 34 Posts: 25 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 96 civic hatch GSR swap Rep Power: 0	99-00 Civic SI driver upper mount(the one that bolts under the timing cover) and the rear T-bracket mount for the SI. If you have a/c the bracket from the CRV is the one I used and the tensioner off the original integra a/c mount.

07-10-2008, 04:35 PM	#16
slugo10 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: MS Age: 34 Posts: 25 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 96 civic hatch GSR swap Rep Power: 0	I checked today and this is the first tank so i was not tryn to save gas and i got 30 MPG.

07-10-2008, 09:59 PM	#18
slugo10 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: MS Age: 34 Posts: 25 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 96 civic hatch GSR swap Rep Power: 0	Ya i figure I spent about $4000 after all said and done. Motor 3200 shipped new mounts, hoses, timing belt, water pump, tensioner, bought carbon fiber intake from password jdm, oil change, honda manual tran fluid, and few other things I'm sure prob took it to $4000 ish

07-12-2008, 10:18 AM	#20
Mike1ch Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	Congrats on the swap. I acutally just ordered the same motor for my 99 ek. I'm going to end up doing a full tune up on the motor/trans before i put it in, so i may not have it in till august but i'm siked. I might go as far as a new clutch and syncros, just because the motor/trans is not in the car. Question... i'm getting the full uncut harness with the motor(jdm b18c gsr) would you recommend just using that harness, or reuse the stock ek harness and extend the wires i need and run vtec? The integra harness is a 2 piece, where my civic harness is 1 long harness from the ecu to the engine. The only thing i'm not to sure with is the wiring, i still need to do that research. Thanks

07-12-2008, 11:28 AM	#21
slugo10 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: MS Age: 34 Posts: 25 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 96 civic hatch GSR swap Rep Power: 0	your ek harness for sure. I used the wiring stuff for the web link I posted up a few hybrid 6g something like that. It was not hard at all. Hardest part was tryn to get the pins out of the ek harness ecu plug.

09-29-2008, 02:16 PM	#22
EKblues vroom vroom Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Iraq Posts: 6 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 96 civic HB Rep Power: 0	yo slugo! i'm gettin the same motor from hmotors too, but not until i come home from this stupid deployment. first time swapper, any advice?

09-29-2008, 08:34 PM	#23
slugo10 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: MS Age: 34 Posts: 25 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 96 civic hatch GSR swap Rep Power: 0	Reseach all your parts before you start. Label all you plugs on harness before you remove it from the D motor. Don't get in a rush, it was fun to do and I would do it again. Let me know if I can help.

09-30-2008, 09:46 AM	#24
EKblues vroom vroom Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Iraq Posts: 6 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 96 civic HB Rep Power: 0	well i've done my research for a few months now. i'm come to these required parts which is enroute: hasport's EKSTK, SI rear tranny mount and timing belt bracket, and the DEL SOL's ac bracket. is there anything else i need? did it come with the throttle cable? Last edited by EKblues; 09-30-2008 at 01:06 PM.

10-01-2008, 08:23 AM	#25
slugo10 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: MS Age: 34 Posts: 25 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 96 civic hatch GSR swap Rep Power: 0	mine didn't come with cable. You will need the GSR cable and GSR fuel line from filter to fuel rail. Magestic Honda online parts is cheapest place I could find. The crv a/c bracket is alot cheaper. are u getting obd2 motor? If so the Jdm ecu will plug into your obd2a harness and Jdm engine will only have one o2 sensor and no Vtec oil pressure switch to wire. All you will have to do is 3 wire to 2 iac change, Vtec wire, knock sensor, and extend a few stock plugs.

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