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CAFROG · 04-19-2009, 06:00 PM

My '92 EG SI with a B16 (JDM). Great success!!! Just happy to finally get it in. It was definetly worth talking to people on this forum. It all went smoothly after I after i extended wires on the engine harness (D16Z6). I extended the O2, VTEC solenoid, and VTEC oil pressure. I also ran the knock sensor through the harness clips and to the ECU. And last was the MAP sensor needed to be mounted to the firewall and ran to the top of the throttle body. Thanks for all the help!!

eg6sir · 04-19-2009, 06:07 PM

cool.. glad you got it finished.. nice rod in the back too

CAFROG · 04-20-2009, 12:17 AM

b18a1build · 04-20-2009, 11:20 AM

cleeean. How long did it take you?

!JDM_EF-9! · 04-20-2009, 12:49 PM

niice!

CAFROG · 04-20-2009, 02:57 PM

It took me a good three days with:

Replace clutch/flywheel/timingbelt/waterpump/valvecover gasket

I had to make a bracket to mount to the firewall for the MAP sensor (not attached to throttle body like USDM Hondas).

Plus getting my knock sensor into the ECU plug was a time consuming experience.

A little over 2 hours to take the LS swap out and 3.5 hours for the install of the B16. No Check Engine Light....just needed to advance the timing a little.

CAFROG · 04-20-2009, 03:13 PM

nicky · 04-21-2009, 12:33 AM

Hey can you post more pictures of your MAP bracket?

My MAP is not on the TB so I would have to do something about it before I do my swap.

Thanks in advance. NICE clean RIDE!!!

CAFROG · 04-21-2009, 12:46 PM

Here's the MAP sensor on the firewall. I just used the right side bolt of the fuel filter mount. I just took some semi thick sheet metal my dad had in the garage and marked the three holes for the map sensor (two for mounting and one big hole for the vacuum tube to attach to MAP sensor). Then I drilled another hole on the other side so I could run the Fuel filter bolt through it. Test fit it and bent it to my liking...then painted it and got a vacuum line that worked (about 8-10 inches long)

CAFROG · 04-21-2009, 02:58 PM

The surge I feel is only when I give it more throttle then it wants (at the lower rpm) but I'm not sure if its from the motor sitting for so long or what. I put cheaper 10w-30 in it to flush it out and have synthetic that'll put in this weekend.

eastbxc · 04-21-2009, 04:44 PM

Looks very good. Why did you take the LS out for a B16?

CAFROG · 04-21-2009, 04:54 PM

I wanted a different set up (LS since '98) and I wanted a VTEC Head/Trans. I plan on either selling the LS swap or keeping the bottom end and building and LS/VTEC later on (maybe this fall).

CAFROG · 04-21-2009, 04:58 PM

Give me some rep points!! I know I'm new to the forum but I've had my EG since '96 and did both of my swaps myself.

nicky · 04-21-2009, 06:00 PM

Thanks bud.

I'm sure I can fabricate something to that as well.

REP point +1 from me LOL

CAFROG · 04-24-2009, 12:36 AM

advanced the timing and it helped quite a bit.

gonna check the TPS sensor this weekend and see if its reading correctly.

crvtt96 · 04-24-2009, 09:16 PM

Looks GOOD, Glad to see another clean install! Did you keep the A/C intact?

CAFROG · 04-24-2009, 10:32 PM

I have it but need the lines from the pump to my connectors...plus I need new rubber rings because I was told if the system is empty...the seals will go bad ( I haven't had A/C since '98). But I have the pump for it and will have it up and running before it gets too hot

nicky · 05-09-2009, 09:22 AM

Hey when you mean surging how bad is it?

This is my surging :

And can't seem to fix it and therefor unable to put it on the road.

And you advanced timing with the dizzy correct?

CAFROG · 05-09-2009, 12:36 PM

wow....that is a trip. not sure whats up with that....sounds like fuel or a solenoid/sensor on the intake/throttle body.

Check vacuum lines....sensors/solenoids for continuity.

I advanced timing by jumping the service plug under my glove box and advanced timing by sound and figuring one millimeter was roughly one degree.

counterclockwise rotation is advanced

I put it on a gun and it looked like it was right on the money (16 degrees)

I wonder if a mechanic retarded the timing in Japan so it could run lower octane gas??

My surge is coming from the lightened flywheel...i think. Someone told me about it and it makes sense because the hesitation is at low rpm and lightened flywheels can cause that

CAFROG · 06-24-2009, 04:34 AM

Here's a pic with the OEM air box and A/C hooked up

phyregod · 06-24-2009, 06:52 AM

I haven't seen an oem airbox in a honda in years! lol

Nice job, very clean honda. Repped!

CAFROG · 06-24-2009, 04:19 PM

its so the fuzz will leave me alone!!! The air box keeps them out of my engine bay!

eg6sir · 06-24-2009, 04:35 PM

is your airbox insulated? i know my JDM one was..

oh and nicky, that sounds like a vacuum leak.. take some carb cleaner and spray it around the base of the intake manifold and whatever is attached to it.. if it starts to die out.. you found your leak

CAFROG · 06-24-2009, 04:37 PM

YES its insulated! You are the one that guided me to it at hmotorsonline.com!!
Well...the bottom of it is

eg6sir · 06-24-2009, 04:39 PM

i know i told you where to get it.. just wasnt sure if all of them are insulated in the bottom.. when i got mine i bought it off H-T

04-19-2009, 06:00 PM	#1
CAFROG Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NOR-CAL Age: 33 Posts: 976 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '92 Hatch si w/B16 (wannabe EG6) Rep Power: 26	My new swap. (EG SI B16) My '92 EG SI with a B16 (JDM). Great success!!! Just happy to finally get it in. It was definetly worth talking to people on this forum. It all went smoothly after I after i extended wires on the engine harness (D16Z6). I extended the O2, VTEC solenoid, and VTEC oil pressure. I also ran the knock sensor through the harness clips and to the ECU. And last was the MAP sensor needed to be mounted to the firewall and ran to the top of the throttle body. Thanks for all the help!!

04-20-2009, 11:20 AM	#4
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04-20-2009, 12:49 PM	#5
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04-20-2009, 02:57 PM	#6
CAFROG Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NOR-CAL Age: 33 Posts: 976 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '92 Hatch si w/B16 (wannabe EG6) Rep Power: 26	It took me a good three days with: Replace clutch/flywheel/timingbelt/waterpump/valvecover gasket I had to make a bracket to mount to the firewall for the MAP sensor (not attached to throttle body like USDM Hondas). Plus getting my knock sensor into the ECU plug was a time consuming experience. A little over 2 hours to take the LS swap out and 3.5 hours for the install of the B16. No Check Engine Light....just needed to advance the timing a little. Last edited by CAFROG; 06-09-2009 at 03:13 PM.

04-20-2009, 03:13 PM	#7
CAFROG Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NOR-CAL Age: 33 Posts: 976 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '92 Hatch si w/B16 (wannabe EG6) Rep Power: 26	. Last edited by CAFROG; 06-09-2009 at 03:13 PM.


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04-20-2009, 12:17 AM	#3
CAFROG Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NOR-CAL Age: 33 Posts: 976 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '92 Hatch si w/B16 (wannabe EG6) Rep Power: 26

04-21-2009, 12:33 AM	#8
nicky Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Age: 23 Posts: 23 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 2	Hey can you post more pictures of your MAP bracket? My MAP is not on the TB so I would have to do something about it before I do my swap. Thanks in advance. NICE clean RIDE!!!

04-21-2009, 12:46 PM	#9
CAFROG Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NOR-CAL Age: 33 Posts: 976 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '92 Hatch si w/B16 (wannabe EG6) Rep Power: 26	Here's the MAP sensor on the firewall. I just used the right side bolt of the fuel filter mount. I just took some semi thick sheet metal my dad had in the garage and marked the three holes for the map sensor (two for mounting and one big hole for the vacuum tube to attach to MAP sensor). Then I drilled another hole on the other side so I could run the Fuel filter bolt through it. Test fit it and bent it to my liking...then painted it and got a vacuum line that worked (about 8-10 inches long)

04-21-2009, 02:58 PM	#10
CAFROG Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NOR-CAL Age: 33 Posts: 976 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '92 Hatch si w/B16 (wannabe EG6) Rep Power: 26	The surge I feel is only when I give it more throttle then it wants (at the lower rpm) but I'm not sure if its from the motor sitting for so long or what. I put cheaper 10w-30 in it to flush it out and have synthetic that'll put in this weekend.

04-21-2009, 04:44 PM	#11
eastbxc Custom User Title Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kansas Age: 21 Posts: 787 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90 civic hatch Rep Power: 29	Looks very good. Why did you take the LS out for a B16? __________________ "the dude abides" myEF XBL-seabiscut88

04-21-2009, 04:54 PM	#12
CAFROG Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NOR-CAL Age: 33 Posts: 976 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '92 Hatch si w/B16 (wannabe EG6) Rep Power: 26	I wanted a different set up (LS since '98) and I wanted a VTEC Head/Trans. I plan on either selling the LS swap or keeping the bottom end and building and LS/VTEC later on (maybe this fall).

04-21-2009, 04:58 PM	#13
CAFROG Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NOR-CAL Age: 33 Posts: 976 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '92 Hatch si w/B16 (wannabe EG6) Rep Power: 26	Give me some rep points!! I know I'm new to the forum but I've had my EG since '96 and did both of my swaps myself.

04-21-2009, 06:00 PM	#14
nicky Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Age: 23 Posts: 23 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 2	Thanks bud. I'm sure I can fabricate something to that as well. REP point +1 from me LOL

04-24-2009, 12:36 AM	#15
CAFROG Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NOR-CAL Age: 33 Posts: 976 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '92 Hatch si w/B16 (wannabe EG6) Rep Power: 26	advanced the timing and it helped quite a bit. gonna check the TPS sensor this weekend and see if its reading correctly.

04-24-2009, 09:16 PM	#16
crvtt96 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: chi-town Age: 56 Posts: 48 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: B18C1 eg Hatch Rep Power: 13	Looks GOOD, Glad to see another clean install! Did you keep the A/C intact?

04-24-2009, 10:32 PM	#17
CAFROG Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NOR-CAL Age: 33 Posts: 976 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '92 Hatch si w/B16 (wannabe EG6) Rep Power: 26	I have it but need the lines from the pump to my connectors...plus I need new rubber rings because I was told if the system is empty...the seals will go bad ( I haven't had A/C since '98). But I have the pump for it and will have it up and running before it gets too hot

05-09-2009, 09:22 AM	#18
nicky Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Age: 23 Posts: 23 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 2	Hey when you mean surging how bad is it? This is my surging : And can't seem to fix it and therefor unable to put it on the road. And you advanced timing with the dizzy correct?

05-09-2009, 12:36 PM	#19
CAFROG Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NOR-CAL Age: 33 Posts: 976 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '92 Hatch si w/B16 (wannabe EG6) Rep Power: 26	wow....that is a trip. not sure whats up with that....sounds like fuel or a solenoid/sensor on the intake/throttle body. Check vacuum lines....sensors/solenoids for continuity. I advanced timing by jumping the service plug under my glove box and advanced timing by sound and figuring one millimeter was roughly one degree. counterclockwise rotation is advanced I put it on a gun and it looked like it was right on the money (16 degrees) I wonder if a mechanic retarded the timing in Japan so it could run lower octane gas?? My surge is coming from the lightened flywheel...i think. Someone told me about it and it makes sense because the hesitation is at low rpm and lightened flywheels can cause that

06-24-2009, 04:34 AM	#20
CAFROG Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NOR-CAL Age: 33 Posts: 976 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '92 Hatch si w/B16 (wannabe EG6) Rep Power: 26	Here's a pic with the OEM air box and A/C hooked up __________________ "Meow, you know how fast your were going back there?" http://hondaswap.com/hybrid-eg-ek-dc...si-b16-286581/

06-24-2009, 04:19 PM	#22
CAFROG Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NOR-CAL Age: 33 Posts: 976 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '92 Hatch si w/B16 (wannabe EG6) Rep Power: 26	its so the fuzz will leave me alone!!! The air box keeps them out of my engine bay! __________________ "Meow, you know how fast your were going back there?" http://hondaswap.com/hybrid-eg-ek-dc...si-b16-286581/

06-24-2009, 04:37 PM	#24
CAFROG Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NOR-CAL Age: 33 Posts: 976 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '92 Hatch si w/B16 (wannabe EG6) Rep Power: 26	YES its insulated! You are the one that guided me to it at hmotorsonline.com!! Well...the bottom of it is __________________ "Meow, you know how fast your were going back there?" http://hondaswap.com/hybrid-eg-ek-dc...si-b16-286581/

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