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Old 10-14-2007, 08:34 PM   #1
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Hello everyone! I'm new to the forums and just thought i'd say "Hey!"
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But um, hehe.. any way. On to the subject matter. . .

-My ride:-
1993 4dr Honda Civic
Black Paint Job
and everything but my sound system is stock.. As far as i know..

-What I want to do-

Swap my car with a B18C Engine
And hopefully push around 200WHP (maybe more if i feel like losing the MPG)

My questions:

1. I've heard that the B18C engine is a direct swap, and no need for engine mounts or anything like that. But, considering the B18C engine is Vtec, what would i have to do to connect the wires to my ECU?

2. Is it really all that difficult to do a swap like this?

3. When looking on ebay and other engine sites, i was thinking that i should get a set that comes with everything includeing the Tranny. Is this what is should do?

4. When i complete the swap and start looking for a new exaust system, do i look for an exaust system that is for the '93 Civic, or for the Integra which the new engine is coming out of? And what modifications, if any, would i have to do to get the exaust system on?

5. would it be more benificial for me to install a custom tach? or buying a gauge cluster that comes with a tach?

I hope these questions are easy enough to answer with out a whole lot of hassel.

any insight would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

*EDIT* I found this engine on Ebay, and it is advertise as a swap... Does it come with everything i'll need for a complete engine swap?

eBay Motors: JDM B18C HONDA/ACURA INTEGRA OBD1 GSR ENGINE SWAP- (item 280162095248 end time Oct-21-07 07:47:34 PDT)

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1. I've heard that the B18C engine is a direct swap, and no need for engine mounts or anything like that. But, considering the B18C engine is Vtec, what would i have to do to connect the wires to my ECU?
Fairly direct, yes. You use a mix of your Civics mounts, and the B series mounts. As far as wiring, which B18C, the GSR, or ITR? GSR also needs the IABs wired in. There's an article in the tech section about wiring vtec.

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2. Is it really all that difficult to do a swap like this?
If you are mechanically inclined it is very easy, pretty much just pull the old motor out, and drop the new motor in. Read about teh swap process, and buy a Helms manual for your car, there is a section on removing the mototr, and is very helpful with the process.

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3. When looking on ebay and other engine sites, i was thinking that i should get a set that comes with everything includeing the Tranny. Is this what is should do?
Yes, you should definitely look for a package that has everything you need to include, motor, tranny, axles, shiftlinkage, mounts. You can maybe get a better deal if you piece everything together form different sources, but I'd go for all in one.

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4. When i complete the swap and start looking for a new exaust system, do i look for an exaust system that is for the '93 Civic, or for the Integra which the new engine is coming out of? And what modifications, if any, would i have to do to get the exaust system on?
Get an exhaust for a Si model. The VX, and DX I believe the cat is right off the motor so if you get one for those models, you will have a gap. Really though, exhaust is one of the cheapest and easiest things to fix. I piece of pipe and a welder can solve almost anything.

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5. would it be more benificial for me to install a custom tach? or buying a gauge cluster that comes with a tach?
IMO you'd be doing just as good to get a gauge cluster with a tach in it.

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any insight would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!
This site is FILLED with insight and knowledge, read all you can, and enjoy.

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*EDIT* I found this engine on Ebay, and it is advertise as a swap... Does it come with everything i'll need for a complete engine swap?

eBay Motors: JDM B18C HONDA/ACURA INTEGRA OBD1 GSR ENGINE SWAP- (item 280162095248 end time Oct-21-07 07:47:34 PDT)
No, looks like it is missing mounts, and shiftlinkage. Other than that it looks ok.

INCLUDED WITH OUR HONDA/ACURA INTEGRA SWAPS:
  1. COMPLETE DOHC VTEC B18C OBD1 LONGBLOCK
  2. INTAKE MANIFOLD W/STOCK FUEL SYSTEM
  3. COMPLETE FACTORY EXHAUST MANIFOLD
  4. ALTERNATOR
  5. A/C COMPRESSOR
  6. POWER STEERING PUMP
  7. OBD 1 MANUAL ECU/ECM
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That pretty much covers it!

Check out Specializing in JDM-USDM Engines & Parts...hmotorsonline.com for your swap they're one of the best.
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haha xD
Whats parts are sellling? lol

Thanks for the link norcalGSR! Thats looks like a very nice site.

I found this engine on there http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc...age&item=30009

And i was wondering if it comes with a tranny, and just the option to upgrade to LSD for 300, or does it not come with a tranny at all?
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That's what you want.. the LSD is an upgrade if not you'll get the non-LSD trans as part of the package.
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okay awsome, thank you so much for the site.

Also one more question,
Do you guys know of a B18c engine diagram so i can start studying it and figuring out what all the parts are and stuff?
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okay awsome, thank you so much for the site.

Also one more question,
Do you guys know of a B18c engine diagram so i can start studying it and figuring out what all the parts are and stuff?
Howstuffworks.com will give you the basic overview of the engine (Pistons, cams, crank, yadda yadda), and then just google for B18 schematics, and similar and you'll find a bunch out there.

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Alright cool, thanks!

Hm.. I was just thinking...

If i buy the engine from the site i posted above (http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc...age&item=30009)... Would i have to do all of the Vtec rewiring like shown in this post

How to wire vtec

The reason i was thinking i wouldn't have to do the rewiring is because it says that the package includes the "ECU (P72)" And so, if it does include the ECU for that engine, i would just replace my NON Vtec ECU with the ECU that came with my car, right?
I'm a little confused right now... heh.. if you couldn't tell.
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Yeah you will still have to run the VTEC wiring, but it's not as hard as it seems. Your ECU will plug right in, but Honda didn't run the wires for VTEC in the harness unless it had it from the factory so basically you're just adding a few wires to the factory harness plugs from the ECU.
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ohh. . . ok

lol

I think i get it, thanks.
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