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hellspawn · 05-23-2006, 11:16 AM

Allright, I did a swap on my 93 Del Sol. Everything seams to be doing ok, but the motor does not seam to have as much power as it should. VTEC kicks in right around 5600rpms, idle is good, did a tune up and all. I think it might be fuel related. I changed the filter and used a computer which was spozed to work with a B18C1. When you do this swap, should you replace the stock fuel pump with an aftermarket high flow pump? I'm gonna take it to the dyno this weekend and see what i'm putting on the ground. Should be about 170hp, right? If anyone can think of something i forgot to do with the swap, please let me know! Thanks,
-Steve

wanderinman · 05-23-2006, 07:39 PM

I dont know what you should be putting to the ground, but I would expect 130's. 170 is the rated HP at the flywheel, not the wheels.

HatchSpeeD · 05-24-2006, 01:02 AM

Thats a lot of drivetrain lost. I would say 150's to the wheels for a GSR. Lowest, high 140's.

wanderinman · 05-24-2006, 12:12 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(HatchSpeeD @ May 24 2006, 01:02 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Thats a lot of drivetrain lost. I would say 150's to the wheels for a GSR. Lowest, high 140's.
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Or 150's [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]

GSRCIVICTN · 05-24-2006, 11:21 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(b18 del sol @ May 23 2006, 10:16 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Allright, I did a swap on my 93 Del Sol. Everything seams to be doing ok, but the motor does not seam to have as much power as it should. VTEC kicks in right around 5600rpms, idle is good, did a tune up and all. I think it might be fuel related. I changed the filter and used a computer which was spozed to work with a B18C1. When you do this swap, should you replace the stock fuel pump with an aftermarket high flow pump? I'm gonna take it to the dyno this weekend and see what i'm putting on the ground. Should be about 170hp, right? If anyone can think of something i forgot to do with the swap, please let me know! Thanks,
-Steve
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So you have a ecu that is "spozed" to work with that engine. Hmmm...
Might want to try a p72 that IS made for that engine. I was thinking vtec should kick in sooner than 5600.
You don't have to swap the pump as long as your old one is still putting out good pressure.

qtmac_mien · 05-25-2006, 05:50 AM

my vtec kiks in around 4500 and my secondaries at 6000.. stock jdm obd2a p72

killercannible · 05-25-2006, 11:25 PM

5600 is when vtec kicks in on a stock single vtec ecu, that might be your problem. My buddy ran one unchipped on a b16 and it flooded going down the road. USE A P72, they are not hard to find and plug right in, WHY USE ANYTHING ELSE [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img] . just my input [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif[/img] good luck

05-23-2006, 07:39 PM	#2
wanderinman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 863 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 18	I dont know what you should be putting to the ground, but I would expect 130's. 170 is the rated HP at the flywheel, not the wheels. __________________ 1991 Accord Sedan - 5 Speed Newest Project 96 LS Sedan - GETTING PARTED OUT - PM ME IF YOU WANT SOMETHING INSTALLED - 15" Bronze Ikon wheels w/ Kumho ASX tires, Eibach sportlines, DC Sports catback, greddy header, Bosch +4 plugs, brembo rotors, Hawk HPS pads, Exedy clutch Vouches: driverunknown, 97CTR

05-24-2006, 12:12 PM	#4
wanderinman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 863 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 18	<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(HatchSpeeD @ May 24 2006, 01:02 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'> Thats a lot of drivetrain lost. I would say 150's to the wheels for a GSR. Lowest, high 140's. [/b][/quote] Or 150's [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ 1991 Accord Sedan - 5 Speed Newest Project 96 LS Sedan - GETTING PARTED OUT - PM ME IF YOU WANT SOMETHING INSTALLED - 15" Bronze Ikon wheels w/ Kumho ASX tires, Eibach sportlines, DC Sports catback, greddy header, Bosch +4 plugs, brembo rotors, Hawk HPS pads, Exedy clutch Vouches: driverunknown, 97CTR

05-25-2006, 05:50 AM	#6
qtmac_mien Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 290 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	my vtec kiks in around 4500 and my secondaries at 6000.. stock jdm obd2a p72 __________________ AIM: shrtxqtxmienxboi email: qtmac_mien@hotmail.com

05-25-2006, 11:25 PM	#7
killercannible Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 629 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 16	5600 is when vtec kicks in on a stock single vtec ecu, that might be your problem. My buddy ran one unchipped on a b16 and it flooded going down the road. USE A P72, they are not hard to find and plug right in, WHY USE ANYTHING ELSE [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img] . just my input [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif[/img] good luck __________________ Got my swap!!! Needs to be faster.


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05-23-2006, 11:16 AM	#1
hellspawn Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 5 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	Allright, I did a swap on my 93 Del Sol. Everything seams to be doing ok, but the motor does not seam to have as much power as it should. VTEC kicks in right around 5600rpms, idle is good, did a tune up and all. I think it might be fuel related. I changed the filter and used a computer which was spozed to work with a B18C1. When you do this swap, should you replace the stock fuel pump with an aftermarket high flow pump? I'm gonna take it to the dyno this weekend and see what i'm putting on the ground. Should be about 170hp, right? If anyone can think of something i forgot to do with the swap, please let me know! Thanks, -Steve

05-24-2006, 01:02 AM	#3
HatchSpeeD ...Hi... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Beantown Posts: 1,237 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 26	Thats a lot of drivetrain lost. I would say 150's to the wheels for a GSR. Lowest, high 140's.

05-24-2006, 11:21 PM	#5
GSRCIVICTN Lost in a sea of rednecks Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Nashville, TN Age: 31 Posts: 431 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 5th Generation Honda Civics Rep Power: 12	<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(b18 del sol @ May 23 2006, 10:16 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'> Allright, I did a swap on my 93 Del Sol. Everything seams to be doing ok, but the motor does not seam to have as much power as it should. VTEC kicks in right around 5600rpms, idle is good, did a tune up and all. I think it might be fuel related. I changed the filter and used a computer which was spozed to work with a B18C1. When you do this swap, should you replace the stock fuel pump with an aftermarket high flow pump? I'm gonna take it to the dyno this weekend and see what i'm putting on the ground. Should be about 170hp, right? If anyone can think of something i forgot to do with the swap, please let me know! Thanks, -Steve [/b][/quote] So you have a ecu that is "spozed" to work with that engine. Hmmm... Might want to try a p72 that IS made for that engine. I was thinking vtec should kick in sooner than 5600. You don't have to swap the pump as long as your old one is still putting out good pressure.

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