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.:i.lIKE:.:eK9:.:lOTs:. · 10-17-2007, 08:37 PM

Hey All -

I will be adding a rear strut brace to my Civic EK hatch in the near future. There are 2 distinctly different designs I am considering.

1 is the TDM X Bar. It is a knock off of the more expensive Miracle X Bars.

The 2nd is the Password JDM 4 Point Strut Bars. Both look solid but attach to different points in the car.

Which one would be stiffer and why?

Here are some pics of each type:

eg6sir · 10-17-2007, 08:41 PM

i like the password jdm strut bars personally.. its more subtle than the x-bar

.:i.lIKE:.:eK9:.:lOTs:. · 10-17-2007, 10:11 PM

yeah I think on looks alone I would prolly go with the password:jdm one. but I want to know which one performs better and why.

I can get the raw one powdercoated.

thnx!

norcalgsr · 10-18-2007, 02:00 AM

That rollcage in the first pic would make your chassis stronger than either of those braces...

But the password bar ties the rearward points to where the ITR has a second brace, so I would pick the password bar due to that reason. And if you really want to you can buy a second bar that ties those two seat belt anchor's up top together as well, although I've never seen any proof that it really does anything.

.:i.lIKE:.:eK9:.:lOTs:. · 10-18-2007, 12:29 PM

Interesting note that the password bar ties to where the Honda engineers reinforced for the Type R. I would prolly pick it for that reason - no way anyone can come up with something better than those guys!

Also it makes sense that the top bar is less affected than the points closer to the chasis.

eg6sir · 10-18-2007, 12:45 PM

well the X-bar connects to the c-pillars.. so... read this

C-Pillar bars

.:i.lIKE:.:eK9:.:lOTs:. · 10-18-2007, 01:26 PM

there are some interesting points in that C-Pillar article.

sounds like most of the flex happens closer to the struts themselves and less at the C-pillar although a hatch would benefit more from C-Pillar reinforcement.

I remember once when we had the front left of my hatch jacked off of the ground and I opened the rear hatch - the thing was flexing and the hatch didn't line up to close!

so what about the password:jdm 4 point bars? are they even worth it?

eg6sir · 10-18-2007, 01:27 PM

sure..

.:i.lIKE:.:eK9:.:lOTs:. · 10-18-2007, 01:56 PM

sure... what do you mean?

I'm sure it would help some too!

eg6sir · 10-18-2007, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .:i.lIKE:.:eK9:.:lOTs:.

so what about the password:jdm 4 point bars? are they even worth it?

sure

10-17-2007, 08:37 PM	#1
.:i.lIKE:.:eK9:.:lOTs:. Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 132 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 8	What 4 Point Rear Strut Brace is Better? Hey All - I will be adding a rear strut brace to my Civic EK hatch in the near future. There are 2 distinctly different designs I am considering. 1 is the TDM X Bar. It is a knock off of the more expensive Miracle X Bars. The 2nd is the Password JDM 4 Point Strut Bars. Both look solid but attach to different points in the car. Which one would be stiffer and why? Here are some pics of each type: Attached Thumbnails Last edited by .:i.lIKE:.:eK9:.:lOTs:.; 10-17-2007 at 08:38 PM. Reason: forgot to add pics

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10-17-2007, 10:11 PM	#3
.:i.lIKE:.:eK9:.:lOTs:. Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 132 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 8	yeah I think on looks alone I would prolly go with the password:jdm one. but I want to know which one performs better and why. I can get the raw one powdercoated. thnx!

10-18-2007, 02:00 AM	#4
norcalgsr Honda Master Technician Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NorCal Age: 27 Posts: 1,168 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 88 Prelude Si and a CBR 600 Hurricane Rep Power: 21	That rollcage in the first pic would make your chassis stronger than either of those braces... But the password bar ties the rearward points to where the ITR has a second brace, so I would pick the password bar due to that reason. And if you really want to you can buy a second bar that ties those two seat belt anchor's up top together as well, although I've never seen any proof that it really does anything.

10-18-2007, 12:29 PM	#5
.:i.lIKE:.:eK9:.:lOTs:. Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 132 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 8	Interesting note that the password bar ties to where the Honda engineers reinforced for the Type R. I would prolly pick it for that reason - no way anyone can come up with something better than those guys! Also it makes sense that the top bar is less affected than the points closer to the chasis.

10-18-2007, 01:26 PM	#7
.:i.lIKE:.:eK9:.:lOTs:. Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 132 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 8	there are some interesting points in that C-Pillar article. sounds like most of the flex happens closer to the struts themselves and less at the C-pillar although a hatch would benefit more from C-Pillar reinforcement. I remember once when we had the front left of my hatch jacked off of the ground and I opened the rear hatch - the thing was flexing and the hatch didn't line up to close! so what about the password:jdm 4 point bars? are they even worth it?

10-18-2007, 01:56 PM	#9
.:i.lIKE:.:eK9:.:lOTs:. Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 132 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 8	sure... what do you mean? I'm sure it would help some too!

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