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Zig78 · 08-24-2006, 12:19 AM

Hello everyone I'm new.

I've got an '02 EM2 with a D17A2 and I'm looking to swap it out since I basically trashed it. Yeah, I know. Hard to believe right? Well, It was an accident, and yes, I'd love to fix it but if it's going to cost me load anyways, I may as well swap it.

Anyways, I was reading about the K24 Accord/Element engine swapping into our vehicles with a K20A3 5-spd tranny with the K20A2 cylinder head. Sometimes they use TSX pistons, and sometimes not, but Honda Tuning has a great 11:1 compression N/A version of something like this running ~250hp at the wheels. I'd just like to see 200hp. It requires a Hasport mount, but what doesn't?

Any ideas? I don't have a ton of cash to buy anything for the most part, but I know I can get it if I grab one part at a time. I want in on this.

Anyone on this board tried this swap?

Calesta · 08-24-2006, 10:13 PM

I know people have- but the only one I know personally is the guy that had the very first one done out in California. I couldn't tell you the shop name offhand, but I went to school with the dude for a very long time.

The swap is fairly expensive, and quite a few shops won't even touch the K swaps because of the cost. You might want to add up all the numbers in your head and see if buying another car might be a better choice than building such an expensive engine setup. I don't want to discourage you- just understand that a K24/K20A2 setup can get pretty damn expensive.

Zig78 · 08-24-2006, 10:25 PM

Well, I've got an update.

I basically have found a TSX motor with a tranny but I haven't had a chance to talk to the seller.

How hard would it be to put a TSX motor in the EM2?

=)

Calesta · 08-24-2006, 10:30 PM

About the same difficulty as a K20, but it's taller and you have to deal with the electronic throttle.

Zig78 · 08-24-2006, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calesta

About the same difficulty as a K20, but it's taller and you have to deal with the electronic throttle.

I've been looking for articles detailing this, but my Honda Tuning doesn't really provide much detail.

Let's say I picked up the engine plus 6 spd transmission for $3000, how much total cost ball park figure would you give the entire project?

Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks again for a wonderful site.

(sorry about the double-post, but I saw that I hit the wrong forum for EM2 Civic's)

~Z~

Turtal · 08-27-2006, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zig78

Well, I've got an update.

I basically have found a TSX motor with a tranny but I haven't had a chance to talk to the seller.

How hard would it be to put a TSX motor in the EM2?

=)

Where did u find ur motor and how much?? How many miles?

Zig78 · 08-27-2006, 11:48 AM

Lets say I know someone with a TSX with a totalled rear clip...

I'm looking for the hidden costs.

Calesta · 08-27-2006, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zig78

I've been looking for articles detailing this, but my Honda Tuning doesn't really provide much detail.

Let's say I picked up the engine plus 6 spd transmission for $3000, how much total cost ball park figure would you give the entire project?

Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks again for a wonderful site.

(sorry about the double-post, but I saw that I hit the wrong forum for EM2 Civic's)

~Z~

I honestly don't know what the total cost would be. Sorry.

Turtal · 08-27-2006, 10:09 PM

Lucky you

Seany-izzle · 08-29-2006, 06:18 PM

K20A.org .:. The K Series Source . Honda / Acura K20a k24a Engine Forum

here is a link to a thread showing a k24 in a em1.. its an EXTREMELY tight fit.. Honda-Tech.com: K'd out (K20 EG and K24 EM)

Honda-Tech.com: Official EM2 w/k20 swap photo page. Post-up.

im debating a k swap, but 8k for a fucking 200 hp stock motor doesnt really sit well with me... i could spend 5.5k and get a b18c5....

08-24-2006, 12:19 AM	#1
Zig78 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	K24 swap Hello everyone I'm new. I've got an '02 EM2 with a D17A2 and I'm looking to swap it out since I basically trashed it. Yeah, I know. Hard to believe right? Well, It was an accident, and yes, I'd love to fix it but if it's going to cost me load anyways, I may as well swap it. Anyways, I was reading about the K24 Accord/Element engine swapping into our vehicles with a K20A3 5-spd tranny with the K20A2 cylinder head. Sometimes they use TSX pistons, and sometimes not, but Honda Tuning has a great 11:1 compression N/A version of something like this running ~250hp at the wheels. I'd just like to see 200hp. It requires a Hasport mount, but what doesn't? Any ideas? I don't have a ton of cash to buy anything for the most part, but I know I can get it if I grab one part at a time. I want in on this. Anyone on this board tried this swap?

08-24-2006, 10:13 PM	#2
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	I know people have- but the only one I know personally is the guy that had the very first one done out in California. I couldn't tell you the shop name offhand, but I went to school with the dude for a very long time. The swap is fairly expensive, and quite a few shops won't even touch the K swaps because of the cost. You might want to add up all the numbers in your head and see if buying another car might be a better choice than building such an expensive engine setup. I don't want to discourage you- just understand that a K24/K20A2 setup can get pretty damn expensive. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

08-24-2006, 10:25 PM	#3
Zig78 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	Good news Well, I've got an update. I basically have found a TSX motor with a tranny but I haven't had a chance to talk to the seller. How hard would it be to put a TSX motor in the EM2? =)

08-24-2006, 10:30 PM	#4
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	About the same difficulty as a K20, but it's taller and you have to deal with the electronic throttle. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

08-27-2006, 11:48 AM	#7
Zig78 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	doh Lets say I know someone with a TSX with a totalled rear clip... I'm looking for the hidden costs.


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08-27-2006, 10:09 PM	#9
Turtal The little K20 that could Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NC Age: 25 Posts: 3 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 05 civic si Rep Power: 0	Lucky you __________________ I wana VTEC too

08-29-2006, 06:18 PM	#10
Seany-izzle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: In a fucking house. Age: 25 Posts: 7,751 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 96	K20A.org .:. The K Series Source . Honda / Acura K20a k24a Engine Forum here is a link to a thread showing a k24 in a em1.. its an EXTREMELY tight fit.. Honda-Tech.com: K'd out (K20 EG and K24 EM) Honda-Tech.com: Official EM2 w/k20 swap photo page. Post-up. im debating a k swap, but 8k for a fucking 200 hp stock motor doesnt really sit well with me... i could spend 5.5k and get a b18c5.... __________________ My name is Sean.

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