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morenaje05 · 04-12-2009, 10:10 PM

if i were to put a itr cylinder head in a gsr motor will it still run the same or what would be the good and bads or if anything any help please. and if i can then what can i do to mkae better?

D15Beater · 04-12-2009, 11:58 PM

Poor mans type-R, google search videos, its been done.

oyy0 · 04-20-2009, 11:25 AM

The poormans is the b16 head on a gsr block.
A ITR head is not considered something a poor man can buy.

D15Beater · 04-20-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by oyy0

The poormans is the b16 head on a gsr block.
A ITR head is not considered something a poor man can buy.

The Type R head and intake manifold are the same as a B16's, the casting is the same but the cams are different. I could be wrong though, from what ive always heard is theyre are the same so its pointless spending the extra cash just because its from a B18c5 engine. Then again I could be mistaken. Of course a non GSR head on a GSR block to me is still a POOR MANS TYPE R.....IMO.

oyy0 · 04-20-2009, 12:29 PM

no way, the b16 head doesn't have anywhere as near as good flow as the ITR. well it does but it still does not flow as good and the b16 does not have dual valve springs.
now the intake manifold is pretty much true but not completely.
still... the ITR head goes for twice as much as the b16... its just too expensive.

SlushboxTeggy · 04-20-2009, 12:32 PM

Not worth it at all. Not for the price anyway. Neither head is all that much better than the other. Its mostly the components used in them that make any difference. Minus that, the type R has minor head work and the GSR has quench combustion chambers

brian11to1 · 04-22-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by D15Beater

The Type R head and intake manifold are the same as a B16's, the casting is the same but the cams are different. I could be wrong though, from what ive always heard is theyre are the same so its pointless spending the extra cash just because its from a B18c5 engine. Then again I could be mistaken. Of course a non GSR head on a GSR block to me is still a POOR MANS TYPE R.....IMO.

Valves, springs, retainers (maybe), throttle body and overall tuning are what sets the ITR engine apart from the other B series variants.

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Originally Posted by oyy0

no way, the b16 head doesn't have anywhere as near as good flow as the ITR. well it does but it still does not flow as good and the b16 does not have dual valve springs.
now the intake manifold is pretty much true but not completely.
still... the ITR head goes for twice as much as the b16... its just too expensive.

Flow is debateable. Has any reputable shop ever compared a ITR head to a B16 head or a GSR head? If not then it doesnt really matter.

I do agree buying a Type R head is pointless because you can always send a good core to a GOOD porter and flow more for less (in some cases)

Ya...

If you do do this swap you will need a new headgasket, valve cover gasket set and upper radiator hose.

B · 04-22-2009, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SlushboxTeggy

Not worth it at all.

agreed.

you'll gain like 3 hp out of it, and end up spending 1500 bucks (head, fluids, gaskets, intake manifold, p73 ecu)

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D15Beater HNFTuning Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Concord N.C. Posts: 551 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: or die.... Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 20	Poor mans type-R, google search videos, its been done.

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oyy0 Sleepy... Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 27 Posts: 83 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '05 DC5, '93 FD, '85 AE86 Rep Power: 7	The poormans is the b16 head on a gsr block. A ITR head is not considered something a poor man can buy.

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oyy0 Sleepy... Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 27 Posts: 83 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '05 DC5, '93 FD, '85 AE86 Rep Power: 7	no way, the b16 head doesn't have anywhere as near as good flow as the ITR. well it does but it still does not flow as good and the b16 does not have dual valve springs. now the intake manifold is pretty much true but not completely. still... the ITR head goes for twice as much as the b16... its just too expensive.

04-20-2009, 12:32 PM	#6
SlushboxTeggy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 24 Posts: 6,811 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1997 Integra Rep Power: 210	Not worth it at all. Not for the price anyway. Neither head is all that much better than the other. Its mostly the components used in them that make any difference. Minus that, the type R has minor head work and the GSR has quench combustion chambers

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