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pissedoffsol · 06-24-2004, 08:44 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/06/22/...tage/index.html

Kim Sun-il is beheaded

NotUrAverage_Si · 06-24-2004, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by pissedoffsol@Jun 24 2004, 05:44 AM
Kim Sun-il is beheaded

saw it on the news last night...

this needs to end. if I were george bush, my finger would so be hovering over the nuclear missile button.

ilikepie · 06-24-2004, 12:09 PM

Now is this one real or is it more propaghanda?

92b16vx · 06-24-2004, 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by ilikepie@Jun 24 2004, 05:09 PM
Now is this one real or is it more propaghanda?

I've seen the video, it is real.

Anyway, South Koreas reaction should be to send 10,000 troops, and everytime they try to behead someone with a demand, everyone should do exactly the opposite. They want prisoners released? Fuck em, we imprison a hundred more, they want troops out, we send more in.

On a side note, US led Afghanistan soldiers (not US soldiers) beheaded four Al-Coward soldiers a few days ago, because they were involved in the beheading of two other US supported Afghan soldiers (one was a civilian or something).

dohcvtec_accord · 06-24-2004, 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by 92b16vx@Jun 24 2004, 09:22 AM
On a side note, US led Afghanistan soldiers (not US soldiers) beheaded four Al-Coward soldiers a few days ago, because they were involved in the beheading of two other US supported Afghan soldiers (one was a civilian or something).

For real? Link to story/pics/video?

NotUrAverage_Si · 06-24-2004, 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by dohcvtec_accord+Jun 24 2004, 10:25 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dohcvtec_acc ord @ Jun 24 2004, 10:25 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-92b16vx@Jun 24 2004, 09:22 AM
On a side note, US led Afghanistan soldiers (not US soldiers) beheaded four Al-Coward soldiers a few days ago, because they were involved in the beheading of two other US supported Afghan soldiers (one was a civilian or something).

For real? Link to story/pics/video? [/b][/quote]
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=903566

It was in the New York Times, also:

NY Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06....html

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Afghans Behead 4 Taliban
By REUTERS
Published: June 23, 2004

ANDAHAR, Afghanistan, June 22 (Reuters) — Afghan soldiers have beheaded four Taliban fighters in retaliation for the Taliban's beheading of an Afghan soldier and an Afghan interpreter for American-led forces, a government commander said Tuesday.

The soldier and the interpreter were beheaded after becoming separated from a patrol of Afghan and American-led foreign troops in the Arghandab district of the southern province of Zabul on Monday night, Namatullah Tokhi, commander of the government's 27th Division in the province, said in an interview.

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He said government troops later captured and killed four Taliban guerrillas in the same way.

"They cut off their heads with a knife," he said of the Taliban action, "so when our forces arrested four Taliban, we cut off their heads too."

Zabul and adjoining southern provinces have been the battleground for deadly clashes between Taliban guerrillas and American-led and government forces since the Taliban were overthrown in late 2001.

Taliban fighters have beheaded government soldiers in the past, but this is the first publicly disclosed time that government forces have retaliated in the same manner, an escalation of a conflict that has claimed hundreds.

The Taliban and their Islamic militant allies, including Al Qaeda, have declared a holy war against American-led forces and consider foreign and local aid workers legitimate targets as well as foreign and government soldiers and officials.

The guerrillas have vowed to disrupt elections planned for September.

In late May, soldiers from the 20,000-member American-led force in Afghanistan began a sweeping campaign against the militants in southern provinces, including Zabul, to improve conditions for the elections.

JDMilan · 06-24-2004, 03:49 PM

sucks man, RIP

E_SolSi · 06-24-2004, 03:52 PM

mother fuckers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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When the body of Kim Sun-il, murdered and beheaded by Islamic terrorists, was found yesterday about 20 miles west of Baghdad near Falluja , it was discovered that a booby trap had been installed in his body.

On the road between Baghdad and Falluja, American forces located a body assumed to be that of an Asian, which an officer from Korean Embassy to Iraq and Kim Chun-ho, president of Gana General Trading Co., identified.

“It looks like the body was thrown from a vehicle, and the body was beheaded,” said Mark Kimmitt, coalition deputy operations chief and spokesman of American forces in Iraq.

“A booby trap was placed in Kim’s body,” reported CNN, quoting Pentagon sources. A booby trap is an explosive device, which is designed to blow up on contact. It appears that Iraqi insurgents were hoping to kill coalition forces or rescuers recovering Kim’s body. Outrage at the brutality of a terrorist organization that abducted Kim exploded after people learned that Kim’s body had been booby-trapped.

92b16vx · 06-24-2004, 03:56 PM

^^^sweetness.

I want to know how they booby trapped the body, then threw it out of a car. Booby traps are one thing I am trained in, and I tell you, it'd be real hard to do. I'm guessing they placed it on the side of the road, not threw.

E_SolSi · 06-24-2004, 04:08 PM

just saw the video of the beheading

..... damn....

dohcvtec_accord · 06-24-2004, 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by E_SolSi@Jun 24 2004, 01:08 PM
just saw the video of the beheading

..... damn....

Yeah, it was worse than the other one.

Pave the place...

dohcvtec_accord · 06-24-2004, 06:21 PM

Our soldiers scared the shit out of the prisoners (read: PRISONERS) and humiliated them. Those wastes of human life kill people, usually innocent.

Both are wrong on one level or another.

But don't even try to compare one with the other. It's not even close.

You have to admit, if the Middle East weren't so back-asswards with their religious, social and cultural views, MANY of the problems that are plaguing the world today wouldn't exist. The degredation of women, refusal to move forward with technology, etc. are directly contributing to the animalistic and reactionary politics and actions of the Middle East.

When people like me say things like "Pave it" or "nuke it", of course we're not serious. It's a reaction to the disgusting and backwards principles and policies that people in the Middle East commit every day. The world is moving forward, but many Middle Easterners refuse to go with it. Their jealousy and anger toward a world that's leaving them behind, by their choice, is quite a juxtaposition.

When the people on this board, and in the rest of the country, see the shit that our soldiers and civilians have to put up with over there on a daily basis, we get upset and feel like personally taking a baseball bat to the heads of anyone we can find over there. It's in anger that we suggest things like paving or nuking the country.

So don't get your panties in a wad when someone says something along those lines.

92b16vx · 06-24-2004, 07:34 PM

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Originally posted by dohcvtec_accord@Jun 24 2004, 11:21 PM
You have to admit, if the Middle East weren't so back-asswards with their religious, social and cultural views, MANY of the problems that are plaguing the world today wouldn't exist. The degredation of women, refusal to move forward with technology, etc. are directly contributing to the animalistic and reactionary politics and actions of the Middle East.

Alright you, that's enough of that, you can blame it on ANYONE, EXCEPT those who are at fault damn it.

Blanco, you're not even worth the time anymore with boring assbackwards rhetoric.

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So because we don't like them killing civilians, you're suggesting that we kill every man, woman and child in the entire area?

Do you really think that anyone on this board could live with making a descision like that, killing a WHOLE race? It's called a knee jerk reaction, get over it. You don't have to spew forth your anti establishment BS everytime someone has one. Maybe if you stopped letting your hate for the world around you muddle your senses, you'd see that what is going on is well beyand the scope of your narrow vision.

pissedoffsol · 06-25-2004, 12:18 AM

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Originally posted by Blanco@Jun 24 2004, 05:56 PM
So because we don't like them killing civilians, you're suggesting that we kill every man, woman and child in the entire area?

yes.

I'm sick of all of them.

fuck them all.

Where the fuck is Hitler when you need him?

pack those fuckers onto trains, make them cut rocks, and eventaully, burn thier asses in stoves.

Innocent children civilians now = Al kafuckups in 10 years.

pissedoffsol · 06-25-2004, 12:18 AM

and for the record,

I'm Serious.

**Tonyd0821** · 06-25-2004, 01:02 AM

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Originally posted by pissedoffsol@Jun 24 2004, 11:18 PM

Where the fuck is Hitler when you need him?

thanks for stealing my line.....

Havok · 06-25-2004, 01:11 AM

Eric and I have been saying it for years

Frankie P. · 06-25-2004, 01:59 AM

I just want to say that I say 'nuke the bastards as well. They don't care about people that our civilians over there so why should we? Also we should make the same statement as the US in WWII when we bombed Japan. "Less lives would be lost if we just nuke them." Sounds good to me, less Americans/Civilians would die, therefore we should just nuke the ragheads.

Celerity · 06-25-2004, 02:40 AM

In the 60's, after the US setup it's interim government and reform in Korea, South Korea was still a bloodbath. It took YEARS to get South Korea to the status it currently enjoys.

And South Korea was our Iraq, 50 years ago.

If we stay in Iraq, and proceed with our efforts, perhaps in 50 years you'll see a free and modern Iraq supporting good (As in opposite of evil) actions in world human rights maneuvers.

If I have used too many big words, lemme reiterate:
South Korea has made a very difficult decision - One that they never bargainned for. They decided to stand strong in the Coalition forces not because of the valiant efforts of strong (And I do mean STRONG) support of England, Japan or even the U.S. They are doing it because they know first hand the kind of life can await Iraq if this new government goes in place, and if the Iraq people are lifted from a totalitarian regime.

-> Steve

Words are still too big. Just grunt if you need help.

Guy · 06-25-2004, 03:29 AM

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Originally posted by Frankie P.@Jun 25 2004, 12:59 AM
I just want to say that I say 'nuke the bastards as well. They don't care about people that our civilians over there so why should we? Also we should make the same statement as the US in WWII when we bombed Japan. "Less lives would be lost if we just nuke them." Sounds good to me, less Americans/Civilians would die, therefore we should just nuke the ragheads.

Do you even understand the implications of what you are writting? To be sure, with your lack of ability to think critically, i commend you on your ability to even write. beyond that, apply your rationale to the America of the past. A group of Angry white men form a club because they dont like black people and their infiltration into their restrooms/water fountains/swimming pools. They decide to brutally beat and hang a number of strong willed black people, not only as an act of "retribution", but as a warning to black people in the future who may try and defy the status quo. Are you seeing where i am going with this? Basicaly it ends with bombing to shit all white people because of their lack of respect for the lives of humans.
I am honestly sorry that you are not able to discern between the actions of an extremist faction and the general members of the middle eastern populace. In my goal of becoming a teacher in the public education system im hoping to facilitate learning in such a way that all of my students will be able to see the implications of their statements. For the time asking ill simply ask that you think before you make a statement. A "knee-jerk" reaction is no excuse for endorsing genoside of a race based on the actions of extremist groups. Perhaps in a spoken conversation something like that could slide (especially if they recind it later) but we all read these words as we are writting them, and i think that should give us the perspective that we need to give a little thought to what we are writting, and not make rash statements.

K2e2vin · 06-25-2004, 03:38 AM

fuck you guys write too much...im read the rest of this thread tomorrow

Frankie P. · 06-25-2004, 03:55 AM

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Do you even understand the implications of what you are writting? To be sure, with your lack of ability to think critically, i commend you on your ability to even write. beyond that, apply your rationale to the America of the past. A group of Angry white men form a club because they dont like black people and their infiltration into their restrooms/water fountains/swimming pools. They decide to brutally beat and hang a number of strong willed black people, not only as an act of "retribution", but as a warning to black people in the future who may try and defy the status quo. Are you seeing where i am going with this? Basicaly it ends with bombing to shit all white people because of their lack of respect for the lives of humans.

I am honestly sorry that you are not able to discern between the actions of an extremist faction and the general members of the middle eastern populace. In my goal of becoming a teacher in the public education system im hoping to facilitate learning in such a way that all of my students will be able to see the implications of their statements. For the time asking ill simply ask that you think before you make a statement. A "knee-jerk" reaction is no excuse for endorsing genoside of a race based on the actions of extremist groups. Perhaps in a spoken conversation something like that could slide (especially if they recind it later) but we all read these words as we are writting them, and i think that should give us the perspective that we need to give a little thought to what we are writting, and not make rash statements.

Do you have some personal grudge against me? Am I the only one who said to Nuke the bastards, are all Americans white? I know I am not white, but I consider myself American. I know blacks, asians, hispanics, whites, irish, Indian, Native Americans, Jews, Germans I can go on forever. America doesn't have a specific race, unless you consider native americans. So in order for you to call me a racist is just idiotic. As for you being a teahcer, aren't teachers supposed to be impartial when teaching their students, unless of course in a private school? I know exactly what I said, NUKE IRAQ plain and simple, did I honestly mean it? Of course not, if I was in the situation, I wouldn't push the button. I have to agree with Celerity, liberals bitch and complain about how idiotic and wrong this war is, but in 10-15 years IMO, when Iraq is self-governing, and our economy is doing extremely well, you will rescend those statements. So Guy, since you are so liberal and have a strong sense of the 1st amendment, I say "Nuke the bastards, they are not the only Arabs in the world." OH, and if you think I am serious, get some sort of sense.

B16RacerN2NR · 06-25-2004, 06:25 AM

How about we cut their dicks off, along with thier heads. Stick their own dick in the heads mouth and send it to their family!!

dohcvtec_accord · 06-25-2004, 09:56 AM

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Originally posted by Blanco@Jun 24 2004, 05:26 PM
And when people like me say that we're disgusted with the way the military treated HUMAN BEINGS, we get called communits and terrorists. The Geneva Convention says that you can shoot a man dead on the streets for posing a "preceived threat" but once you take him into custory you can not deny him his human rights. Do you honestly think that the Arab world cares that those were "just prisoners"? No. They see the great bastion of hope and freedom behaiving exactly like the dictator that was just removed and in the same location. It adds to the anti-American sentiment that's already so strong in the Muslim world. They felt the same outrage that Americans are feeling right now. That's why radicals are giving us "a taste of our own medicine". Don't forget about the detainies who were killed during interogation, by U.S. soldiers. You either believe in human rights or you don't, there is no middle ground on that topic. In other words, a nice guy who's an asshole to the waiter isn't really a nice guy.

And yes, the Middle-East is very traditional in their thinking. But don't forget that our (the Western World) ancestors loved to behead people and burn them at the stake. There are various devices and methods of torture I could go into from the rack, to the iron maiden, to drawing and quartering. The difference being, we evolved as a culture and they've stayed in a time warp of sorts. And many people argue that we are still a very barbaric society, ourselves. It's the anger of America that is also a huge problem. Did you know that world community considers America to be the single largest threat to world peace, not the Middle-East?

You get your panties in wad over our soldiers and civillians, how do you think Arabs feel seeing their civillians get wholesale slaughtered? Or does that not matter? You're trying to rationalize an impulsive outburst of aggression, there is no rational for it. I can honestly say that because I used to be a very impulsive and violent person. If you impuslively say "fuck you, you stupid cunt" to your wife because she just did something that made you mad, and is oddly enough something she's seen you do time and time again, is that ok because of the outrage that you felt? Or is it still wrong, no matter what the intent was? I get my "panties in a wad" because of the blatant hypocricy of such statements and you people don't even seem to realize how hypocritical you're being...nor do you seem to care. Hypocricy is hypocricy, no matter how you slice and fry it.

First off, don't use the word "detainees". It takes away from what those people are/were - prisoners. You're buying into (or conciously propagating) the same liberal BS that the news likes to spew to make it seem worse that we're holding PRISONERS. Of WAR.

And see, in your second paragraph, you say "ancestors". As in, hundreds of years ago. The world has moved on, and the Middle East is stuck in a quagmire that they're unwilling to climb out of. Don't turn away from the argument and start pointing at the Western world (that's what you did). If the Middle East could pull their heads out of the sand, we could move on. They're not, so we're not.

Also, this statement:

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Did you know that world community considers America to be the single largest threat to world peace, not the Middle-East?

is BS, and you know it. The world has an immense double-standard laid upon the US. We're expected to be the world peacekeeper, but we get yelled at when the world thinks we've become too aggressive. The tide of WWII was single-handedly turned by the United States. We didn't even get involved until Pearl Harbor, when Hitler was stomping all over Europe. WWI wasn't as cut-and-dried, but once again, if not for the "world police" presence of the US, we wouldn't have won. The 1991 Iraq war was a little tougher, but the genocide being committed by Hussein wouldn't have been stopped, and then we stepped in. So please stop with "the US is the largest threat to world peace", because without us, the world would be alot worse off.

I'd pick at more of your statements, but I'm completely swamped at work today.

K2e2vin · 06-25-2004, 10:26 AM

couldnt be prisoner of war because the war is supposidly(spl?) over....

i dont know if about Iraq and afganistan and them, but it seems they(Middle east in general) are somewhat into the modern technology. ive seen some stuff where this soldier had a mp3 player and stuff, have high end TVs, and spin out contests....

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dohcvtec_accord WRX Sellout Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The left lane Age: 32 Posts: 8,498 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2002 WRB Impreza WRX Rep Power: 99	Our soldiers scared the shit out of the prisoners (read: PRISONERS) and humiliated them. Those wastes of human life kill people, usually innocent. Both are wrong on one level or another. But don't even try to compare one with the other. It's not even close. You have to admit, if the Middle East weren't so back-asswards with their religious, social and cultural views, MANY of the problems that are plaguing the world today wouldn't exist. The degredation of women, refusal to move forward with technology, etc. are directly contributing to the animalistic and reactionary politics and actions of the Middle East. When people like me say things like "Pave it" or "nuke it", of course we're not serious. It's a reaction to the disgusting and backwards principles and policies that people in the Middle East commit every day. The world is moving forward, but many Middle Easterners refuse to go with it. Their jealousy and anger toward a world that's leaving them behind, by their choice, is quite a juxtaposition. When the people on this board, and in the rest of the country, see the shit that our soldiers and civilians have to put up with over there on a daily basis, we get upset and feel like personally taking a baseball bat to the heads of anyone we can find over there. It's in anger that we suggest things like paving or nuking the country. So don't get your panties in a wad when someone says something along those lines. __________________ This space left intentionally blank.

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pissedoffsol RETIRED Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Retirement Home Age: 29 Posts: 49,951 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: Electric Scooter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 531	http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/06/22/...tage/index.html Kim Sun-il is beheaded

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Frankie P. Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Austin, TX. Posts: 1,630 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 29	I just want to say that I say 'nuke the bastards as well. They don't care about people that our civilians over there so why should we? Also we should make the same statement as the US in WWII when we bombed Japan. "Less lives would be lost if we just nuke them." Sounds good to me, less Americans/Civilians would die, therefore we should just nuke the ragheads.

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K2e2vin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC Age: 22 Posts: 6,362 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: 88 Honda Civic HB Rep Power: 150	couldnt be prisoner of war because the war is supposidly(spl?) over.... i dont know if about Iraq and afganistan and them, but it seems they(Middle east in general) are somewhat into the modern technology. ive seen some stuff where this soldier had a mp3 player and stuff, have high end TVs, and spin out contests.... __________________ 1988 Honda Civic Standard-more mods than I want to list 1992 Honda Accord LX 1996 Toyota Avalon-Spun bearing, for sale. Terrorists have successfully attacked our imagination. RIP Jon Eban Nie, August 31, 1991 - May 7, 2006 Y-Daniel Siu Eban, September 7, 1986 - May 7, 2006

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