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Old 01-27-2004, 10:27 AM   #1
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God I hate Democrats.


I like Wesley Clark's appeal to the New Hampshire lot that Bush is a war monger, when it was Clark who was DIRECTLY in charge of the US cluster-fuck (As G. Gordon Liddy put it) in Bosnia.


Good going, ass munch.

That "Bush in 41 seconds" is crap. He raised ONE point "We're in debt more today than ever". Yeah, that's right. Moving on, "The US has not had so many foreign enemies ("Worldwide bullys"... yeah, asshole, the ONLY people that step in and crush terrorism as well as liberate countries is a bully) since the Revolutionary War". Newsflash, cocksucker liberal, When people desire freedom, and if they don't take the initiative to stand up and fight THEMSELVES, then the US does. Outnumbered and hopeless, the Revolutionary war is why you don't suck the Queen's ruby-encrusted pussy.

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I just thought it was funny...
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yea, and bush is also the reason why you dont have a job.

companies have been moving tech jobs overseas. nobody wants to hire someone that works for 20+ /hr. why do you think each time you call for customer service for your cell phone you get some indian that can hardly speak english? cuz he works for like 2 bucks!

i think bush needs to center himself on improving out economy and stop the job fallout, instead of spending millions on liberating some 3rd world country, or even going to mars. i love the idea of putting humans on mars, but take care of your own country first damnit!!!
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God I hate Democrats.


thank you man.....guess who im voting for also?
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"Don't be an asshole, vote democrat 2004"

BWAHAHAHAHAHA, how the hell could he say that, and not bust out laughing is beyond me. Not that republicans aren't assholes, all politicians are, and both parties are filled with them, but using that as a slogan is just tooooo funny.
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"pussbag" got me to smirk. lol
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im total conservative....you people complain about how the rich dont pay enough tax...the middle class pays more tax and shit blah blah blah....let me tell you something about tax....when my dad sold his business to retire and deal with his cancer, the government taxed that check for 39%....you wanna know what that worked out to in dollar amounts? answer-23mil....dad had a huge business selling to freightliner, mack, volvo, snapper, ford, thomas, etc.....he took that hit under a democrat in office....quit fuckin complaining about how middle class pay all the tax...why the fuck should higher pay more tax just cuz they have the money? i know you will say,"cuz it helps people out by paying for something things, you have the money, why not give it away?" bull fucking shit!!! im not being a greed monster, im just saying. why should my dad give up the money he worked sooooo hard for just cuz he has alot? makes no sence at all....thats why me and my whole family are republican.....any questions?...post them!
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i agree. and it goes with that homework example that someone posted a while back..

the problem i have with R's, is that they just fuck up just about everything else in the process. I like their budget and money views, but i hate every other view they carry.

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i guess ill accept your view.....lol jk
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yea, and bush is also the reason why you dont have a job.

companies have been moving tech jobs overseas. nobody wants to hire someone that works for 20+ /hr. why do you think each time you call for customer service for your cell phone you get some indian that can hardly speak english? cuz he works for like 2 bucks!
This has been going on LONG before Bush Jr. got into office.
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Originally posted by dohcvtec_accord+Jan 27 2004, 07:26 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dohcvtec_acc ord @ Jan 27 2004, 07:26 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-TurboMirage@Jan 27 2004, 09:29 AM
yea, and bush is also the reason why you dont have a job.

companies have been moving tech jobs overseas. nobody wants to hire someone that works for 20+ /hr. why do you think each time you call for customer service for your cell phone you get some indian that can hardly speak english? cuz he works for like 2 bucks!
This has been going on LONG before Bush Jr. got into office. [/b][/quote]
Fuckin exactly, Bush doesn't make corporations greedy.
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GO BUSH !!!!!!!!!!!


and deport a few hundred thousand illegal mexicans from california while ur at it !!!!!!!!!!
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fuck republicans, fuck democrats. i vote for whomever has the better idea. fuck the rich too. oh lets complain about losing 23 mil when theres 35.9 million to retire on. i hope he'll make it without that extra 23 million. sorry. im having a bad day. anyway, im broke as shit. i work sooooo hard, and i get nothin. if i had one tenth of that, i could live on it for the rest of my life. anyway, vote for ideas, not men. the politicians are corrupt.
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fuck the rich too. oh lets complain about losing 23 mil when theres 35.9 million to retire on. i hope he'll make it without that extra 23 million.
watch it boy.....relax on that shit....
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and deport a few hundred thousand illegal mexicans from california while ur at it !!!!!!!!!!
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fuck republicans, fuck democrats. i vote for whomever has the better idea. fuck the rich too. oh lets complain about losing 23 mil when theres 35.9 million to retire on. i hope he'll make it without that extra 23 million. sorry. im having a bad day. anyway, im broke as shit. i work sooooo hard, and i get nothin. if i had one tenth of that, i could live on it for the rest of my life. anyway, vote for ideas, not men. the politicians are corrupt.
I agree, ideas are great, but unfortunately they don't pay rent. And men make policy that does (in a sense) And fuck the government taxing the rich more, if I somehow come into millions, I don't want those bastards taking more of what's mine because I have more, that's called theft. It's the same rational the "beaner" used when he took Tony's stereo, "I want it, but I want it for free"
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And fuck the government taxing the rich more, if I somehow come into millions, I don't want those bastards taking more of what's mine because I have more, that's called theft.


the wealthier already AUTOMATICLY get taxed more... there is no fucking reason to tax them at a higher rate as well

dont see what im saying??
ok heres the simple math

if you make $30,000 per year and are taxed 15%... you have paid $4500 in taxes
if you make $300,000 per year and you are taxed at 15%... you have paid $45,000 in taxes

so the guy with more money is paying more in taxes
$45,000 > $4500

this is fair... but its not how it works

the guy making $30,000 ends up getting taxed at 15% (if head of household)... so he ends up paying $4500
the guy making $300,000 ends up getting taxed at 33% (if head of household)... so he ends up paying $99,000

now the guy with more money is paying a fuckload more in taxes
$99,000 >>>>>>>>>>>> $4500

is this fair??? fuck no
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exactly!!!!! same percentage is fine, but higher percentage cuz you worked harder and have alot of money, thats shit! glad to see some people see it my way...
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And fuck the government taxing the rich more, if I somehow come into millions, I don't want those bastards taking more of what's mine because I have more, that's called theft.


the wealthier already AUTOMATICLY get taxed more... there is no fucking reason to tax them at a higher rate as well

dont see what im saying??
ok heres the simple math

if you make $30,000 per year and are taxed 15%... you have paid $4500 in taxes
if you make $300,000 per year and you are taxed at 15%... you have paid $45,000 in taxes

so the guy with more money is paying more in taxes
$45,000 > $4500

this is fair... but its not how it works

the guy making $30,000 ends up getting taxed at 15% (if head of household)... so he ends up paying $4500
the guy making $300,000 ends up getting taxed at 33% (if head of household)... so he ends up paying $99,000

now the guy with more money is paying a fuckload more in taxes
$99,000 >>>>>>>>>>>> $4500

is this fair??? fuck no [/b][/quote]
The reason for this is it is a whole lot harder to live on 30k a year than it is to live on 300k per year, so no it isn't acutally fair. Percentage wise it is, but people with lower incomes need the extra tax cuts so they can persue happy lives. Stop fuckin bitching because you got 23 million of 59 million dollars taken away. BIG FUCKING DEAL!! like bigdaddy said, you still have 36 million left!!! How can you say that you can't lead a happy life on 36 mil when there are people in this country and world that don't even get regular fucking meals?!?
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I'm with everybody who is for eliminating this tax bracket thing. Everyone should be charged at a the same rate. And for that matter, if I were in power to do so, I would eliminate any stupid tax break crap. There are so many people that just try to work the system. The tax system was created by politicians FOR politicians, and everyone else gets screwed. And for the guy that said that it is harder to live on 30,000 a year than 300,000 is only partially right. My buddy ran a farming corporation in so Cal. for most of his working life. He lived in the nice houses, drove good cars, but his cash flow was mostly directed back into his business. As the adage goes, it takes money to make money, and most guys those guys that run a business, I guarantee work harder than any layman here in the US.
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Liberals suck, so did that video. I try to stay in the "no spin zone" and this video's author could stand to do so as well. It's alot easier to complain about the efforts of others then to get off your ass and try to effect change yourself. One of the worst things about the internet is your have to hear the voices of all these armchair (or in this case I guess office chair) political critics who bash our government officals, yet can't be bothered to roll up there own sleeves and put there action where there mouth is...
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Well, the thing I have with the rich and their taxes is that they get away with not paying the full 15% through fraud, offshore accounts, and tricky investments. A rich person can get away with paying only a small fraction of what they own through "smart" accounting.
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The words he used were the best.

But yeah, when I can vote, I am not sure which side I will vote, mostly because I care about what they'll do for me, and for me in the next 4 years, and everything else that matters, like school, health care reform, etc.

I'm with ktanka and big daddy on this one. WHo the fuck cares? IT's not like you really could spend that much money in the rest of your life, and giving that much less to your loved ones is alright and all, but really it is straight out greed to say you want more then 37 million dollars to retire on. The principal of taking it is wrong, but still to whine about the loss is stupid because either way, you're set and everyone you know is set so otherwise, I personally think it is greed to want more, even though you earned it to an extent.
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