Hondaswap.com | Honda Technical & JDM styling Forums

Citizen_Insane · 01-21-2004, 01:33 AM

Here's a new Honda prototype that I whipped up tonight (on Cinema 4D the god of 3d Programs). It is to be called the CR-T or the Civic Revolution: Turbo (if you couldn't tell by the picutre). Tell me what you think. Its not done, so the air dams and stuff arn't filled with radiators/intercoolers/shit. Its supposed to be powered a mid engine V8 or I6 VTEC twin turbo with RWD. I know Honda would never produce such a car..but its fun to dream.

highperboi · 01-21-2004, 01:44 AM

that is sick man. it kinda looks like a mclaren, lotus and that special ford car in gt2 thta white and blue one that you cant buy, only win, all mixed together.

pissedoffsol · 01-21-2004, 01:44 AM

its not a honda proto type, so don't call it one.

it looks like a Merc cougar. and that sucks.

rudeludenotmeanthough · 01-21-2004, 02:03 AM

that looks like ass...

j/k you gots skill yo!!

Dancomer · 01-21-2004, 02:06 AM

that car is bad ass and if it were real i would want one..i say send it to honda for shits and giggles

highperboi · 01-21-2004, 02:10 AM

you gotta design the next CRX man that would be cool.

2000Si · 01-21-2004, 02:13 AM

I would rock it. especially if it had a bored out 3.5L turbo NSX motor in it with a 6 sp driving the rear wheels with a near 50/50 weight distribution, that cost under 40k and made times like mid 12s.

dohch22a4 · 01-21-2004, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by revolution8k@Jan 20 2004, 11:13 PM
I would rock it. especially if it had a bored out 3.5L turbo NSX motor in it with a 6 sp driving the rear wheels with a near 50/50 weight distribution, that cost under 40k and made times like mid 12s.

Hehehe, well aren't we just the ever eager optomist.

2000Si · 01-21-2004, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dohch22a4+Jan 21 2004, 02:26 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dohch22a4 @ Jan 21 2004, 02:26 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-revolution8k@Jan 20 2004, 11:13 PM
I would rock it. especially if it had a bored out 3.5L turbo NSX motor in it with a 6 sp driving the rear wheels with a near 50/50 weight distribution, that cost under 40k and made times like mid 12s.

Hehehe, well aren't we just the ever eager optomist. [/b][/quote]

That would be my perfect dream Honda.

dvus1 · 01-21-2004, 03:25 AM

nice.... you got skills

bigdaddyIII · 01-21-2004, 03:30 AM

im not sure about the door line at the rear, or the pillars, but the front looks effin tight.

djyox · 01-21-2004, 03:53 AM

looks to me like a GT40 meets the 2nd gen eclipse, nice looking but I would go with who ever said make the new CRX...Well finish that one first, then start on the new CRX.

djyox · 01-21-2004, 03:54 AM

oh yeah, the work looks great!!! Wanna make me a few pictures??? basic photoshop stuff...

honduhhomie · 01-21-2004, 06:42 AM

wow you made that yourself?? im jealous! i know a little 3d max but i cant do that.

CRX-YEM · 01-21-2004, 09:00 AM

nicely done, but that's a way to agressive styling for honda to ever make.

**Loco Honkey** · 01-21-2004, 09:24 AM

I don't do digital images anymore, so I won't comment on how it looks like an elephant sat on the passenger side of the roof...

From a design standpoint, how the hell are you going to put a V8 or a I-6TT in the middle of a CRX? The soul of the CRX is light and playful, not heavy and hard to drive. If you were able to keep it under 2200 lbs. (which you won't be able to because of airbags, ABS, and all that other shit), you'd be well advised to either use an NA 1.6L engine, or a quick spooling 1.3L turbocharged engine. Also, if it's mid engine, why are you putting the IC up front? And the radiator air inlet vs. outlets? Whoa! Inlet area should be 25- 50% of the core area, and the outlet area should be ~200% of the core area to ensure proper airflow through the core. What you have there would allow the air to stagnate in front of the inlet, creating a big turbulence bubble, affecting the dynamic stability of the car.

CRX-YEM · 01-21-2004, 09:48 AM

Without doing a wind tunnel test or at least a computer model of the aerodynamics of the vehicle I don't think you can properly judge whether the car would be dynamically stable.

I highly doubt the air would create a vacuum in front of the car as you say, It's almost impossible. The splitter if close enough to the ground would allow for the air to be forced into the opening that's proposed for the radiator or innercooler and the air would flow over the top of the car as well as create a vacuum underneath the vehicle, but it's also impossible to tell without a mathematical model.

I can agree that the proposed design would most likely not be aerodynamically sound and the air path might not even flow thru the proposed opening for the radiator or innercooler.

The vehicle if designed with the proper material could be well under 2500Lbs.
The car would be expensive as hell but it could be done.

but all this speculation is pointless as it's a pipe dream in a 3D design studio.

**Loco Honkey** · 01-21-2004, 09:57 AM

Not vacuum. High pressure. If the outlet won't allow the volume of air going through the inlet to escape, it'll create a high pressure area, causing the air in the duct to stagnate because air will hit the high pressure area and be deflected. I'm not saying it wouldn't be dynamically stable, but I'm saying that the turbulance in front of the car WILL affect it.

I've designed and flown quite a few RC aircraft and have had a say in how a full scale experimental aircraft was built, and I've always had this uncanny ability to be able to visualize how air flows around objects.

CRX-YEM · 01-21-2004, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Loco Honkey@Jan 21 2004, 10:57 AM
Not vacuum. High pressure. If the outlet won't allow the volume of air going through the inlet to escape, it'll create a high pressure area, .

now I forgot about that

**Loco Honkey** · 01-21-2004, 11:51 AM

And the reason for the outlet being four to five times larger than the inlet is to create a low pressure area. Since high pressuer ALWAYS moves towards low pressure, this will ensure that the high pressure inlet air moves through the radiator and out the outlet. An added benefit to this, is if you do it right, you can eliminate the high pressure area at the base of the windshield, which will reduce the drag the wipers create.

01-21-2004, 01:33 AM	#1
Citizen_Insane Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 3,701 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 51	Here's a new Honda prototype that I whipped up tonight (on Cinema 4D the god of 3d Programs). It is to be called the CR-T or the Civic Revolution: Turbo (if you couldn't tell by the picutre). Tell me what you think. Its not done, so the air dams and stuff arn't filled with radiators/intercoolers/shit. Its supposed to be powered a mid engine V8 or I6 VTEC twin turbo with RWD. I know Honda would never produce such a car..but its fun to dream. __________________ No tech questions through PM please! B16 CRX....you will be missed

01-21-2004, 01:44 AM	#2
highperboi Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Alameda, California Posts: 971 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 24	that is sick man. it kinda looks like a mclaren, lotus and that special ford car in gt2 thta white and blue one that you cant buy, only win, all mixed together. __________________ my <a href=\'http://www.hondaswap.com/gallery/browse.php?album_id=668\' target=\'_blank\'>civic</a> can burn stationwagons.....when they're parked

01-21-2004, 02:03 AM	#4
rudeludenotmeanthough Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,406 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 29	that looks like ass... j/k you gots skill yo!! __________________ </div><table border=\'0\' align=\'center\' width=\'95%\' cellpadding=\'3\' cellspacing=\'1\'><tr><td>QUOTE (94RedSiGal @ Dec 2 2003 @ 12:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id=\'QUOTE\'>Having a ClubSi, Honda-Tech or HondaSwap sticker on them would just scream "Steal Me Now! I'm a special car!" to thieves.</td></tr></table><div class=\'signature\'>

01-21-2004, 02:06 AM	#5
Dancomer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Gurnee, IL Posts: 364 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 17	that car is bad ass and if it were real i would want one..i say send it to honda for shits and giggles __________________ Well it seems that no matter how hard i try i just get screwed in the end...but at least i have my honda to keep me company...

01-21-2004, 02:10 AM	#6
highperboi Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Alameda, California Posts: 971 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 24	you gotta design the next CRX man that would be cool. __________________ my <a href=\'http://www.hondaswap.com/gallery/browse.php?album_id=668\' target=\'_blank\'>civic</a> can burn stationwagons.....when they're parked


Welcome, Guest! Please Register or Login: User Name Password Members have access to more features, better search, and see fewer ads! It's free, what are you waiting for?

01-21-2004, 01:44 AM	#3
pissedoffsol RETIRED Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Retirement Home Age: 29 Posts: 49,951 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: Electric Scooter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 531	its not a honda proto type, so don't call it one. it looks like a Merc cougar. and that sucks.

01-21-2004, 03:25 AM	#10
dvus1 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: somewhere in GUAM Posts: 352 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 16	nice.... you got skills __________________ <a href=\'http://www.hondaswap.com/gallery/images/s3f988ecba123d.jpg\' target=\'_blank\'>RL</a> <a href=\'http://www.hondaswap.com/gallery/images/s3f9930845a568.jpg\' target=\'_blank\'>88 HB/ B18a</a>

01-21-2004, 03:30 AM	#11
bigdaddyIII Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: charles city iowa Posts: 409 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 18	im not sure about the door line at the rear, or the pillars, but the front looks effin tight. __________________ Castles made of sand melt into the sea...eventually crappy 92 lx still trying to save for the z6 swap. yeah, im that broke.

01-21-2004, 03:53 AM	#12
djyox Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota Posts: 982 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 24	looks to me like a GT40 meets the 2nd gen eclipse, nice looking but I would go with who ever said make the new CRX...Well finish that one first, then start on the new CRX. __________________ -Nick

01-21-2004, 03:54 AM	#13
djyox Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota Posts: 982 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 24	oh yeah, the work looks great!!! Wanna make me a few pictures??? basic photoshop stuff... __________________ -Nick

01-21-2004, 06:42 AM	#14
honduhhomie Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 19 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 13	wow you made that yourself?? im jealous! i know a little 3d max but i cant do that. __________________ </div><table border=\'0\' align=\'center\' width=\'95%\' cellpadding=\'3\' cellspacing=\'1\'><tr><td>CODE </td></tr><tr><td id=\'CODE\'>what is this code thing?</td></tr></table><div class=\'signature\'>

01-21-2004, 09:00 AM	#15
CRX-YEM Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Wallingford, CT Age: 32 Posts: 4,431 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 91 CRX Rep Power: 86	nicely done, but that's a way to agressive styling for honda to ever make. __________________ Dennis Buy my stuff plz... Mondaswap For Sale - MPFI, 88-91 CRX, 92-95 Civic Parts Please don't PM/Email/IM me for technical support. Make a Post!!! 91 CRX DX, 03 Civic EX "There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who get binary and those who don't." "Of all my imaginary friends I don't think there was one I didn't end up having to kill"

01-21-2004, 09:24 AM	#16
Loco Honkey Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,657 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	I don't do digital images anymore, so I won't comment on how it looks like an elephant sat on the passenger side of the roof... From a design standpoint, how the hell are you going to put a V8 or a I-6TT in the middle of a CRX? The soul of the CRX is light and playful, not heavy and hard to drive. If you were able to keep it under 2200 lbs. (which you won't be able to because of airbags, ABS, and all that other shit), you'd be well advised to either use an NA 1.6L engine, or a quick spooling 1.3L turbocharged engine. Also, if it's mid engine, why are you putting the IC up front? And the radiator air inlet vs. outlets? Whoa! Inlet area should be 25- 50% of the core area, and the outlet area should be ~200% of the core area to ensure proper airflow through the core. What you have there would allow the air to stagnate in front of the inlet, creating a big turbulence bubble, affecting the dynamic stability of the car.

01-21-2004, 09:48 AM	#17
CRX-YEM Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Wallingford, CT Age: 32 Posts: 4,431 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 91 CRX Rep Power: 86	Without doing a wind tunnel test or at least a computer model of the aerodynamics of the vehicle I don't think you can properly judge whether the car would be dynamically stable. I highly doubt the air would create a vacuum in front of the car as you say, It's almost impossible. The splitter if close enough to the ground would allow for the air to be forced into the opening that's proposed for the radiator or innercooler and the air would flow over the top of the car as well as create a vacuum underneath the vehicle, but it's also impossible to tell without a mathematical model. I can agree that the proposed design would most likely not be aerodynamically sound and the air path might not even flow thru the proposed opening for the radiator or innercooler. The vehicle if designed with the proper material could be well under 2500Lbs. The car would be expensive as hell but it could be done. but all this speculation is pointless as it's a pipe dream in a 3D design studio. __________________ Dennis Buy my stuff plz... Mondaswap For Sale - MPFI, 88-91 CRX, 92-95 Civic Parts Please don't PM/Email/IM me for technical support. Make a Post!!! 91 CRX DX, 03 Civic EX "There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who get binary and those who don't." "Of all my imaginary friends I don't think there was one I didn't end up having to kill"

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Check Engine light coming on	hondaflr	ECU's, Electronics, and Tuning	1	06-16-2004 06:16 PM
97 civic shell (perfect swap)	b18c1civic97	Vehicles: For Sale/Trade/Wanted	36	04-25-2004 06:42 PM
The latest GS-R find	UDT	General Tech and Maintenance	24	04-01-2004 01:20 AM
Check light on EF9 hb with b16a swap	Jdubspeeds	HYBRID -> ED-EF / DA	12	12-25-2003 12:34 AM

01-21-2004, 09:57 AM	#18
Loco Honkey Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,657 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	Not vacuum. High pressure. If the outlet won't allow the volume of air going through the inlet to escape, it'll create a high pressure area, causing the air in the duct to stagnate because air will hit the high pressure area and be deflected. I'm not saying it wouldn't be dynamically stable, but I'm saying that the turbulance in front of the car WILL affect it. I've designed and flown quite a few RC aircraft and have had a say in how a full scale experimental aircraft was built, and I've always had this uncanny ability to be able to visualize how air flows around objects.

01-21-2004, 11:51 AM	#20
Loco Honkey Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,657 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	And the reason for the outlet being four to five times larger than the inlet is to create a low pressure area. Since high pressuer ALWAYS moves towards low pressure, this will ensure that the high pressure inlet air moves through the radiator and out the outlet. An added benefit to this, is if you do it right, you can eliminate the high pressure area at the base of the windshield, which will reduce the drag the wipers create.

Hondaswap.com | Honda Technical & JDM styling Forums

Check out the new Prototype!!