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There is no way that we're making it out of here with "infrastructure". Wait until one of these winters, when the state says "We can't afford to plow. Sorry" Or the lines along the east coast. And if you all only knew what I know ...

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Old 07-05-2012, 06:08 PM   #51
 
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There is no way that we're making it out of here with "infrastructure". Wait until one of these winters, when the state says "We can't afford to plow. Sorry"

Or the lines along the east coast. And if you all only knew what I know about the gas pipeline system in the NE, you would be.. well, You would be like me with the preparation and stuff.

Redline is a good day for the natural gas consumption in the NE.
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Basically, it's maxed out. Here in the NE-US we also pipe down to New York City and Long Island. The problem is that throughout these areas there are the usual NIMBY assholes and eco-weenies that don't want to implement fixes because they feel it will destroy their high-dollar view of the water.

In your area, you don't have that - necessarily. When Seattle sponges off all they can, and they start talking about liquification plants in the Puget, you'll see that exact issue.

Throughout the US Gas delivery is redline capacity. Shit, NYC is just one airconditioner away from bringing down the system.

And I'm not exaggerating that much. It's truly on the verge of total collapse. And I'm talking about "One more housing development" away, for the NE.

Throughout the midwest, the pipeline project (That Obama recently fucked up) was a "Just in the nick of time" type of fix to an aging and small-capacity flow system that is "Due for upgrade". Now lemme tell you something about utilities : When they "Due for upgrade" that it means it's time to get the fuck out of dodge. These people pray every lunch break that the system will hold for just one more afternoon so that they can continue to collect revenue from customers that will go into their swiss bank accounts rather than into upgrades. When it comes that the utility says "Upgrade!" it's usually too late, and the whole fucking thing is about to collapse.

Don't believe me ? Look at Nuclear power. And remember, that's heavily regulated and followed by a government and people that WANT to find problems and shut them down. Imagine what the safeties look like for a utility that no one is hawking over 24/7.

(EDIT: They only say "UPGRADE!" at the end, so that when the utility does fail, they can say "I told you so!" and demand more money for the next time they ignore a problem so long that it collapses.)
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What's worse, is that they MUST do this. If they increase rates for consumers, the government steps in to knock them down. If they say "We're starting the budget for a complete re-vamp in 2025" they will get run out of town.

If you're a utility, there is no winning situation. You have to balance on the fine edge of disaster in order for people to take you seriously. Just look at what happened in CT last winter when the electrical company got dragged through the mud for not upgrading the system, when just 2 years earlier the government stepped in and introduced price controls to the cheers of the people. You can't fucking win.

And now DC and Virginia's Dominion is in for the same treatment. People say now:"We'll pay extra for underground lines!" until they see what the actual bill looks like.
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Old 07-06-2012, 07:56 PM   #56
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Good ideas, but impractical. The infrastructure alone would be incredibly expensive because everything government funded is usually always late and over budget. Great example is the universities of california program. It used to be free (under $60k/yr income) or seriously reduced, like $150/yr reduced.
However, now the UCs charge what Harvard, Stanford, etc... charges if you are a non-cal resident, $37k/yr. Most other state universities charge around $25k/yr for non-residents. Lets not forget financial aid itself is a mess.
I was referring ONLY to pre-med students. Basically, going into college as premed, you will become a government 'trial employee' with 6-8 years of 'unpaid training'.

And some ivy schools are like 60 grand these days last i checked, so 37 isn't that bad.

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Lastly, limiting lawsuits to $10,000 is kind of not realistic. What if an surgeon forgot a pair of hemostats in your gut? Or accidentally amputated the wrong limb? Worst, what if a nurse OD and killed someone? I think a limit needs to be placed, but not sure what that amount is. Maybe by a schedule?
Class 1 - lost of life $1 million
Class 2 - lost of limb $500,000
etc...
I was referring to 'frivilous' lawsuits.
shit like this:
Parents Get $2.9M in Down Syndrome Girl ‘Wrongful Birth’ Suit - ABC News
Doctor can be sued for emotional distress despite lack of physical negligence - amednews.com

and 1000s of other things you can google.


If you wake up with the wrong arm gone, game on.

these days, they make you mark the X on the limb you want cut off as your signature, if you are physically able to do so.

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Lastly, I think a good step is to NOT treat undocumented people and criminals.
Obama thinks otherwise. Illegals have full rights to our healthcare system now, even if they can't pay. (if they want to pay cash, i have no issues with it. They may just 'be on vacation'.). Criminals are required to accept care for some stupid hippie reason. even if you want to die, like after a cop shoots you, you can't regfuse medical treatment, must be saved, if possible, and go to court. Why? because someone sued once.

See above.


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Aw damn it, i just realized im technologically inept at multi-quotes.

1) pre-med is a pretty broad "major," sorta. also, what if the student changes programs? or doesnt want to go to med school anymore? or cant make the 3.5GPA grade? good incentive though. maybe somehow award those who are pursuing a science/math degree? that seems to be our weakest and heavy import job market.

2)is $60K for just tuition or is that an estimated total annual cost for living, transportation, etc..? if its just tuition, that is a freaking rip off unless thats for some sort of professional/grad program.

3)yeah those are some pretty retarded suits. those should just be thrown out or awarded like $5 bucks. even in CPR classes, the Red Cross stresses the importance of asking if it is okay to save someone's life if they are conscious.

im really not sure how people honestly think it is right to award people who break the law and enter the country illegally. i mean, they just passed one of the dumbest laws in california which award illegals financial aid to go to college. WTF, say what?!?!?!?!?!

we're already drowning in moneyz problem and schools raising tuition yet they are giving it to people who break the legal?? then we have to foot the bill if they go to the hospital, too? hmmm.................
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Aw damn it, i just realized im technologically inept at multi-quotes.........
Works something like this:

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There is no way that we're making it out of here with "infrastructure". Wait until one of these winters, when the state says "We can't afford to plow. Sorry"

Or the lines along the east coast. And if you all only knew what I know about the gas pipeline system in the NE, you would be.. well, You would be like me with the preparation and stuff.

Redline is a good day for the natural gas consumption in the NE.
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Details on the gas pipeline system? PM me if you don't want to post it here.
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Basically, it's maxed out. Here in the NE-US we also pipe down to New York City and Long Island. The problem is that throughout these areas there are the usual NIMBY assholes and eco-weenies that don't want to implement fixes because they feel it will destroy their high-dollar view of the water.

In your area, you don't have that - necessarily. When Seattle sponges off all they can, and they start talking about liquification plants in the Puget, you'll see that exact issue.

Throughout the US Gas delivery is redline capacity. Shit, NYC is just one airconditioner away from bringing down the system.

And I'm not exaggerating that much. It's truly on the verge of total collapse. And I'm talking about "One more housing development" away, for the NE.

Throughout the midwest, the pipeline project (That Obama recently fucked up) was a "Just in the nick of time" type of fix to an aging and small-capacity flow system that is "Due for upgrade". Now lemme tell you something about utilities : When they "Due for upgrade" that it means it's time to get the fuck out of dodge. These people pray every lunch break that the system will hold for just one more afternoon so that they can continue to collect revenue from customers that will go into their swiss bank accounts rather than into upgrades. When it comes that the utility says "Upgrade!" it's usually too late, and the whole fucking thing is about to collapse.

Don't believe me ? Look at Nuclear power. And remember, that's heavily regulated and followed by a government and people that WANT to find problems and shut them down. Imagine what the safeties look like for a utility that no one is hawking over 24/7.

(EDIT: They only say "UPGRADE!" at the end, so that when the utility does fail, they can say "I told you so!" and demand more money for the next time they ignore a problem so long that it collapses.)
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What's worse, is that they MUST do this. If they increase rates for consumers, the government steps in to knock them down. If they say "We're starting the budget for a complete re-vamp in 2025" they will get run out of town.

If you're a utility, there is no winning situation. You have to balance on the fine edge of disaster in order for people to take you seriously. Just look at what happened in CT last winter when the electrical company got dragged through the mud for not upgrading the system, when just 2 years earlier the government stepped in and introduced price controls to the cheers of the people. You can't fucking win.

And now DC and Virginia's Dominion is in for the same treatment. People say now:"We'll pay extra for underground lines!" until they see what the actual bill looks like.
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I was referring ONLY to pre-med students. Basically, going into college as premed, you will become a government 'trial employee' with 6-8 years of 'unpaid training'.

And some ivy schools are like 60 grand these days last i checked, so 37 isn't that bad.


I was referring to 'frivilous' lawsuits.
shit like this:
Parents Get $2.9M in Down Syndrome Girl ‘Wrongful Birth’ Suit - ABC News
Doctor can be sued for emotional distress despite lack of physical negligence - amednews.com

and 1000s of other things you can google.


If you wake up with the wrong arm gone, game on.

these days, they make you mark the X on the limb you want cut off as your signature, if you are physically able to do so.


Obama thinks otherwise. Illegals have full rights to our healthcare system now, even if they can't pay. (if they want to pay cash, i have no issues with it. They may just 'be on vacation'.). Criminals are required to accept care for some stupid hippie reason. even if you want to die, like after a cop shoots you, you can't regfuse medical treatment, must be saved, if possible, and go to court. Why? because someone sued once.

See above.


It's the root cause of everything that is wrong with our country.
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Aw damn it, i just realized im technologically inept at multi-quotes.

1) pre-med is a pretty broad "major," sorta. also, what if the student changes programs? or doesnt want to go to med school anymore? or cant make the 3.5GPA grade? good incentive though. maybe somehow award those who are pursuing a science/math degree? that seems to be our weakest and heavy import job market.

2)is $60K for just tuition or is that an estimated total annual cost for living, transportation, etc..? if its just tuition, that is a freaking rip off unless thats for some sort of professional/grad program.

3)yeah those are some pretty retarded suits. those should just be thrown out or awarded like $5 bucks. even in CPR classes, the Red Cross stresses the importance of asking if it is okay to save someone's life if they are conscious.

im really not sure how people honestly think it is right to award people who break the law and enter the country illegally. i mean, they just passed one of the dumbest laws in california which award illegals financial aid to go to college. WTF, say what?!?!?!?!?!

we're already drowning in moneyz problem and schools raising tuition yet they are giving it to people who break the legal?? then we have to foot the bill if they go to the hospital, too? hmmm.................
Just punch up the "Black Quotation Marks" or Multi Quote button on the lower right corner to the right of the regular Quote Button to "Tag" the first series of quotes and use the regular "Quote" button on the last one.....
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Old 07-08-2012, 07:49 PM   #59
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It's an idea, not a bill. of course it has technicalities that need to be worked out for all the what if's... but its a waste of time because it will never fucking happen until half of the population wakes up.
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