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Slo86GT · 05-14-2003, 05:11 PM

This was from a small mail group I'm in to find parts for cars.. A couple of people skim junkyards and pull anyhting that might make a profit, and then post what they find on our group...

Here's the first post, my reply is below, followed by the two replies I received...

Quote:

----- Original Message -----
From: KWOK CHAN
To: partsclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: ~*©ïvì¢®åçë ßõÿs*~ 98 civic Front end conv .on my 89 hatchback COOL project car

KWOK CHAN <abcauto2003@yahoo.com.hk> wrote:
hi . my name is thomas. i had a hatchback with the 98 front end conv. and i am trying to sell it now ...email me if anyone interenting....ask for pics and question??? the hatchback is come with the custom side and rear body kit and the 98 civic front end. the car is run good. *liittle damage at the fender and pass. side door. the car run straight. good aligment.much more....email me at * * abcauto2003@yahoo.com.hk * *.i am living at seattle wa...welcome to come see it....

----- My Reply Message -----
From: Jody B
To: partsclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: ~*©ïvì¢®åçë ßõÿs*~ 98 civic Front end conv .on my 89 hatchback COOL project car

Joo Speaka Engrish Much, Mr FOB?

Jesus Christ people. At least learn the language before you BUTCHER it.

And I got these two replies back...

----- First Reply Message -----
To: partsclub@yahoogroups.com
From: "Brian-SubCultureNM" <subculturenm@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 22:25:00 -0600
Subject: ~*©ïvì¢®åçë ßõÿs*~ Re:_~*©ïvì¢®åçë_ßõÿs*~__98_civic_Fr o nt_end_conv_.on_my_89_hatchback__CO OL__project_car
* * *

Did you just put away your white hood and sheet? Burned many crosses lately?

Brian

----- Second Reply Message -----

From: Seanpb1973@aol.com
Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 12:27:33 EDT
Subject: Re: ~*©ïvì¢®åçë ßõÿs*~ *Re:_~*©ïvì¢®åçë_ßõÿs*~__ 98_civic_Front_end_conv_.on_my_89_h atchba ck__COOL__project_car
To: jdmcivic@yahoo.com, partsclub@yahoogroups.com
* * *
well what you said was wrong

----- Third Reply Message -----

To: partsclub@yahoogroups.com
From: "John Gorum" <john.gorum@infousa.com>
Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 19:57:52 -0000
Subject: ~*©ïvì¢®åçë ßõÿs*~ use of language

I am directing this post at the person known as "Jody". I was reading
your post and felt compelled to respond in kind: I think your use of
the english language is in gross negligence, your sentence structure
is poor, your spelling is absolutely atrocious ( Elementary school
level), I find it somewhat comical that you want to critize somebody
for trying to communicate, when you appear to be "uncommucatable". I
noticed that word?, in your first paragraph. I assumed everyone knew
how to use spell check, obviously I was mistaken, if you review your
post you will notice several more errors as well, and to think, you
want to educate somebody on the proper usage of the english language.
I am apalled at your inability to comprehend that this person may be
attempting to learn our language, at least he is trying to
communicate with us, regardless if it is broken or not. I am willing
to bet if you ran a speed shop or any other business for that matter,
you would not turn down his patronage, therefore that makes you a
hypocrite in my eyes. I also am concerned with why you are so narrow
minded. If the asian people never made a Honda you would not have a
vehicle to modify. I lived in Japan for three years and met a lot of
import tuners and visited world renowned speed shops and they could
care less that I spoke broken Japanese. They were happy to see that a
G.I. (short for government issue, I am ex-ARMY) had an interest in
modifying his car. I think maybe you should switch over to Camaro's,
Mustangs or 4x4 pick-up trucks with a gun rack and the rebel flag
flying out back, at least then more people would have views similiar *
to yours. I will end this for now, Oh yeah you might want to critique
my post because I am sure that you may find some spelling errors as
well as lack of paragraph strucure. I too apparently do not know how
to use the english language. *

----- So I Retorted -----

To: partsclub@yahoogroups.com
From: "Jody B" <jdmcivic@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 05:33:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: ~*©ïvì¢®åçë ßõÿs*~ Re:_~*©ïvì¢®åçë_ßõÿs*~__98_civic_Fr ont_end_conv_.on_my_89_hatchback__C OOL__project_car

WTF is THAT supposed to mean? *If you're calling me a racist, FUCK YOU. I have NO problem with races. I DO have a prople with people who come to snap judgement on people. I ALSO have a problem with uncommucatable people that try say something, but can't express themselves to where anyone can understand them in a language they apparently don't know how to use.

I make fun of people who attempt to work on cars that don't know a vacuum line from a spark plug wire. I make fun of people who talk mad shit at the street races talkin about I've got a 100 shot on my Civic DX. Really? *Where's the nozzle? *Where's the bottle? *Is that done with individual foggers or a single nozzle?

And if you don't understand why I do this, I really don't care. People should learn something aobut what they are talking about before trying to blind you with science.

----- And Got This Reply -----

To: partsclub@yahoogroups.com
From: "Brian Lucero" <subculturenm@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 16:33:06 -0000
Subject: ~*©ïvì¢®åçë ßõÿs*~ ~*©ïvì¢®åçë ßõÿs*~ Re:_~*©ïvì ¢®åçë_ßõÿs*~__98_civic_Front_e nd_conv_.on_my_89_hatchback__C OOL__project_car
* * *
Yeah, you can tell all of this from your biggoted post. If you don't
like people making judgements based on YOUR comments, either keep the
lame ones to yourself or use that pea-brain of yours to process the
thought before it is communicated. That is all, Sally.

Brian

I personally think I was SLIGHTLY out of line, but jeez. C'mon people. If you want to type the Engrish, then type in ENGLISH. You don't see me trying to post my broken ass German on some Deutcher site, do you?

Like the black guy in Gone in 60 Seconds said.

Quote:

Now I know I can't swim, so you know what I do? I keep my black ass out of the water!

[Edit] sorry forgot one of the replies I received...[/Edit]

Slo86GT · 05-14-2003, 05:19 PM

I couldn't help myself.. I replied again.

Quote:

I don't see myself going to some foreign site and posting broken language. If I did, I'd expect to get reamed for it. For calling me a redneck, uneducated, and all that jazz, all I have to say is you do not know who you are dealing with. *The only typos in my previous email were because my keyboard wasn't keeping up, and I didn't feel like going back to proof read for inverted or non-registering key strikes. The word I made up was to get a point across.

BTW, I do own a Mustang. And it's my daily driver car because it's FASTER than my Honda, and easily 10 times more reliable, also. *If you have a problem with domestic cars, then why did you move back to America?

Piss on you, sir.

lsvtec · 05-14-2003, 05:26 PM

Wow

That is all I can muster. That guy has his head planted firmly in his rectum.

dohcvtec_accord · 05-14-2003, 05:29 PM

All I know is, I fucking hate it when I go to a drive-thru or call customer service or anything like that and the person I'm speaking too can't speak one sentence without stuttering, mispronouncing or using wrong words because he/she doesn't have even a basic grasp of the English language.

Why in holy hell would an employer place someone in a customer service position who can't speak English???!!!

[/rant]

Slo86GT · 05-14-2003, 05:45 PM

Now that I've posted everyone email address on here... SHould we all porn spam them to death?

j/k

Maybe....

pissedoffsol · 05-15-2003, 12:50 AM

cliff notes?????

Havok · 05-15-2003, 12:56 AM

Translation : people need to buy a fucking Speak 'N Spell.

IDMaxGuy · 05-15-2003, 12:57 AM

Dude half the people i call are like " No speaky engleeesh" it get so damn annoying, we actually have bi-lingual telemarketers to call these people. Thats pretty damn sad in two ways : 1. They cant speak our language. 2. Our company is so damn annoying ir wont even leave the poor foreign people alone. Oh well.

E_SolSi · 05-15-2003, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Afipunk21@May 15 2003, 01:01 AM
Translation : people need to buy a fucking Speak 'N Spell.

you mean one of these???

Havok · 05-15-2003, 01:00 AM

Along with one of these :

**sportlinecrx** · 05-15-2003, 04:55 AM

im sure everyone here has in their past, someone in their family who came to this country from a foreign land in order to bring the family to america. unless you are native american or from the UK, someone in your family probably spoke broken english when they got here just so you and your ancestors could live in freedom and have a better life.

pissedoffsol · 05-15-2003, 05:04 AM

thats was 1656!!!!

**sportlinecrx** · 05-15-2003, 05:06 AM

yea, well i grew up in predominantly white area and got picked on daily, so ive got plenty of hate for anything remotely racist

pissedoffsol · 05-15-2003, 05:30 AM

i had a roomate in college.

came from russia.

couldn't speak a word of english.

6 years later, he has a masters in Business and Economics, and can speak and write better than myself.

I have no pity. If you come here, learn English. its not that fucking hard.
nothing pisses me off more when people are running their mouths in some other language. its rude.

Engrish is even worse, cuz its butchering it.

**sportlinecrx** · 05-15-2003, 05:45 AM

i guess i have a different opinion because i come from a bilingual family, and have worked with people who arent that great at english. english happens to be one of the hardest languages to learn. its not like spanish or italian. anyway, its not realistic to expect everyone to learn a country's language before moving there. that could take years.

**Tonyd0821** · 05-15-2003, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dohcvtec_accord@May 14 2003, 04:34 PM
All I know is, I fucking hate it when I go to a drive-thru or call customer service or anything like that and the person I'm speaking too can't speak one sentence without stuttering, mispronouncing or using wrong words because he/she doesn't have even a basic grasp of the English language.

Why in holy hell would an employer place someone in a customer service position who can't speak English???!!!

[/rant]

one of my pet peeves.....

how fucking hard is it to understand a simple fast food order...

PLAIN HAMBURGER, NO LETTUCE, NO TOMATOES, NO ONIONS....

and they still fuck up my order. im not targeting one specific race, shit white people
cant understand english as well.

i hate fast food.

Slo86GT · 05-15-2003, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rixXxceboy@May 15 2003, 04:50 AM
i guess i have a different opinion because i come from a bilingual family, and have worked with people who arent that great at english. english happens to be one of the hardest languages to learn. its not like spanish or italian. anyway, its not realistic to expect everyone to learn a country's language before moving there. that could take years.

Walking and talking in broken English til you learn better is one thing. Trying to sell a car on an E-Mail user group that is in ENGLISH that you weren't invited to in the first place is entirely another.

And the three assholes that went off on me can suckle my nutsack. I'm so tired of bullshit.

tripple sik · 05-15-2003, 07:16 AM

damn... why's everybody upset over some bullshit and for those who have a pet peeve for others who's english -actually, grammatical structure- is bad, there's other things far worse to become upset over...
smoke a joint or drop an e pill and relax if you can't control your emotions and thoughts.......
being asian myself, as well as bilingual, the shit is funny to me when i hear someone speaking english in such a manner but i don't fuckin' get pissed about it... it's a waste of fuckin' energy...
i'd rather be pissed about some other shit..........
IMO

Calesta · 05-15-2003, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rixXxceboy@May 15 2003, 04:50 AM
i guess i have a different opinion because i come from a bilingual family, and have worked with people who arent that great at english. english happens to be one of the hardest languages to learn. its not like spanish or italian. anyway, its not realistic to expect everyone to learn a country's language before moving there. that could take years.

I agree with Gabe, and not with Jody... Jody- I think you got a little bit of what you deserved, honestly. My parents came here not knowing a single bit of English, but now they're flawless. No accents or anything. You can't expect everyone to perfect their English before they try to go about their everday lives though. It's just not feasible. Now if they don't make any attempt to improve, that's a different story. Not everyone can become 100% competent (to our daily standards) of using the English language- hell most people born here don't anyway- but they should at least try. That's expected- but ragging on someone just because they're trying to sell a car like anyone else and can't type properly... that's not cool. You don't know what kind of situation they're in.

rsaeini · 05-15-2003, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rixXxceboy@May 15 2003, 01:50 AM
i guess i have a different opinion because i come from a bilingual family, and have worked with people who arent that great at english. english happens to be one of the hardest languages to learn. its not like spanish or italian. anyway, its not realistic to expect everyone to learn a country's language before moving there. that could take years.

i disagree with you on one of your points. i think english is one of the easier languages to learn. i think the harder languages to learn are some of the asian languages and the middle-eastern languages. arabic is really hard yo. you try to pronounce that stuff. i just wanted to get my $0.02 in.

92b16vx · 05-15-2003, 12:07 PM

I halfway agree,but yet not.Even in other lanuages,they use punctuation and capitalization,even if the grammar and spelling are off.But I agree with Gabe and Mike,especially since my wife is german,and her english isn't perfect,but my german sucks,sooo...

Quote:

Originally posted by rsaeini Posted on May 15 2003@ 05:03 PM
i think english is one of the easier languages to learn.

To bad some many english speaking Americans massacare it everyday.But it isn't that easy to perfect,most foriegn languages are based in the same structures,so they are easier to learn when you know one.The ones you mention are very complicated though.

lsvtec · 05-15-2003, 03:16 PM

English is one of the harder languages to learn, especially if you come from an Arabic or Asain language because the structures are not remotely close. I have no problems with someone moving here that doesn't speak any english, my problem is with people that make no attempt to learn the language.

**Tonyd0821** · 05-15-2003, 03:43 PM

when my schooling is all said and done, i plan on going to community college at night to
learn chinese, japanese, korean and quite possibly esperanto

my spanish is pretty damn good, italian i can fake it
asain languages rock y0!!!

Calesta · 05-15-2003, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by karnash@May 15 2003, 02:48 PM
asain languages rock y0!!!

The grammar structure makes more sense, but damn... remembering how to write everything in Chinese is a major bitch.

lsvtec · 05-15-2003, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Calesta@May 15 2003, 02:28 PM
The grammar structure makes more sense,

If you didn't learn a European language first

05-14-2003, 05:26 PM	#3
lsvtec GNU/Linux Evangelist Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Greater Portland, OR Posts: 5,497 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: The Cheapest Road Bicycle I could get Rep Power: 69	Wow That is all I can muster. That guy has his head planted firmly in his rectum. __________________ v3sw7+9Chw6ln3pr7Ock4ma9w3TXm3l7GDF i7Ce6+8t4MNb8Oen6g6RAOa26s5MRp6 hackerkey.com

05-14-2003, 05:29 PM	#4
dohcvtec_accord WRX Sellout Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The left lane Age: 32 Posts: 8,498 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2002 WRB Impreza WRX Rep Power: 99	All I know is, I fucking hate it when I go to a drive-thru or call customer service or anything like that and the person I'm speaking too can't speak one sentence without stuttering, mispronouncing or using wrong words because he/she doesn't have even a basic grasp of the English language. Why in holy hell would an employer place someone in a customer service position who can't speak English???!!! [/rant] __________________ This space left intentionally blank.

05-14-2003, 05:45 PM	#5
Slo86GT Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Memphis - Hellhole of the South Posts: 3,367 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 48	Now that I've posted everyone email address on here... SHould we all porn spam them to death? j/k Maybe.... __________________ - Jody - 2004 Colorado ZQ8 - I5, M5, Regular cab - 209.9whp/210.7wtq 1986 Mustang GT - V8, M5 - 213.0whp/279.2wtq

05-15-2003, 12:56 AM	#7
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05-15-2003, 12:57 AM	#8
IDMaxGuy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Nixa, Mo Posts: 1,396 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 27	Dude half the people i call are like " No speaky engleeesh" it get so damn annoying, we actually have bi-lingual telemarketers to call these people. Thats pretty damn sad in two ways : 1. They cant speak our language. 2. Our company is so damn annoying ir wont even leave the poor foreign people alone. Oh well. __________________ 1996 Accord --- DD 1987 Chrysler Conquest--- Two Point Six liters of pure turbo fury... FURY I TELL YA...


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05-15-2003, 12:50 AM	#6
pissedoffsol RETIRED Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Retirement Home Age: 29 Posts: 49,951 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: Electric Scooter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 531	cliff notes?????

05-15-2003, 01:00 AM	#10
Havok Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 6,825 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 83	Along with one of these : __________________ My skin is singed but it heals my heart and with glowing pride I'll wear my scars. I'm honored by your hatred! She wanted love, I taste of blood. She bit my lip and drank my warmth from years before.

05-15-2003, 04:55 AM	#11
sportlinecrx Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 6,046 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	im sure everyone here has in their past, someone in their family who came to this country from a foreign land in order to bring the family to america. unless you are native american or from the UK, someone in your family probably spoke broken english when they got here just so you and your ancestors could live in freedom and have a better life.

05-15-2003, 05:04 AM	#12
pissedoffsol RETIRED Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Retirement Home Age: 29 Posts: 49,951 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: Electric Scooter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 531	thats was 1656!!!!

05-15-2003, 05:06 AM	#13
sportlinecrx Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 6,046 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	yea, well i grew up in predominantly white area and got picked on daily, so ive got plenty of hate for anything remotely racist

05-15-2003, 05:30 AM	#14
pissedoffsol RETIRED Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Retirement Home Age: 29 Posts: 49,951 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: Electric Scooter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 531	i had a roomate in college. came from russia. couldn't speak a word of english. 6 years later, he has a masters in Business and Economics, and can speak and write better than myself. I have no pity. If you come here, learn English. its not that fucking hard. nothing pisses me off more when people are running their mouths in some other language. its rude. Engrish is even worse, cuz its butchering it.

05-15-2003, 05:45 AM	#15
sportlinecrx Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 6,046 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	i guess i have a different opinion because i come from a bilingual family, and have worked with people who arent that great at english. english happens to be one of the hardest languages to learn. its not like spanish or italian. anyway, its not realistic to expect everyone to learn a country's language before moving there. that could take years.

05-15-2003, 07:16 AM	#18
tripple sik Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 42 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 14	damn... why's everybody upset over some bullshit and for those who have a pet peeve for others who's english -actually, grammatical structure- is bad, there's other things far worse to become upset over... smoke a joint or drop an e pill and relax if you can't control your emotions and thoughts....... being asian myself, as well as bilingual, the shit is funny to me when i hear someone speaking english in such a manner but i don't fuckin' get pissed about it... it's a waste of fuckin' energy... i'd rather be pissed about some other shit.......... IMO

05-15-2003, 03:16 PM	#22
lsvtec GNU/Linux Evangelist Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Greater Portland, OR Posts: 5,497 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: The Cheapest Road Bicycle I could get Rep Power: 69	English is one of the harder languages to learn, especially if you come from an Arabic or Asain language because the structures are not remotely close. I have no problems with someone moving here that doesn't speak any english, my problem is with people that make no attempt to learn the language. __________________ v3sw7+9Chw6ln3pr7Ock4ma9w3TXm3l7GDF i7Ce6+8t4MNb8Oen6g6RAOa26s5MRp6 hackerkey.com

05-15-2003, 03:43 PM	#23
Tonyd0821 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5,089 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	when my schooling is all said and done, i plan on going to community college at night to learn chinese, japanese, korean and quite possibly esperanto my spanish is pretty damn good, italian i can fake it asain languages rock y0!!!

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