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Jeef · 08-18-2008, 04:45 PM

To the OP if it was so cheap and easy to get cars from Jap dont you think we would all be doing this, I know if it was easy I would have a skyline in the garage.

AHHVTEC · 08-18-2008, 05:44 PM

a buddy of mine got a sir civic about 2 weeks ago, that was street legal in canada we took it to the dmv place they said so this car was registered in canada and he said yes, then they said well as long as all the lights and stuff work then if will be good to go.and he is now legal for us roads

caboose · 08-18-2008, 06:22 PM

I knew someone that got a skyline sent over here. Cost him 20k I believe... just for the shipping and the registration.

Sigurd8404 · 08-19-2008, 09:37 AM

Importing 2 JDM s2k's being less than a USDM s2k? Seriously?

First off, a JDM s2k runs you from 1,599,000 - 3,599,000+ yen, which is $14,500 - $32,500+. That's for the car alone.
Every JDM vehicle has to conform to the FMVSS we have set up here in America. Guess what, JDM vehicles are not crash test rated. You know what that means? If your car isn't on the list of acceptable vehciles, you'll have to buy a 3rd one and crash it. After the crash test you'll have to modify the 2 you want off of the crash test data so they will conform with the FMVSS. And just cause we have LHD s2k's here, it's been shown that RHD cars crash differently. So you can't get away with it conforming cause there's a LHD version here already. Also, an imported vehicle has to conform with all existing FMVSS regulations. That means that if a reg came out in '07 for example, and you want to import a '99, it still has to conform. So you get screwed into paying more for all that shit too. Than you have shipping and customs costs to go through still. Your logic and thought process is way off.

Your best bet is looking in Canada for one that has been made to conform to the CMVSS, which is closely related to our FMVSS. That way your work into getting it to conform, your money and time spent and the pile of paperwork to fill out will be slgihtly less.

Here's a link to the DOT rules, regulations, list of vehicles, list of registered importers and all the forms you'll need for them. Vehicle Importation Regulations

Happy hunting! But when you fail and end up buying a civic or something, let me know.

daGSRhatchNEPA · 08-20-2008, 08:13 AM

the import is the easy part for me. working with international shipments all day long. im just worried that i'll get the car in the us and then not be able to drive it... that would suck... any1 have a s2k dash?,jk

i also don't have emissions where i live and i know various people with inspection licenses.

SIG thanks for the fmvss lecture hmm...

nootrac22 · 08-20-2008, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daGSRhatchNEPA

the import is the easy part for me. working with international shipments all day long. im just worried that i'll get the car in the us and then not be able to drive it... that would suck... any1 have a s2k dash?,jk

yes you're right. you should open up your own import shop.

any god damn mongoloid can find a shipping/freight service..........

didn't you read anything posted here

caboose · 08-20-2008, 08:29 AM

What would it take to get it licensed under something like a kit car?

Sigurd8404 · 08-20-2008, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daGSRhatchNEPA

im just worried that i'll get the car in the us and then not be able to drive it...

The only way that'd happen is if you can't afford it. Which, unless your wasted fucking rich, you probably can't.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NHTSA Vehicle Importation Guidelines

...the importer must contract with a Registered Importer (RI) to modify the vehicle and post a DOT Conformance Bond in an amount equivalent to one and a half times the vehicle’s dutiable value. This bond is in addition to the normal Customs entry bond. Copies of the DOT Conformance Bond and the contract with an RI must be attached to the HS-7 form. Under the contract, the RI will modify the vehicle and certify that it conforms to all applicable FMVSS. Before an RI can modify a vehicle, NHTSA must have determined that the vehicle is eligible for importation based on its capability of being modified to conform to all applicable FMVSS. If no determination has been made, the RI must petition NHTSA to determine whether the vehicle is eligible for importation.

So that kinda shows the process and the true cost of it all for you.
1.) Buy 1 s2k and crash it to see if it can be modified to conform
2.) Buy your other 2 s2ks
3.) Pay for importing, using an RI
4.) Pay customs costs to get it into the US
5.) Put down a 1.5x value bond on both cars
6.) Pay for the RI to make the vehicle conform
7.) Pay for title, registration, etc.
8.) Don't crash or you just wasted a fucking ridiculous assload of money

Quote:

Originally Posted by daGSRhatchNEPA

i also don't have emissions where i live and i know various people with inspection licenses.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NHTSA Vehicle Importation Guidelines

For federal regulations concerning vehicle emissions, contact the Environmental Protection Agency, Certification and Compliance Division – Imports Program

...there are federal EPA rules. I haven't researched what they are and if an s2k would need to be modified, but don't just assume you won't have to do anything cause your state doesn't have emissions.

efhondakid · 08-20-2008, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caboose

What would it take to get it licensed under something like a kit car?

You import the shell, or find a wrecked shell in the states, then import a motor and you can register it as a kit car. ( I believe you can do it this way, Im not 100% positive on it though.)

caboose · 08-20-2008, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by efhondakid

You import the shell, or find a wrecked shell in the states, then import a motor and you can register it as a kit car. ( I believe you can do it this way, Im not 100% positive on it though.)

That's what I mean... buy two 2ks, pull motors, import them separate, install motors and license as kit car.

You might be able to find a loophole too, and be able to import them without a steering wheel or something...

Come to think of it, how would they even know if you imported them complete or not?

B · 08-20-2008, 02:16 PM

a kit car is a car without a vin.
since your cars have vins (even if not of this country) it is not a kit car.

caboose · 08-20-2008, 02:20 PM

florida "kit car" registration rules - RX7Club.com

INJEN78 · 08-20-2008, 02:29 PM

it really doesnt matter,i doubt this fool has the cash to even buy 1,let alone 2 and then import them

caboose · 08-20-2008, 02:30 PM

I don't know why someone would want two...

My guess was that he was thinking about importing one for himself and then selling the other for profit

awptickes · 08-20-2008, 02:37 PM

If it doesn't have a crash-test. Forget it.

I looked into importing my civic to the US. Not going to happen for less than $10000.

EDIT: it's so low, because I would get it shipped for free, and because everything else in the car is DOT spec.

caboose · 08-20-2008, 02:50 PM

I don't believe that kit cars require crash testing... IIRC

awptickes · 08-20-2008, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caboose

I don't believe that kit cars require crash testing... IIRC

Dude. Once again you're missing the point.

caboose · 08-20-2008, 03:04 PM

once AGAIN?
This is about that other thread. I respect Blanco because I think that he has a lot of good information, but having a crank ground and installing bearings to the correct spec... like every other manufacture does... it isn't going to change your durability much.

I don't understand the point that I'm missing here. He just want's to import a car as cheaply and easily as possible. If you read that thread that I posted, that's how people are doing it. They import all of the parts and assemble it and then call it a kit car.

08-19-2008, 09:37 AM	#29
Sigurd8404 Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: DC Age: 21 Posts: 30 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '94 Prelude S + Tokico blues/lowering springs, Sportstop slotted brakes, SS lines, AEM short ram Rep Power: 4	Importing 2 JDM s2k's being less than a USDM s2k? Seriously? First off, a JDM s2k runs you from 1,599,000 - 3,599,000+ yen, which is $14,500 - $32,500+. That's for the car alone. Every JDM vehicle has to conform to the FMVSS we have set up here in America. Guess what, JDM vehicles are not crash test rated. You know what that means? If your car isn't on the list of acceptable vehciles, you'll have to buy a 3rd one and crash it. After the crash test you'll have to modify the 2 you want off of the crash test data so they will conform with the FMVSS. And just cause we have LHD s2k's here, it's been shown that RHD cars crash differently. So you can't get away with it conforming cause there's a LHD version here already. Also, an imported vehicle has to conform with all existing FMVSS regulations. That means that if a reg came out in '07 for example, and you want to import a '99, it still has to conform. So you get screwed into paying more for all that shit too. Than you have shipping and customs costs to go through still. Your logic and thought process is way off. Your best bet is looking in Canada for one that has been made to conform to the CMVSS, which is closely related to our FMVSS. That way your work into getting it to conform, your money and time spent and the pile of paperwork to fill out will be slgihtly less. Here's a link to the DOT rules, regulations, list of vehicles, list of registered importers and all the forms you'll need for them. Vehicle Importation Regulations Happy hunting! But when you fail and end up buying a civic or something, let me know. __________________ R.I.P. HM2 Anthony Carbullido, KIA 08 Aug 08, Sangatesh Afghanistan. (See Avatar) He was my instructor in Corps School Dec '06-Apr '07 and on 08 Aug 08 an IED took the life of the best Goddamn instructor I have ever known. He always seemed invincible. You will be missed but never forgotten.

08-20-2008, 08:13 AM	#30
daGSRhatchNEPA JRSC LS Vtec 350 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: allentown Age: 25 Posts: 179 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1993 Honda Civic Rep Power: 0	the import is the easy part for me. working with international shipments all day long. im just worried that i'll get the car in the us and then not be able to drive it... that would suck... any1 have a s2k dash?,jk i also don't have emissions where i live and i know various people with inspection licenses. SIG thanks for the fmvss lecture hmm... Last edited by daGSRhatchNEPA; 08-20-2008 at 08:18 AM. Reason: add

08-20-2008, 02:37 PM	#40
awptickes Yes, that's road salt. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: MD Age: 22 Posts: 4,247 iTrader: 6 / 100% Ride: 1999 Civic EJ9, 2009 Fit GE8, 2006 Suzuki SV650s Rep Power: 232	If it doesn't have a crash-test. Forget it. I looked into importing my civic to the US. Not going to happen for less than $10000. EDIT: it's so low, because I would get it shipped for free, and because everything else in the car is DOT spec. Last edited by awptickes; 08-20-2008 at 02:39 PM.

08-20-2008, 03:04 PM	#43
caboose USDM to the bone Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hamilton, MI Age: 22 Posts: 490 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 96 Accord EX, 88 Dodge Daytona Shelby Z T-tops Rep Power: 25	once AGAIN? This is about that other thread. I respect Blanco because I think that he has a lot of good information, but having a crank ground and installing bearings to the correct spec... like every other manufacture does... it isn't going to change your durability much. I don't understand the point that I'm missing here. He just want's to import a car as cheaply and easily as possible. If you read that thread that I posted, that's how people are doing it. They import all of the parts and assemble it and then call it a kit car. __________________ Formerly the.original.kermit Back from the dead... twice 2001 GSR for parts http://hondaswap.com/vehicles-sale-t...-parts-465252/

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08-18-2008, 04:45 PM	#26
Jeef Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: CT Age: 30 Posts: 4,640 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 06 Chevy Silverado Rep Power: 109	To the OP if it was so cheap and easy to get cars from Jap dont you think we would all be doing this, I know if it was easy I would have a skyline in the garage.

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AHHVTEC Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Alabama Age: 30 Posts: 11,633 iTrader: 3 / 100% Ride: dc5,mk4 gti,2nd gen civic,92 accord cp,88 crx hf Rep Power: 349	a buddy of mine got a sir civic about 2 weeks ago, that was street legal in canada we took it to the dmv place they said so this car was registered in canada and he said yes, then they said well as long as all the lights and stuff work then if will be good to go.and he is now legal for us roads

08-18-2008, 06:22 PM	#28
caboose USDM to the bone Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hamilton, MI Age: 22 Posts: 490 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 96 Accord EX, 88 Dodge Daytona Shelby Z T-tops Rep Power: 25	I knew someone that got a skyline sent over here. Cost him 20k I believe... just for the shipping and the registration.

08-20-2008, 08:29 AM	#32
caboose USDM to the bone Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hamilton, MI Age: 22 Posts: 490 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 96 Accord EX, 88 Dodge Daytona Shelby Z T-tops Rep Power: 25	What would it take to get it licensed under something like a kit car?

08-20-2008, 02:16 PM	#36
B Administrator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: down in the villiage area Age: 29 Posts: 8,946 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2.0t Track Edition, 2000 Dakota Rep Power: 510	a kit car is a car without a vin. since your cars have vins (even if not of this country) it is not a kit car.

08-20-2008, 02:20 PM	#37
caboose USDM to the bone Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hamilton, MI Age: 22 Posts: 490 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 96 Accord EX, 88 Dodge Daytona Shelby Z T-tops Rep Power: 25	florida "kit car" registration rules - RX7Club.com

08-20-2008, 02:29 PM	#38
INJEN78 ¿GANGSTA GREMLIN? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT(860) VT(802) Age: 21 Posts: 8,264 iTrader: 7 / 100% Ride: 91 CRX si Rep Power: 242	it really doesnt matter,i doubt this fool has the cash to even buy 1,let alone 2 and then import them

08-20-2008, 02:30 PM	#39
caboose USDM to the bone Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hamilton, MI Age: 22 Posts: 490 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 96 Accord EX, 88 Dodge Daytona Shelby Z T-tops Rep Power: 25	I don't know why someone would want two... My guess was that he was thinking about importing one for himself and then selling the other for profit

08-20-2008, 02:50 PM	#41
caboose USDM to the bone Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hamilton, MI Age: 22 Posts: 490 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 96 Accord EX, 88 Dodge Daytona Shelby Z T-tops Rep Power: 25	I don't believe that kit cars require crash testing... IIRC

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