Mild rant thread, more just curious than anything: the male mind

[Aleaf.CRX]

Gee thanks. Appriciate the sarcasm.

[Luis998]

Let me know if you'd like me to and I will bust out my bazooka and proceed to shoot someone in the face with it.

Guys, girls, a lot of people in this world tell you exactly what you want to hear, just so they can get what they want. Whenever I run across someone like that, I look at them if we are face to face, smile, scratch my eye with my middle finger and just walk away.

[invisibledemon]

really?
when i come across those girls, i simply look them in the eye, and seriously say:
"really? if thats the case, then i get to stick it in your butt. and hard too, minimum lube."
that usually gets the story out. not many girls wanna be pumped in the ass.
and when one agrees, well, i cant say what i would do next. never came across that.

[D16Civic]

Well I think the biggest thing you're dealing with here is the fact that most of these cats are probably 18-21 years old. At that age, they want to get laid. Period. They probably have their own insecurities about themselves, and the rejection brought out some type of defense mechanism, so in order to feel good about themselves, then you become ugly, shitty car driver, etc. I never really made fun of anyone because of where they live(d), so I don't get that one.

My only suggestion is to try and meet some older guys (maybe 23-25ish). Keep in mind they probably are interested in the bar/club thing, and you being 19 would exclude you from that, and you have to be ok with the fact they will be hanging out where there are large numbers of drunken, single women as well. I'm sure glad I'm not single. Too much fucking work.

[Jeef]

Originally Posted by invisibledemon

well, it seems that maybe you need to work on your appearance, if you seem to meet these guys everywhere then you are doing something to give them that idea. you may not know it, but if it happens a lot, then you are.


some guys get defensive bc they dont know how to accept rejection. they cant seem to grasp that not every woman wants to have sex with them. and when that happens, they feel insulted. stupid people do stupid things. my brother is the exact same way. stop talking to people. when a guy approaches you with some kind of line like that, just tell them to go away.

I agree, dress like a slut you get treated like one. I do not know how you act but if you are a tease that is going to piss guys off. I have found many times that people get treated how they are. I know some girls who are sluts, dress like whores, are teases wondering why they can't find a decent guy. I do not know much about you but if you dress provacatively or have provacative photos on your myspace guys are going to think you are easy. Stuff like that gives a false impression.

[D16Civic]

She never even met this guy in person fellas. Not for sure, but I'm guessing if she doesn't know why he went off or had these expectations, she didn't tease or lead him on, and probably doesn't have sexy/provocative pictures on he myspace page.

[invisibledemon]

post the myspace messages, and no editing them. then we shall know. lol

[TommyTheCat]

Well, I was going to say you're okay because you acknowledge that this Myspace Persons' behavior is a bit nutty. But then you said you should go for 35-40 year olds. For this - you fail.

Saying "I get along a hell of a lot better with adults in their mid-thrities, early fourties."
Is different from "Go for older guys? Bingo."

This is a bad instinct.

[90_EF_Hatch]

Originally Posted by Ethan

So yea... Check out my myspace and give me a call 555-555-5555 and we can have some fun tonight.













*sings* Im gunna get some booty!

IM TELLING YOUR GIRLFRIEND ON YOU






pig ... haha jk :P

[BrutalB83]

Originally Posted by Aleaf.CRX

Dating him didn't even come into my head. Jesus, once and for all, I don't go looking for this shit on myspace, I don't sweet talk these guys into complimenting me or hanging out with me, they find me. I understand what everyone is trying to say about the myspace thing. I get that now. I also understand that maybe I am giving off some kind of signal to these guys that I'm not aware of, I'll look into that more.

But I don't want this kind of attention and definately am not looking for it through myspace.

I understand that these guys are making contact with you rather then you seeking them out, but even so, you're responding, which makes them hopeful. Just because some dude hits you up on MySpace doesn't mean you have to respond.

If you get a random friend request or message from a dude on MySpace that you don't know personally, he's either 1.) a friendless freak, or (more likely) 2.) a horny dude looking for ass. When these guys contact you, it's because they did a search of local 18-20 year old females, and they're probably writing "hey hottie, what's up?" messages to several other random chicks at the same time they're messaging you.

This particular guy that you're talking about is an asshole, no doubt. Here's my question for you though...how much contact did you have with him prior to his little outburst? If you seriously had barely spoken with him, he asked you to come over, and then flipped out when you rejected him, then he's psychotic. As someone else suggested, he will end up in jail someday, and he shouldn't be any concern of yours.

However, if you had spoken with him several times, flirted with him a bit (maybe not even intentionally, I'm just talking "LOL'ing" at his jokes), and then he asked you to hang out, well that's a little different. It's absolutely no excuse for him to treat you the way he did, but it makes more sense. I think you just need to keep in mind that dudes who are randomly contacting you via MySpace are 99% of the time looking for some play, and nothing else. If a dude contacts you and says "hey, you're hot, wanna chat?" you don't have to respond.

Dude was probably just pissed that he wasted his time on a dead end, so he lashed out just to make you feel bad about yourself. Like UNDR8D said, he probably wacked off and that night and now has completely forgotten about it. Dudes like this aren't even worth talking to. It will always end the same way...

[BrutalB83]

Oh, and just wanted to add one more thing to that. I know you said you're talking about guys in general, not just MySpace guys, but what I said applies to guys in general as well. Any guy who's obviously complementing you and trying to pick you up from the very get go probably isn't worth your time, and that's when you need to say "sorry, not really interested" and go on your way rather then giving them an in and letting them think they're getting somewhere with you. If they put some effort into it and then get rejected, that's when they're more likely to get nasty, like this recent dude did.

Just my 2 cents...take it or leave it...

[Aleaf.CRX]

Actually, I don't add people I don't know in some substantial way. I only add people from this site, my friends and family in real life, and maybe few people who're just interested in Honda's too. He happened to have a CRX. That's why I added him so we could talk about cars and shit and that's how it started out, however little we talked.
I barely talked to him after that, then he pretty asked me to come over to his house, at midnight, with no a/c and pretty much said fuck that and he just exploded.

But I'm not worried anymore, since I deleted my myspace anyway.

[George777]

Let's put the shoe on the other foot...

Why do women always come across as a bitch?

You think most guys are assholes, and a majority of guys think women are bitches. Who is to say either is right.

Perhaps men still have the mentality that women are inferior. Perhaps men are stuck in the high school logic that saying the right thing will get them what they want. Or perhaps it's their inability to discern their desires from the rest of the worlds. Who knows. But the same can be for women...While most women may not be as aggressive or grotesque as most men on their approach towards getting what they want--they do it more silently and stealthy. But just like men, woman portray the same qualities and perform the same actions as men, just in a different manner...Guys brag about getting with a girl. Woman will just talk to their friends about it. Women start dreaming of that second date, or the next time, and men just think about what got them there in the first place.

IMO, the most judgment, whether it be from the male or female side, is made within a short time after introduction or the introduction of more-than-nominal requests or innuendos. People are too afraid to deviate from the norms of society, yet some people can't seem to grasp the concept of acceptance. Whether it be intentional or not, some people's idea of tact differs from others, as well as the perception. To each their own.

[khrisb]

lol you deleted your myspace...i was gonna add you and call you a hottie...oh well...

[Aleaf.CRX]

Then I would've just told you to go stick a cock in it.

[khrisb]

lol jesus christ. can't take a joke much?

[UNDR8D]

Fuck all this retarded bullshit. You are smart enough to know the answers to your questions long before you ask them. This is about making the connection between intentions and actions. If you are such a steadfast opinionated non-conformist, why did you delete your Myspace. Why didn't you give everyone the usual Aleaf "fuck off cock swallower" response? Did you do it because you realized we were right or because you want to appease the crowd.

[Aleaf.CRX]

Wait, wtf are you talking about? I wasn't trying to be mean, I just don't care right now. I have WAAAAY more improtant shit to be doing with my time. I didn't give my typical response because it's fucking immature and I'm tired of associating with people like that, and the first step is change that shit in yourself. I did know the answers, I never denied that. But like I've said many-a-time in this thread, I'm bouncing ideas off of people. No one can figure things out on their own all the time. Besides, this ties into some other issues that I'm trying to work out.

I deleted my myspace because I was taking your guy's advice, but if you're gonna be such an a-hole about it, I won't make the same mistake twice.

You need to maybe think about some of the shit you say, before you say it. I respect a lot of what you have to say, but some things go too far.

[UNDR8D]

Originally Posted by Aleaf.CRX

Wait, wtf are you talking about? I wasn't trying to be mean, I just don't care right now. I have WAAAAY more improtant shit to be doing with my time. I didn't give my typical response because it's fucking immature and I'm tired of associating with people like that, and the first step is change that shit in yourself. I did know the answers, I never denied that. But like I've said many-a-time in this thread, I'm bouncing ideas off of people. No one can figure things out on their own all the time. Besides, this ties into some other issues that I'm trying to work out.

I deleted my myspace because I was taking your guy's advice, but if you're gonna be such an a-hole about it, I won't make the same mistake twice.

You need to maybe think about some of the shit you say, before you say it. I respect a lot of what you have to say, but some things go too far.

I applaud your efforts and for the first time, I see a great side of you emerging. You are right. It does help to have people help you through things and it's good that you deleted myspace. It is useless and evil. I expected that kind of response because I think only two or three posts before mine, you told someone that you would hae told him to stick a cock in it. That's just the kind of thing we are used to you saying. As far as what I say, I like to push the envelope to get people to think. I like to be confrontational but it's constructive confrontation. People get angry at first but after they cool down, they realize that I was either right, or that I pushed them towards a new understanding of something.

Bottom line, actions reciprocate themselves and you get what you give. You have to love yourself before you can love and you have to respect yourself before you can be respected. It starts with a mindset and ends in Bora Bora. Chew on that for a while.

[Aleaf.CRX]

I was half kidding about the "stick a cock in it" thing. I just think it sounds funny and I've always wanted to say it.

I actually take yours and others critism to heart. It just flat out pisses me off when a few of the people on here are like "Hey, I was gonna message you and call you hot" or some shit. That's retarded, kind of cruel, and not supportive at all.

And believe it or not, I think quite a bit and come to conculsions on my own a lot of the time. But sometimes, one brain just doesn't cut it.

[phyregod]

Hey, I was going to message you and call you hot.

But then I learned that you live in poopland. And I suspect you smell of poop.

[khrisb]

Originally Posted by Aleaf.CRX

I was half kidding about the "stick a cock in it" thing. I just think it sounds funny and I've always wanted to say it.

I actually take yours and others critism to heart. It just flat out pisses me off when a few of the people on here are like "Hey, I was gonna message you and call you hot" or some shit. That's retarded, kind of cruel, and not supportive at all.

And believe it or not, I think quite a bit and come to conculsions on my own a lot of the time. But sometimes, one brain just doesn't cut it.

[SlushboxTeggy]

OK so I finally sat down and read all 3 pages. First I want to start off with two of my favorite quotes.

Katt Williams- Women keep talking about N** ain't shit. Well maybe all the N** you fucked with ain't shit. You need to figure out what it is about your pussy, that keeps attracting ain't shit N**

While presented crudely, this quote simply points out the fact that you seem to keep attracting the same kind of guy. Maybe it's the way you dress, where you hang out, or just general bad luck. Think on that, there is probably a thing or two you can do to avoid some of these situations.

Superbad- You need to go somewhere social, non-threatening - like spin class or a farmer's market or the pumpkin patch, given the time of year.

You really truly want to meet a good guy? Go to where good guys go. Volunteer somewhere, etc. I would generally stay away from gyms, speed shops, etc. I consider myself a generally nice guy when I want to be, and I don't go after girls in certain locations. At the gym, I'm there to work out, not pick up chicks, etc.

Now to address this Myspace clown. What he did was not even Game 101. You can't let things like that phase you. Like Jay-Z said, "Get that dirt off your shoulder." You don't let things phase you and 1 of 2 things will happen. 1) He shows how much of a clown he is, gets even madder, and your good=WIN. 2) A good guy who maybe stepped over a line, realizes it, and possibly tries to solve said issue. This requires a reaction from you, but in my book is still=WIN.

What you do need to be weary of is guys that actually have some sort of game. Guys who not only know what to say to make you smile/happy, but what to say to piss you off, yet still maintain your interest. Sort of ignore you, but have you still thinking I'm a great guy, etc. etc. These guys are the most dangerous, you don't realize we're assholes until it's too late and we already got what we wanted. I've said it before, I treat girls with the level of respect that they demand for themselves. One Night Stand, I treat you that way. You let me call you a slut or a whore, as long as I laugh and smile afterwards, I'll continue doing it.

You know why I am hung up on that girl Meg? She didn't let me kiss her the first night, she got mad when I called her a name, she demanded a level of respect I wasn't use to giving. That to me is incredibly sexy. You want guys to treat you a certain way, demand that they do.

You seem that you might have a slight handle on this but not completely. You'll know you have it when people think you're a bitch, but your friends/guys see you completely the opposite.

[Ethan]

Originally Posted by 90_EF_Hatch

IM TELLING YOUR GIRLFRIEND ON YOU






pig ... haha jk :P

Oh shit nooooooooooo!

[Aleaf.CRX]

Originally Posted by khrisb

Seriously. I don't need that. Don't like it, stay out.


I do have somewhat of a grasp on this, but since that's the only kind of guy I have attracted, well, basically my whole pubescent life, it's hard to just change over night. I don't want a boyfriend at this point in time, I don't want a fling, I just want respect. Almost ALL the guys in my life (brother, father, etc.) don't give me that kind of respect. I'm very clear when it comes to kind of respect I want. I believe I am anyway. I sat down and told my mom exactly what I wanted out of all this, and what respect I think I deserve. I don't want much. Just some recognition that I am different than most girls and that if you respect my property and feelings, I'll do the same plus some.