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mwasnp · 02-16-2003, 09:43 PM

In the new motor trend, or car and driver, they are saying honda has a prototype of the new civic si (same body style

) but the motor is turbo charged! It is close enough to production that they have a hp figure, 230 hp! Thats not bad. Just thought I would share.

asmallsol · 02-16-2003, 09:59 PM

That would kick ass. The only thing that is lacking is a good solid suspension like the older civics had.

pissedoffsol · 02-16-2003, 11:52 PM

1st honda turbo car ehh? sounds like it will have the reliability of a 1st gen eclipse

lsvtec · 02-16-2003, 11:59 PM

First Honda turbo car in the states, yes. First Honda turbo car period, no.

**H0ndap0w3r** · 02-17-2003, 12:01 AM

honda made turbo cars b4???????? really????

90 accord · 02-17-2003, 12:03 AM

yeah.. some civics in the mid 80's had a turbo in it, and theres a honda jetski turboed with 150 hp

SixtySecondAssassin · 02-17-2003, 12:05 AM

i dont think it came in civics. the honda city had a turbo version as well as honda vigor/legend, i forget which one.

90 accord · 02-17-2003, 12:11 AM

coulda swore it was in a civic.. i ono...

i know they had a turboed car here..

the honda beat is turbo, over in japan right?

DazedCivic99 · 02-17-2003, 01:08 AM

i got my dad to go test drive one of the new civics so that i could drive it, it was ugly as hell. but the inside was nice, i loved where the stick was and the steering wheel was nice. the seats were great i didnt want to get out until i saw its reflection. the acceleration and handling were nice too. if the body styling was different i would get it in a heartbeat, next week we are test driving the RSX type s and whatever else is on the lot

92b16vx · 02-17-2003, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SixtySecondAssassin@Feb 17 2003, 06:10 AM
i dont think it came in civics. the honda city had a turbo version as well as honda vigor/legend, i forget which one.

Yip,it was the Legend,very limited for test audience in Japan.Guess it didn't work out to well.

02SI · 02-17-2003, 08:03 PM

It is the concept version of the SI that is going to be Turbocharged, also it will a bad ass LCD Speedometer screen where you can change from the usually circular view, can't remember the name, or the way it looks on the S2000, can't remember the name on that one either. I wish instead of Turbocharging it brought out a legitimate(SP?) Type R, but oh well.

DazedCivic99 · 02-17-2003, 08:13 PM

02si i am gathering you have a 2002 civic Si, do u like it, i loved the test drive i had in one

asmallsol · 02-17-2003, 08:49 PM

honda japan web site translated
I linked this before.

Quote:

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The SI styling is growing on me but the weight and suspension kills it. Where did the wishbone suspension go?

SpyderGS · 02-18-2003, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pissedoffsol@Feb 16 2003, 11:57 PM
1st honda turbo car ehh? sounds like it will have the reliability of a 1st gen eclipse

Hey now, turbo 1g dsm's are pretty reliable. It's the non-turbo ones that break down more often. The 2.0 NT engine is a 4g63, except of course it's missing the turbo parts and stuff. So of course an engine that's designed with a turbo in mind won't do that well when it's naturally aspirated. And plus mitsu used lower quality parts to build those NT motors too. No need to fortify an engine making only ~130hp.

Domeskilla · 02-18-2003, 11:58 AM

Even though mine was a 2g, it was NA and it wasn't exactly reliable either, but all of the cars with the 4g63 (turboed) are reliable.

= 4g63

= 420a <-- was the shit box i had under my hood

saturn_boy96 · 02-18-2003, 12:25 PM

my friend has a 2g talon with a 420a and we were looking at turboing it but the 420a and 4g63 are nothing alike. the only similarity we could see were the head design. the blocks are totally different.

MaaseyRacer · 02-18-2003, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by asmallsol@Feb 17 2003, 05:54 PM
honda japan web site translated
I linked this before.

shit seeing that sight pisses me off, why did we not get the 6 speed civic type R...

02SI · 02-18-2003, 05:33 PM

We need a real Type R in america, I am so sick of seeing people with Type R all in the right places, then I challenge them to a race, see the steering wheel is on the left side, (should be on the right if it was a legit type R) then they don't want to race I hat that shit. Back to the subject, I hate stock turbo cars I would rather have it all motor and slap on my own turbo, just my opinion.

P.S. Dazed I PM'd you with the answer to my question.

dohcvtec_accord · 02-18-2003, 05:35 PM

Ummm, so what makes an Acura Integra Type R not a "legit Type R"?

02SI · 02-18-2003, 05:43 PM

Did Honda ever bring a Type R in America? I don't believe so. I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure they never have. Now if Type R is all in the right places on the car and the steering whell is on the right, there is a pretty damn good possibility that the car is a type R, and I won't race. Now, if you have a Type R engine that is a different story, but it will never be a real type R, so don't put it on your car. It is the same thing when people put GTR on a Nissan, or Mustang GT. Also putting SS or a Cobra on a six cylinder, uh it is single exhaust dumbass you give it away right there, people are just dumb sometimes.

dohcvtec_accord · 02-18-2003, 05:46 PM

Ummmmmmm....

Integra Type R's were brought to America under the Acura name from 1996-2001.

Welcome to planet Earth.

asmallsol · 02-18-2003, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dohcvtec_accord@Feb 18 2003, 05:51 PM

Ummmmmmm....

Integra Type R's were brought to America under the Acura name from 1994-2001.

Welcome to planet Earth.

there wernt type R's in 94 or 95, they started importing them in 96-2001

Oh and 02si, they were LHD

dohcvtec_accord · 02-18-2003, 06:04 PM

Ack, that's what I get when I'm doing research for 94-97 Accords while trying to figure out them dang B-series.

Thanks for the whack on the head. Edited.

LingeringSoul · 02-18-2003, 06:13 PM

honda never made a production car with a turbo. They are, however, the authority on twin-turbocharged V-6s, which were in their formula-1 racecars in the late 80s.

dohcvtec_accord · 02-18-2003, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LingeringSoul@Feb 18 2003, 04:18 PM
honda never made a production car with a turbo. They are, however, the authority on twin-turbocharged V-6s, which were in their formula-1 racecars in the late 80s.

Nah, that's wrong, they made something called the Honda City. This was discussed somewhere before.

Check out this thread:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/Racecraft/Hon...ity_turbos.html

They also make mention of a turboed 2.5L Legend, musta also been J-spec.

02-16-2003, 09:43 PM	#1
mwasnp Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hopkins, MN Posts: 275 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	In the new motor trend, or car and driver, they are saying honda has a prototype of the new civic si (same body style ) but the motor is turbo charged! It is close enough to production that they have a hp figure, 230 hp! Thats not bad. Just thought I would share. __________________ 1990 CRX DX in the works, ls swap now running IN CAR! RDM ownz JOOOO!!!!!!!!!

02-16-2003, 09:59 PM	#2
asmallsol Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Houghton/Livonia Michigan Age: 22 Posts: 8,093 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 93 del Sol Gas sipper Rep Power: 95	That would kick ass. The only thing that is lacking is a good solid suspension like the older civics had. __________________ Collin Material Science and Engineering Michigan Technological University

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lsvtec GNU/Linux Evangelist Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Greater Portland, OR Posts: 5,497 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: The Cheapest Road Bicycle I could get Rep Power: 67	First Honda turbo car in the states, yes. First Honda turbo car period, no. __________________ v3sw7+9Chw6ln3pr7Ock4ma9w3TXm3l7GDF i7Ce6+8t4MNb8Oen6g6RAOa26s5MRp6 hackerkey.com

02-17-2003, 12:03 AM	#6
90 accord Chicks dig the box Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Tucson, AZ Age: 24 Posts: 4,610 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2006 Scion xB Rep Power: 61	yeah.. some civics in the mid 80's had a turbo in it, and theres a honda jetski turboed with 150 hp __________________ i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i! i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i! i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i http://www.hondashowoff.com/profile.php?id=3331 <-- my former SI This is blue

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SixtySecondAssassin Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,071 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 23	i dont think it came in civics. the honda city had a turbo version as well as honda vigor/legend, i forget which one. __________________ .....deagle.....


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pissedoffsol RETIRED Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Retirement Home Age: 28 Posts: 49,974 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: Electric Scooter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 529	1st honda turbo car ehh? sounds like it will have the reliability of a 1st gen eclipse

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90 accord Chicks dig the box Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Tucson, AZ Age: 24 Posts: 4,610 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2006 Scion xB Rep Power: 61	coulda swore it was in a civic.. i ono... i know they had a turboed car here.. the honda beat is turbo, over in japan right? __________________ i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i! i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i! i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i !i!i!i!i!i!i!i!i http://www.hondashowoff.com/profile.php?id=3331 <-- my former SI This is blue

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DazedCivic99 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 667 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 19	i got my dad to go test drive one of the new civics so that i could drive it, it was ugly as hell. but the inside was nice, i loved where the stick was and the steering wheel was nice. the seats were great i didnt want to get out until i saw its reflection. the acceleration and handling were nice too. if the body styling was different i would get it in a heartbeat, next week we are test driving the RSX type s and whatever else is on the lot __________________ 1999 Civic SI 2004 Jeep Rubicon

02-17-2003, 08:03 PM	#11
02SI Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 91 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 12	It is the concept version of the SI that is going to be Turbocharged, also it will a bad ass LCD Speedometer screen where you can change from the usually circular view, can't remember the name, or the way it looks on the S2000, can't remember the name on that one either. I wish instead of Turbocharging it brought out a legitimate(SP?) Type R, but oh well.

02-17-2003, 08:13 PM	#12
DazedCivic99 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 667 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 19	02si i am gathering you have a 2002 civic Si, do u like it, i loved the test drive i had in one __________________ 1999 Civic SI 2004 Jeep Rubicon

02-18-2003, 11:58 AM	#15
Domeskilla Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Posts: 2,948 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 42	Even though mine was a 2g, it was NA and it wasn't exactly reliable either, but all of the cars with the 4g63 (turboed) are reliable. = 4g63 = 420a <-- was the shit box i had under my hood __________________ For all your air suspension needs <a href=\'http://www.ultimatesporttruck.com\' target=\'_blank\'>Three Rivers Ultimate Sport Truck</a> There are many misconceptions of air ride and handling. A lot of bullshit spread, please PM if you wish to put air on your car/truck. You will get the 411. There ARE ppl who race with air ride, just have to know how to install it right.

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saturn_boy96 88 C1V1C 53D4N DR1V3R Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sheridan, WY Age: 26 Posts: 1,507 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2006 Suzuki Aerio Rep Power: 29	my friend has a 2g talon with a 420a and we were looking at turboing it but the 420a and 4g63 are nothing alike. the only similarity we could see were the head design. the blocks are totally different.

02-18-2003, 05:33 PM	#18
02SI Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 91 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 12	We need a real Type R in america, I am so sick of seeing people with Type R all in the right places, then I challenge them to a race, see the steering wheel is on the left side, (should be on the right if it was a legit type R) then they don't want to race I hat that shit. Back to the subject, I hate stock turbo cars I would rather have it all motor and slap on my own turbo, just my opinion. P.S. Dazed I PM'd you with the answer to my question.

02-18-2003, 05:35 PM	#19
dohcvtec_accord WRX Sellout Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The left lane Age: 31 Posts: 8,498 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2002 WRB Impreza WRX Rep Power: 97	Ummm, so what makes an Acura Integra Type R not a "legit Type R"? __________________ This space left intentionally blank.

02-18-2003, 05:43 PM	#20
02SI Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 91 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 12	Did Honda ever bring a Type R in America? I don't believe so. I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure they never have. Now if Type R is all in the right places on the car and the steering whell is on the right, there is a pretty damn good possibility that the car is a type R, and I won't race. Now, if you have a Type R engine that is a different story, but it will never be a real type R, so don't put it on your car. It is the same thing when people put GTR on a Nissan, or Mustang GT. Also putting SS or a Cobra on a six cylinder, uh it is single exhaust dumbass you give it away right there, people are just dumb sometimes.

02-18-2003, 05:46 PM	#21
dohcvtec_accord WRX Sellout Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The left lane Age: 31 Posts: 8,498 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2002 WRB Impreza WRX Rep Power: 97	Ummmmmmm.... Integra Type R's were brought to America under the Acura name from 1996-2001. Welcome to planet Earth. __________________ This space left intentionally blank.

02-18-2003, 06:04 PM	#23
dohcvtec_accord WRX Sellout Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The left lane Age: 31 Posts: 8,498 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2002 WRB Impreza WRX Rep Power: 97	Ack, that's what I get when I'm doing research for 94-97 Accords while trying to figure out them dang B-series. Thanks for the whack on the head. Edited. __________________ This space left intentionally blank.

02-18-2003, 06:13 PM	#24
LingeringSoul Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	honda never made a production car with a turbo. They are, however, the authority on twin-turbocharged V-6s, which were in their formula-1 racecars in the late 80s.

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