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awptickes · 08-13-2008, 01:13 PM

Nissan develops eco pedal to assist smart driving | Industries | Consumer Goods & Retail | Reuters

In soviet russia, the gas pedal pushes you!

This is awesome. I can't tell you how much gas this'll save the average American. People need to get the idea that you don't have to go WOT to get going from a red light.

Honestly, it'll probably make people more courtous on the roads too. When the car tells you "Woah buddy, not so hard!" it'll change peoples' minds. Unfortunately, this will probably only ever be a feature that's turned off by default.

I'm glad to see that Nissan is taking another route to increase fuel economy. It's become aparent that most people don't care about the MPG meter in their cluster. Honda's sollution is to electronicly control the gas pedal, giving the ECU the ability to open up the throttle plate on its own, but it doesn't judge how much acceleration is too much....

2000Si · 08-13-2008, 01:28 PM

So what happens when you're making a left turn with a small window of opportunity? It won't let you go WOT and you get tagged by opposing traffic? Good idea, and I agree with you that people tag the pedal through the floor off red lights, but a lot of times WOT is a necessity.

awptickes · 08-13-2008, 01:31 PM

It's got issues, yeah. I'd have problems with it on the autobahn. Sometimes there's only a 5 meter opening to pass in. Not to mention having to go from 50km/h to 140km/h to get going with traffic when you get on.

reckedracing · 08-13-2008, 01:35 PM

i've gotten hooked to watching the wideband in my civic
-20vac = low 14's
-10vac = low 13's
+7 = 10's
still need to get it tuned

B · 08-13-2008, 01:39 PM

this is fucking retarded.
i will never own a car like this.

awptickes · 08-13-2008, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reckedracing

i've gotten hooked to watching the wideband in my civic
-20vac = low 14's
-10vac = low 13's
+7 = 10's
still need to get it tuned

I watch it too, justI almost never go past -10 vac, so I stay in open loop, and maintain ~14.7

B16RacerN2NR · 08-13-2008, 01:46 PM

that is fucking retarded and so is Nissan. They are also making the development harder on themselves. Why not work smarter, not harder, and just limit the pedal travel instead of making something that pushes back? Fucking rookies...

Slow&Delirious · 08-13-2008, 02:37 PM

if i buy a car with 250hp i want to get 250hp when i want 250hp, not when the car "THINKS" i need 250hp.

Aleaf.CRX · 08-13-2008, 02:44 PM

Cars aren't supposed to "think" in the first place. They're just supposed to drive. Who wants a a car that drives but is also the backseat driver?

E_SolSi · 08-13-2008, 02:57 PM

i cant stand ABS, and there is absolutely no fucking way i would tolerate AAT (Anti Acceleration Throttle)

Aleaf.CRX · 08-13-2008, 03:09 PM

^^^
You're the second person I've ever heard that has come out and said that about ABS. My dad also hates it, so turns it off when he can.

Slow&Delirious · 08-13-2008, 03:12 PM

ABS stops you slower but safer, So its a personal choice i guess

i havent been fortunate enough to ever drive a car with ABS equipped

Aleaf.CRX · 08-13-2008, 03:28 PM

I jacked my dad's Jeep when I was 15, but that was first car I ever really got to drive, so I don't know lol. His Jeep had ABS.

B · 08-13-2008, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slow&Delirious

ABS stops you slower for idiots who don't know how to drive or control car in a slide

fixed

Slow&Delirious · 08-13-2008, 03:50 PM

exactly, But the diffrence in price on cars with & w/o is crazy

i wouldnt even consider ABS when buying a car, its pointless

B · 08-13-2008, 04:02 PM

you pretty much can't buy a car without it now...

BrutalB83 · 08-13-2008, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2000Si

So what happens when you're making a left turn with a small window of opportunity? It won't let you go WOT and you get tagged by opposing traffic? Good idea, and I agree with you that people tag the pedal through the floor off red lights, but a lot of times WOT is a necessity.

Apparently it's something you can turn on and off, not something you have to abide by...

awptickes · 08-13-2008, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slow&Delirious

ABS stops you slower for idiots who don't know how to drive or control car in a slide

fixed.

Yeah, I firmly believe that everyone who owns/drives a car over 100 HP should be required to go to a performance driving school.

Slow&Delirious · 08-13-2008, 05:07 PM

sounds like a good idea, i would enjoy it

invisibledemon · 08-14-2008, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B

you pretty much can't buy a car without it now...

base base mazda 3 comes without abs, and without side or curtain airbags. just the two in the front.

Slow&Delirious · 08-14-2008, 02:55 PM

when i brought up the price thing earlier, i was talking about when i was at a GM dealership & i was looking at some Firebirds & Corvettes (older models) there was a couple thousand dollar diffrence in the ones with and without ABS.

i think the ATT will be the same way, just something useless that people will end up paying a lot for

cressidakiller · 09-02-2008, 02:40 PM

Awful. I hate ESC and ESP stuff. If you can turn it off and on, less of an issue. Hope Nader doesn't try to make it mandatory.

DarkHand · 09-02-2008, 03:22 PM

I've got no problem with it, as long as it can be turned off. There are people on the roads right now who can't properly operate a can opener, let alone the 3000lb rolling hunk of death that they're flinging down the freeway. Anything to help them is A Good Thing.

I think the pedal just gives resistance; you can still overpower it and scoot out of a dangerous situation if you need to.

Korax · 09-02-2008, 05:34 PM

I dissabled the ABS in my EX Accord. I love all the people that call/e-mail me worring about ABS/VSC/traction.. etc... like they are the only options that they care about. I can understand snow or even rain and and wanting some kind of stability system.... maybe. Oh, and also if I'm driving some aAWD beast like the EVO/GT-R. 90% of the time all these things do is hinder your driving ability. Look at the 350Z and the g35.. utter junk unless you get rid of the traction control.. limiting throttle etc.. its just bs.

phyregod · 09-02-2008, 06:27 PM

I want an optional lane on all highways and interstates. A lane with an electronic track right down the middle of it. Hop on the interstate, merge into the lane, and hit "autopilot". Traffic computers take over, noone ever has to stop, bumper to bumper at speed, no problem. The lane can control the accel/decel however much it likes, because my ass is going to be kicked back snoozing.

08-13-2008, 01:13 PM	#1
awptickes Reverend Awptickes Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bel Air, MD Age: 21 Posts: 3,953 iTrader: 6 / 100% Ride: 1999 Civic EJ9, 2009 Fit GE8, 2006 Suzuki SV650s Rep Power: 189	Nissan develops "eco" pedal to push back when you stomp Nissan develops eco pedal to assist smart driving \| Industries \| Consumer Goods & Retail \| Reuters In soviet russia, the gas pedal pushes you! This is awesome. I can't tell you how much gas this'll save the average American. People need to get the idea that you don't have to go WOT to get going from a red light. Honestly, it'll probably make people more courtous on the roads too. When the car tells you "Woah buddy, not so hard!" it'll change peoples' minds. Unfortunately, this will probably only ever be a feature that's turned off by default. I'm glad to see that Nissan is taking another route to increase fuel economy. It's become aparent that most people don't care about the MPG meter in their cluster. Honda's sollution is to electronicly control the gas pedal, giving the ECU the ability to open up the throttle plate on its own, but it doesn't judge how much acceleration is too much.... __________________ ☻/ DIY/Howto HID Projector retrofit /▌ / \ Last edited by awptickes; 08-13-2008 at 01:15 PM.

08-13-2008, 01:31 PM	#3
awptickes Reverend Awptickes Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bel Air, MD Age: 21 Posts: 3,953 iTrader: 6 / 100% Ride: 1999 Civic EJ9, 2009 Fit GE8, 2006 Suzuki SV650s Rep Power: 189	It's got issues, yeah. I'd have problems with it on the autobahn. Sometimes there's only a 5 meter opening to pass in. Not to mention having to go from 50km/h to 140km/h to get going with traffic when you get on. __________________ ☻/ DIY/Howto HID Projector retrofit /▌ / \

08-13-2008, 01:46 PM	#7
B16RacerN2NR I'll be back... Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga - UTI Age: 26 Posts: 5,079 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 06 Mazda 5, 91 Civic DX Rep Power: 156	that is fucking retarded and so is Nissan. They are also making the development harder on themselves. Why not work smarter, not harder, and just limit the pedal travel instead of making something that pushes back? Fucking rookies... __________________ Real Eyes Realize Real Lies

08-13-2008, 02:37 PM	#8
Slow&Delirious Err ___ GTFO Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Orlando FL. Age: 20 Posts: 468 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 01' Civic & 95' Del Sol Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 13	if i buy a car with 250hp i want to get 250hp when i want 250hp, not when the car "THINKS" i need 250hp. __________________ (((Family Guy FTW)))

08-13-2008, 03:12 PM	#12
Slow&Delirious Err ___ GTFO Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Orlando FL. Age: 20 Posts: 468 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 01' Civic & 95' Del Sol Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 13	ABS stops you slower but safer, So its a personal choice i guess i havent been fortunate enough to ever drive a car with ABS equipped __________________ (((Family Guy FTW)))


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08-13-2008, 01:35 PM	#4
reckedracing TTIWWOP Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: 845 Area, NY Age: 29 Posts: 15,381 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90 z6-t hatch, 94 Bagged S10, 91 Lifted Mazda Rep Power: 411	i've gotten hooked to watching the wideband in my civic -20vac = low 14's -10vac = low 13's +7 = 10's still need to get it tuned

08-13-2008, 01:39 PM	#5
B Administrator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: across the way Age: 29 Posts: 8,020 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 318ti, dakota, genesis 2.0t Rep Power: 403	this is fucking retarded. i will never own a car like this.

08-13-2008, 02:44 PM	#9
Aleaf.CRX Hates Cunts! Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,025 iTrader: 0 / 0% Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 72	Cars aren't supposed to "think" in the first place. They're just supposed to drive. Who wants a a car that drives but is also the backseat driver?

08-13-2008, 03:09 PM	#11
Aleaf.CRX Hates Cunts! Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,025 iTrader: 0 / 0% Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 72	^^^ You're the second person I've ever heard that has come out and said that about ABS. My dad also hates it, so turns it off when he can.

08-13-2008, 03:28 PM	#13
Aleaf.CRX Hates Cunts! Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,025 iTrader: 0 / 0% Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 72	I jacked my dad's Jeep when I was 15, but that was first car I ever really got to drive, so I don't know lol. His Jeep had ABS.

08-13-2008, 03:50 PM	#15
Slow&Delirious Err ___ GTFO Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Orlando FL. Age: 20 Posts: 468 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 01' Civic & 95' Del Sol Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 13	exactly, But the diffrence in price on cars with & w/o is crazy i wouldnt even consider ABS when buying a car, its pointless __________________ (((Family Guy FTW)))

08-13-2008, 04:02 PM	#16
B Administrator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: across the way Age: 29 Posts: 8,020 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 318ti, dakota, genesis 2.0t Rep Power: 403	you pretty much can't buy a car without it now...

08-13-2008, 05:07 PM	#19
Slow&Delirious Err ___ GTFO Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Orlando FL. Age: 20 Posts: 468 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 01' Civic & 95' Del Sol Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 13	sounds like a good idea, i would enjoy it __________________ (((Family Guy FTW)))

08-14-2008, 02:55 PM	#21
Slow&Delirious Err ___ GTFO Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Orlando FL. Age: 20 Posts: 468 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 01' Civic & 95' Del Sol Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 13	when i brought up the price thing earlier, i was talking about when i was at a GM dealership & i was looking at some Firebirds & Corvettes (older models) there was a couple thousand dollar diffrence in the ones with and without ABS. i think the ATT will be the same way, just something useless that people will end up paying a lot for __________________ (((Family Guy FTW)))

09-02-2008, 02:40 PM	#22
cressidakiller Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DC Age: 29 Posts: 255 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 87 crx si Rep Power: 10	Awful. I hate ESC and ESP stuff. If you can turn it off and on, less of an issue. Hope Nader doesn't try to make it mandatory.

09-02-2008, 05:34 PM	#24
Korax Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Western PA Age: 24 Posts: 692 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1990 ED DX jdm D15B dual carb;x 1991 ED DX B16A OBD0 Rep Power: 21	I dissabled the ABS in my EX Accord. I love all the people that call/e-mail me worring about ABS/VSC/traction.. etc... like they are the only options that they care about. I can understand snow or even rain and and wanting some kind of stability system.... maybe. Oh, and also if I'm driving some aAWD beast like the EVO/GT-R. 90% of the time all these things do is hinder your driving ability. Look at the 350Z and the g35.. utter junk unless you get rid of the traction control.. limiting throttle etc.. its just bs. __________________ PSN: Korax37

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