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eg6sir · 04-19-2006, 12:42 PM

yep.. went back to the BAR ref. hoping i would pass after i got a valve adjustment and changed my cat. nope.. i measured higher than i ever have..i failed on 3 tests instead of 1...... FUCK!!!

anyone have any ideas of what could be doing this.. i circled where i went over..

the top is the idle and the bottom is the 2500 rpm
the pic is a little blurry here are the readings

CO2= 14.2(idle) 14.4 (2500)
02= 0.0 (idle) 0.1 (2500)
HC=341 (idle) max = 100 <---failed
HC=132 (2500) max = 130 <---- failed
CO=1.18 (idle) max = 1.00 <----- failed..
CO=0.83 (2500) max = 1.00

formby · 04-19-2006, 12:54 PM

fuck man....move..

just leave..

did you do anything else?

JDMPlaya · 04-19-2006, 12:59 PM

im so glad i dont have to deal with that bs

eg6sir · 04-19-2006, 01:01 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(formby @ Apr 19 2006, 09:54 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
fuck man....move..

just leave..

did you do anything else?
[/b][/quote]
cant really just get up and move.. once i get the sticker in the door i wont have any issues with smog.. i have a place that will smog it regardless... but not without the motor being registered in the car..

when i very first went there.. i measured 120 on the idle HC test... i changed what i needed to change.. went and tested again.. i measured at 276 on the idle HC test.. after that i changed my plugs, wires, put some guaranteed to pass bullshit in my car.. still nothing.. so after that i went to get a diagnostic to see why i measured even higher.. they told me to change my cat, get a valve adjustment and change my CTS and i should pass.. well that was bullshit .. i measured even higher and i failed 2 other tests after doing this shit..

i'm just gonna take it to a shop and have them do everything.. i'm sick of fucking with it..

hosmer · 04-19-2006, 01:08 PM

stick some steel wool behind your cat

reckedracing · 04-19-2006, 01:13 PM

what kind of cat did you put in?

and what is the HC? hydro carbons?
do you have a chipped ecu?
i would try getting a chip running lean for the test...
what octane are you running?
you could also look into running a half tank of toluene with the other half being 93 octane?
who did you valve adjustment?
do you have a FPR?

eg6sir · 04-19-2006, 01:15 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hosmer @ Apr 19 2006, 10:08 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
stick some steel wool behind your cat
[/b][/quote]
yea.. let me just put my arm through about 5 ft of exhaust piping

reckedracing · 04-19-2006, 01:16 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>yea.. let me just put my arm through about 5 ft of exhaust piping[/b][/quote]
you know the cat unbolts right????

[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bash.gif[/img]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>i just went to a muffler shop and had them put on a cat..[/b][/quote]
did you get a high preformance cat? or some universal piece of shit?
i would get an OEM cat? or at least make sure its not a straight through cat...

eg6sir · 04-19-2006, 01:21 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(reckedracing @ Apr 19 2006, 10:13 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
what kind of cat did you put in?

and what is the HC? hydro carbons?
do you have a chipped ecu?
i would try getting a chip running lean for the test...
what octane are you running?
you could also look into running a half tank of toluene with the other half being 93 octane?
who did you valve adjustment?
do you have a FPR?
[/b][/quote]

it just a cat from a muffler shop
yes, hydro carbons
no i dont have a chipped ecu, its a usdm p30 and i'm not touching it..
i run 91 octane..
local import shop did the valve adjustment
no i dont have a FPR, had one.. ref told me to lose it.. its an automatic fail..

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(reckedracing @ Apr 19 2006, 10:16 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>

you know the cat unbolts right????

[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bash.gif[/img]

[/b][/quote]
not if its welded
[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bash.gif[/img]

and i'm not sure what cat it is.. a buddy of mine had to change his and the same one worked for him.. he had it changed the same place i go..

reckedracing · 04-19-2006, 01:25 PM

so they welded your cat in place?
sawzall and then band clamp it back together
you wanna pass or not?

why not swap out the P30 with something chipped then?

i'm just brain storming for ideas here...

eg6sir · 04-19-2006, 01:30 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(reckedracing @ Apr 19 2006, 10:25 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
so they welded your cat in place?
sawzall and then band clamp it back together
you wanna pass or not?

why not swap out the P30 with something chipped then?

i'm just brain storming for ideas here...
[/b][/quote]

its not welded to the exhaust manifold just after the cat..

.. i have to have a usdm p30 from the del sol vtec to pass

hosmer · 04-19-2006, 01:31 PM

never weld a cat on...

especially when you have to pass emissions.

eg6sir · 04-19-2006, 01:32 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hosmer @ Apr 19 2006, 10:31 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
never weld a cat on...

especially when you have to pass emissions.
[/b][/quote]

why is that.. ??

reckedracing · 04-19-2006, 01:32 PM

put the steel wool before the cat then?
i would unbolt it and see if its a straight through
i've never heard of a NEW cat giving you worse results...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>.. i have to have a usdm p30 from the del sol vtec to pass[/b][/quote]
you said you didn't wanna chip your stock one, so why not get one thats already been chipped?

does it cost money for each smog inspection?

eg6sir · 04-19-2006, 01:36 PM

i cant really do much myself, i had surgery yesterday.. i can barely drive..

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(reckedracing @ Apr 19 2006, 10:32 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>

you said you didn't wanna chip your stock one, so why not get one thats already been chipped?

does it cost money for each smog inspection?
[/b][/quote]
you get a free retest with a paid test.. this is only the second time i paid..

GSRCRXsi · 04-19-2006, 01:47 PM

try running like 60% denatured alcohol in the gas tank. i cant remember the exact ratio of gas to alcohol, but it will make you burn CLEAN. might be something to look into...

eg6sir · 04-19-2006, 01:49 PM

i'm gonna get it to a shop today.. i just want my car back.. havent had it tagged in almost a year now..

reckedracing · 04-19-2006, 01:50 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>i cant really do much myself, i had surgery yesterday.. i can barely drive..[/b][/quote]

ouch, what kind of surgery?

i would look into the toluene or alcohol mix with gas...
might be cheating a little but it'll give you a clear smog cert...

eg6sir · 04-19-2006, 01:54 PM

well i had cancer.. and i had to have an ashcath put in my chest for a stemcell treatment to wipe out my cancer a while back.. i had it removed, so i'm a little sore..

reckedracing · 04-19-2006, 01:57 PM

ow, sorry for being blunt in this thread, didn't know you were disabled for the time being...

i would prob try the gas mix, unless you have the money to just let a shop handle it for you...

eg6sir · 04-19-2006, 02:00 PM

i dont really have the money since i only get 750 a month for SSI/disability, and thats barely enough to pay rent.. but i have family members who have been helping me get by until i can start working again.. so the money isnt a problem, i'll just take it to a smog/repair shop and get it done right this time..

Dustin_m · 04-19-2006, 05:38 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GSRCRXsi @ Apr 19 2006, 12:47 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
try running like 60% denatured alcohol in the gas tank. i cant remember the exact ratio of gas to alcohol, but it will make you burn CLEAN. might be something to look into...
[/b][/quote]
i waas gonna say the same thing

eg6sir · 04-19-2006, 05:49 PM

i put it in the shop already.. it shouldnt be too much.. its my mom's husband's friend.. .

eg6sir · 04-19-2006, 06:20 PM

well.. i just got a call from the shop.. they say its the 02 sensor.. i had one replaced about 2 yrs ago and i'm assuming they put a cheap one, so they are replacing that and i should be good.. its a smog repair shop doing this so they can test it out afterwards

eg6sir · 04-19-2006, 08:36 PM

i have another appointment tomorrow.. i'll get an oil change before..

04-19-2006, 12:54 PM	#2
formby learning in progress Join Date: Feb 2003 Age: 27 Posts: 5,742 iTrader: 4 / 100% Ride: 00' Montero sport, 99' lsv civic Rep Power: 93	fuck man....move.. just leave.. did you do anything else? __________________ SOMETIMES IN LIFE WE ALL NEED CHANGE! http://pandora.com/

04-19-2006, 12:59 PM	#3
JDMPlaya Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Columbus, OH Age: 23 Posts: 1,792 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2007 Camry / 2005 Acura MDX Rep Power: 30	im so glad i dont have to deal with that bs __________________ 2007 Camry XE 2005 Acura MDX Touring Edition

04-19-2006, 01:08 PM	#5
hosmer I made the millionth post Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: P R O V I D E N C E Age: 31 Posts: 2,676 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 03 350z, 08 135i, 02 Excursion, 91 CRX Si, 91 Galant VR4, 86 CRX Si Rep Power: 74	stick some steel wool behind your cat __________________ Hold it fellas. I'm afraid you're just too darn loud. Next please. BRING THE NEXT GROUP PLEASE.

04-19-2006, 01:13 PM	#6
reckedracing TTIWWOP Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: 845 Area, NY Age: 29 Posts: 15,381 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90 z6-t hatch, 94 Bagged S10, 91 Lifted Mazda Rep Power: 411	what kind of cat did you put in? and what is the HC? hydro carbons? do you have a chipped ecu? i would try getting a chip running lean for the test... what octane are you running? you could also look into running a half tank of toluene with the other half being 93 octane? who did you valve adjustment? do you have a FPR? __________________ I'll blow a hole in your face then go inside and sleep like a baby.

04-19-2006, 01:16 PM	#8
reckedracing TTIWWOP Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: 845 Area, NY Age: 29 Posts: 15,381 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90 z6-t hatch, 94 Bagged S10, 91 Lifted Mazda Rep Power: 411	<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>yea.. let me just put my arm through about 5 ft of exhaust piping[/b][/quote] you know the cat unbolts right???? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bash.gif[/img] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>i just went to a muffler shop and had them put on a cat..[/b][/quote] did you get a high preformance cat? or some universal piece of shit? i would get an OEM cat? or at least make sure its not a straight through cat... __________________ I'll blow a hole in your face then go inside and sleep like a baby.


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04-19-2006, 01:25 PM	#10
reckedracing TTIWWOP Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: 845 Area, NY Age: 29 Posts: 15,381 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90 z6-t hatch, 94 Bagged S10, 91 Lifted Mazda Rep Power: 411	so they welded your cat in place? sawzall and then band clamp it back together you wanna pass or not? why not swap out the P30 with something chipped then? i'm just brain storming for ideas here... __________________ I'll blow a hole in your face then go inside and sleep like a baby.

04-19-2006, 01:31 PM	#12
hosmer I made the millionth post Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: P R O V I D E N C E Age: 31 Posts: 2,676 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 03 350z, 08 135i, 02 Excursion, 91 CRX Si, 91 Galant VR4, 86 CRX Si Rep Power: 74	never weld a cat on... especially when you have to pass emissions. __________________ Hold it fellas. I'm afraid you're just too darn loud. Next please. BRING THE NEXT GROUP PLEASE.

04-19-2006, 01:32 PM	#14
reckedracing TTIWWOP Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: 845 Area, NY Age: 29 Posts: 15,381 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90 z6-t hatch, 94 Bagged S10, 91 Lifted Mazda Rep Power: 411	put the steel wool before the cat then? i would unbolt it and see if its a straight through i've never heard of a NEW cat giving you worse results... <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>.. i have to have a usdm p30 from the del sol vtec to pass[/b][/quote] you said you didn't wanna chip your stock one, so why not get one thats already been chipped? does it cost money for each smog inspection? __________________ I'll blow a hole in your face then go inside and sleep like a baby.

04-19-2006, 01:50 PM	#18
reckedracing TTIWWOP Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: 845 Area, NY Age: 29 Posts: 15,381 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90 z6-t hatch, 94 Bagged S10, 91 Lifted Mazda Rep Power: 411	<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>i cant really do much myself, i had surgery yesterday.. i can barely drive..[/b][/quote] ouch, what kind of surgery? i would look into the toluene or alcohol mix with gas... might be cheating a little but it'll give you a clear smog cert... __________________ I'll blow a hole in your face then go inside and sleep like a baby.

04-19-2006, 01:57 PM	#20
reckedracing TTIWWOP Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: 845 Area, NY Age: 29 Posts: 15,381 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90 z6-t hatch, 94 Bagged S10, 91 Lifted Mazda Rep Power: 411	ow, sorry for being blunt in this thread, didn't know you were disabled for the time being... i would prob try the gas mix, unless you have the money to just let a shop handle it for you... __________________ I'll blow a hole in your face then go inside and sleep like a baby.

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