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Old 09-13-2005, 12:48 PM   #26
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I quit using the patch. Its like 25$ at cvs.. its a constant feeling that you get after you just had a cigarette. Point is you need to get rid of the habit of smoking, doing certain activities that you are accustomed to smoke while doing, you need to break those habits, then deal with the physical addiction.
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using the patch and nic gum is worthless.

instead of smoking, you're now addicted to the path and/or the gum.... which is just as hard, if not harder, to get off of because its pure nicoteen
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The best advise I can give you:

1. DO keep a pack of ciggarettes around. Throw em in the junk drawer, but do have them. If you have them, thats one thing, but if you DONT have any, it will drive you insane.

2. Quit cold turkey. If you're going to quit, just fucking quit. Quit feeding the monster and it will die.

3. Sleep ALOT. sleep whenever you can, because when you are sleeping, you aren't craving and/or trying to murder people.. I wonder how many people get banned because you are just friggin perma-pissed for the next 3 days?....

4. Three Days. If you can make it three days, you can make it forever. Your physical addiction will be gone. Mental addiction, you may never get over. I quit 3 years ago and still go looking for my cigarettes when I'm seriously pissed or stressed. I never give in, though.


5. The best part! Remember that pack of cigarettes that you kept? When you need a cigarette, think.. Is that pack greater than me? Does it control me? Is my mind so fucking weak that tobacco OWNES me?? No.. You own the pack, and you choose not to smoke, because you are greater than a pack of smokes. Who is stronger?



You'll be just fine.. I kept my pack for about a year and a half before I tossed it. It was just taking up too much real-estate in my junk drawer.

Forgot to add, I got a gihugic bag of apple jolley ranchers and ate those all the damned time.. You aren't supposed to do that, because its supposed to cause a "replacement" addiction.. But it works well.
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using the patch and nic gum is worthless.

instead of smoking, you're now addicted to the path and/or the gum.... which is just as hard, if not harder, to get off of because its pure nicoteen

i thought you were smarter then this!!!!!!!


they have doses ....they draw you away from the need....just like heroin addicts....your body thinks it needs it, whe you do the patch or gum you ween yourself off.......but whatever, do what you want to do.....go ahead, go smoke.....dont come back till you do
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dude- its the same shit as going from 40-39-38-37....3-2-1 cigs a day... it doesn't work.
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Didn't you read that link? Gradual withdrawal doesn't work.

Eliminating the addiction by feedng it is COUNTERINTUITIVE.

Gums/patches are just a way to get pharmaceutical companies a piece of the nicotine pie.
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do you know exacly how much nicotine is in a cig...

..and its not the same...remember nicoteen does not kill you..... TAR and the smoke will
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So basically you're making yourself addicted to a gum or a patch instead of cigarettes and then justifying it by saying "nicotine won't kill me, at least I'm not breathing death anymore."

What a load.
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i tried the gum, and actually liked it... a lot
lol

its got a strange taste, kinda like pepper, but i got used to it...
pretty sad, i know

i quit for a while, a little over a year i think..
and i just got to thinking, why?
i like smoking, i don;t want to quit, i want to smoke, so i started again...

my friends dad passed away last year at the age of 45-ish... from lung cancer
and my friends father JUST died sunday, from lung cancer, actually he got lung cancer last november, they removed a lung did chemo/radiation, the cancer was gone, and then 5 days after he was done with his treatment he got pneumonia, and thats what finally got him...

so if you really wanna quit then really work at it...
what phyregod was saying is a really good way to think about it...
whats stronger, you or a pack of butts?
do you own the butts? or do the butts own you?

some people need aids, like the patch, or the gum...
my friends father from above quit using cough drops...
he always had cough drops with him and kept eating them and never smoked again...
my moms boss (also dead from lung cancer) quit using toothpicks...
from the time i can first remember him he always had a tooth pick in his mouth...
jolly ranchers are a good choice too...

eh, whatever you need B, you know we're here for you...
support could be a huge benefit for you...
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B, this is my wisdom. You need a girlfriend that will bitch at you every time you smoke because she doesn't wanna kiss that cigarette mouth of yours.
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Robyne quit cold-turkey and has been doing EXTREMELY well, she hasn't had a cigarette in over three months now, and sicne doing so, she can't stand the smell of them as it makes it sick to her stomach. If you have the will you can do it.

And also, B's mom bought him the gum or patch a few years ago for christmas, he returned it and bought some other stuff. Pretty funny stuff.
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Nicotine is an addiction at the core of human addictions. It's this way because it doesn't trigger a high - It doesn't trigger anything really. It's only addictive when it's missed. And literally, saying "Go cold turkey" is like asking someone to "Be abstinent". Same addictive chemical pathways are tapped for both.

unfortunately, starting to smoke is opening the rest of your life up to the fact that you can NEVER acheive buddhist nor hindu ideas of non-addicted Consciousness. Or, at least it will be that much tougher to do so.

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unfortunately, starting to smoke is opening the rest of your life up to the fact that you can NEVER acheive buddhist nor hindu ideas of non-addicted Consciousness. Or, at least it will be that much tougher to do so.
what the F*CK are you talking about man...?
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Originally posted by Callidus+Sep 13 2005, 02:14 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Callidus @ Sep 13 2005, 02:14 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>B, this is my wisdom. You need a girlfriend that will bitch at you every time you smoke because she doesn't wanna kiss that cigarette mouth of yours.
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had one a while back, had one in school, hell, i've NEVER dated a girl who smokes in my life. and i've been smoking for what, 8 years now? something like that... 17-25

not that i've dated a lot of chicks, but not a single one of them were smokers. one turned into one over time, but that didn't last long anyway, and i'm pretty sure she doesn't smoke any more.

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Robyne quit cold-turkey and has been doing EXTREMELY well, she hasn't had a cigarette in over three months now, and sicne doing so, she can't stand the smell of them as it makes it sick to her stomach. If you have the will you can do it.
been there done that. this isn't the first time i quit...
after about 4 or 5 days, they taste like shit... sometimes even 3 days is all it takes to loose the taste.
literrally, i'd want it so bad, take 1 drag and be like wtf.. gross... and toss it. butt, its that 1 puff....

but all it takes is one moment of no will power, and a couple puffs into it, and the bad taste is gone like that.

when i quit in college, i started smoking cigars as an alternative... those tijuana cigarallo's.. well, after about a week, i was inhaling the full cigar, so i went back to cigs. lol much safer for you. lol


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And also, B's mom bought him the gum or patch a few years ago for christmas, he returned it and bought some other stuff. Pretty funny stuff.
that was a couple years ago.. lol i remeber that. it was like 80 bucks for the system. i think i bought 2 cartons of smokes with the cash :P


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anyway, 3:35 pm now, and still smoke free.
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I really dont think you should call any programs to quit smoking worthless... Just because you were not able to have success with them does not mean others didnt as well... or better yet... You just said you returned them. Thats right, bash on something you've never tried... Smart.
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B, this is my wisdom. You need a girlfriend that will bitch at you every time you smoke because she doesn't wanna kiss that cigarette mouth of yours.
yea, that doesn't work I have had several girlfriends that would bitch at me for smoking, one of them even tried to hold out on sex untill I quit and she couldn't last 2 days with out sex.

B keep up the good work on being smoke free, your best bet is find something to keep you busy and keep your mind off smoking, and try to stay away from your friends that smoke for a couple of days
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day2. called out of work today.... sick as hell
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Good job, i want to quit , but i love smoking.
Me+Marlboro= teh sex.
My GF smokes too, easier to not quit i guess.
Actually, everyone in my family smokes... im only on year 6.
Once i quit cold turkey, and i hated the smell and taste too, then i smoked a newport and it tasted good, and well i love smoking, smoking is great.
Good job B, take a mental smoke break-> "This cigarette is better than that one i had after waiting 8 hours for the dickhead to get me my freaking carton of meatloaf off the shelf."
"I no longer want to stab everything that moves, i am just going to stare into the sunset and remember that smoking 1 pack per day is $1700 per year.
That $1700 could go towards the purchase of 566 gallons of gas.
566 gallons of gas in my car will allow me to drive 6,800 miles" :P
Seriously, if i quit today, i would put $5 per day into a jar, and next september i would buy myself a FHUCXING TRUBO KITT OMG WTL FOL1!1!ONEeleventwelvethirteen!111
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i used to smoke back in days when i was like 12. haha smoked until i was lik 15 and got tired of it. made me stink and tired from running. one day i just decide to quit and havent had any since then, except when im REALLY drunk. like wtf, why do people smoke when theyre drunk???? everyone i know that gets toasted has at least tried smoking even if theyve never smoked in their life. oh well.

just hit urself everytime u fien. bahaha. negative reinforcement.
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Good job, man.. keep it up!!

And go to sleep. Sleep is your friend!
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B...i was a new port smoker since the tender age of 15....i also smoke pot....any way..about 5 weeks ago i decided i ws not giving in to the sweet nicotine anymore...
i would suggest that you atleast try and slow down...maybe a pack a week....soon enough youll forget about it.....atleast i hope so..smoking is bad...and now you say"oh ill die anyway"......well cancer is a painful death and your whole family will suffer.....

buy the gum!!! its nasty but so are your dirty lungs.....
hrm... I'm UP to a pack every two days. Fuck it. We're all gonna die sometime, I don't have kids, so I doubt I'm going before my parents. Nope, nobody'll care. :P

Oh and newports suck ass. Too harsh. Marlboro menthol or Kools for me. So smoooth.
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and i'm going on 3 days... and its weird what i can taste... i had an oilve tonight, and i was like wtf? are these bad? i could actually taste it... heh
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Good for you, Keep it up. It will only get easier.
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