b16ahatch

Hey guys Im thinkingabout getting a wrx for a daily driver. It would be one of the older modles like 98-02 i think. Im just lookin for something thats all wheel drive, and has a little more power then your average car.Im not looking to build it either, maybe at the most an exhaust and some wheels. Basically my hatch sucks in bad weather. Plus i kinda once something with some ac and power sterring. Basically i just wanna get some input from you guys on what you think of them, have you ever driven one, did you like it? Are they fun cars to drive? how are they in snow? basically would it be a good investment? and how much is to much to pay for them? thanks for the input in advance

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94 cx hatchback
mods
exterior- si wheels rapped in falken azenis, carbon fiber hood, carbon fiber wing, projector head lights, si paint job and m3 mirrors

under the hood - b16 sir2 swap, clucth masters stage 3 clutch,act lightend flywheel, eagle rods, arias pistons, darton sleeves, rc 370cc injectors, msd plug wires,jackson racing fuel pump, apexi avcr and vafc, thrermal 3 inch turbo exhaust, 3 inch down pipe, auto tecknic fuel rail, b and m fuel pressure regulator,aem cam gears, turbonetics t3/t4e turbo, spearco fron mount intercooler, greedy type s b.o.v,

future mods- crane 2 step rev limiter igniton system, pnp head, crower valve train, and a apexi power fc.

TurboMirage

get a legacy awd or an impreza rs. those are much better.

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See what is done to the little Evo5.

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b16ahatch

I was thikning about an rs but im so use to turbo that i would feel naked without one.

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94 cx hatchback
mods
exterior- si wheels rapped in falken azenis, carbon fiber hood, carbon fiber wing, projector head lights, si paint job and m3 mirrors

under the hood - b16 sir2 swap, clucth masters stage 3 clutch,act lightend flywheel, eagle rods, arias pistons, darton sleeves, rc 370cc injectors, msd plug wires,jackson racing fuel pump, apexi avcr and vafc, thrermal 3 inch turbo exhaust, 3 inch down pipe, auto tecknic fuel rail, b and m fuel pressure regulator,aem cam gears, turbonetics t3/t4e turbo, spearco fron mount intercooler, greedy type s b.o.v,

future mods- crane 2 step rev limiter igniton system, pnp head, crower valve train, and a apexi power fc.

Loco Honkey

Why are they better? Define better. Better how?

B16- when you say your hatch sucks in bad weather, I assume you mean snow. Are you using snow tires on all four wheels?

TurboMirage

im pretty sure an impreza rs has about the same if not more hp than your honda turbo.

edit: my bad. youve got something going on under the hood. but why not just slap a turbo on the rs?

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Home of the RPW built 2000 Lancer CC Coupe.

See what is done to the little Evo5.

"If you don't like what I've done with my car, I will gladly refund all the money you put into it."

b16ahatch

lol definatley not, But it also has a 6 puc clutch now to so.

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94 cx hatchback
mods
exterior- si wheels rapped in falken azenis, carbon fiber hood, carbon fiber wing, projector head lights, si paint job and m3 mirrors

under the hood - b16 sir2 swap, clucth masters stage 3 clutch,act lightend flywheel, eagle rods, arias pistons, darton sleeves, rc 370cc injectors, msd plug wires,jackson racing fuel pump, apexi avcr and vafc, thrermal 3 inch turbo exhaust, 3 inch down pipe, auto tecknic fuel rail, b and m fuel pressure regulator,aem cam gears, turbonetics t3/t4e turbo, spearco fron mount intercooler, greedy type s b.o.v,

future mods- crane 2 step rev limiter igniton system, pnp head, crower valve train, and a apexi power fc.

TurboMirage

Why are they better? Define better. Better how?

B16- when you say your hatch sucks in bad weather, I assume you mean snow. Are you using snow tires on all four wheels? [/b][/quote]
2.5L, AWD. power options.

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Home of the RPW built 2000 Lancer CC Coupe.

See what is done to the little Evo5.

"If you don't like what I've done with my car, I will gladly refund all the money you put into it."

b16ahatch

350whp?

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94 cx hatchback
mods
exterior- si wheels rapped in falken azenis, carbon fiber hood, carbon fiber wing, projector head lights, si paint job and m3 mirrors

under the hood - b16 sir2 swap, clucth masters stage 3 clutch,act lightend flywheel, eagle rods, arias pistons, darton sleeves, rc 370cc injectors, msd plug wires,jackson racing fuel pump, apexi avcr and vafc, thrermal 3 inch turbo exhaust, 3 inch down pipe, auto tecknic fuel rail, b and m fuel pressure regulator,aem cam gears, turbonetics t3/t4e turbo, spearco fron mount intercooler, greedy type s b.o.v,

future mods- crane 2 step rev limiter igniton system, pnp head, crower valve train, and a apexi power fc.

b16ahatch

if i were to get a subaru it would have to be a wrx. I think they aare nice and classy plus they are a 4 dr which is what i like. im just looking for something with a little bit of get up and go and a little bit more luxury then a hatch

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94 cx hatchback
mods
exterior- si wheels rapped in falken azenis, carbon fiber hood, carbon fiber wing, projector head lights, si paint job and m3 mirrors

under the hood - b16 sir2 swap, clucth masters stage 3 clutch,act lightend flywheel, eagle rods, arias pistons, darton sleeves, rc 370cc injectors, msd plug wires,jackson racing fuel pump, apexi avcr and vafc, thrermal 3 inch turbo exhaust, 3 inch down pipe, auto tecknic fuel rail, b and m fuel pressure regulator,aem cam gears, turbonetics t3/t4e turbo, spearco fron mount intercooler, greedy type s b.o.v,

future mods- crane 2 step rev limiter igniton system, pnp head, crower valve train, and a apexi power fc.

TurboMirage

350whp? [/b][/quote]
i edited my post.

thats pretty nice B) ! my next car will definately be awd. i dont quite want a lancer evo unless i can import a wrecked 2-3 gsr, or pick up a colt turbo awd or something. i would probably end up with an RS of the previous generation to the wrx.

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Home of the RPW built 2000 Lancer CC Coupe.

See what is done to the little Evo5.

"If you don't like what I've done with my car, I will gladly refund all the money you put into it."

b16ahatch

well i found a silver 02 wrx for 15500 with 69000 miles. Do you guys think thats a good deal

EDIT: its bone stock

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94 cx hatchback
mods
exterior- si wheels rapped in falken azenis, carbon fiber hood, carbon fiber wing, projector head lights, si paint job and m3 mirrors

under the hood - b16 sir2 swap, clucth masters stage 3 clutch,act lightend flywheel, eagle rods, arias pistons, darton sleeves, rc 370cc injectors, msd plug wires,jackson racing fuel pump, apexi avcr and vafc, thrermal 3 inch turbo exhaust, 3 inch down pipe, auto tecknic fuel rail, b and m fuel pressure regulator,aem cam gears, turbonetics t3/t4e turbo, spearco fron mount intercooler, greedy type s b.o.v,

future mods- crane 2 step rev limiter igniton system, pnp head, crower valve train, and a apexi power fc.

b16ahatch

cause i just want a stock car. just a nice little daily driver with a littl bit of attitude. i already have one money pit.

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94 cx hatchback
mods
exterior- si wheels rapped in falken azenis, carbon fiber hood, carbon fiber wing, projector head lights, si paint job and m3 mirrors

under the hood - b16 sir2 swap, clucth masters stage 3 clutch,act lightend flywheel, eagle rods, arias pistons, darton sleeves, rc 370cc injectors, msd plug wires,jackson racing fuel pump, apexi avcr and vafc, thrermal 3 inch turbo exhaust, 3 inch down pipe, auto tecknic fuel rail, b and m fuel pressure regulator,aem cam gears, turbonetics t3/t4e turbo, spearco fron mount intercooler, greedy type s b.o.v,

future mods- crane 2 step rev limiter igniton system, pnp head, crower valve train, and a apexi power fc.

b16ahatch

Loco Honkey I have azenis the whole way around. Im sure the hatch would do better in snow tires but i would imagine that a wrx would do better just ebcause its all wheels drive. Plus the hatch has no power steering which can be a pain in the ass sometimes, and no ac which i dont mind to much but i would like to have it every now and then. Plus its loud as hell witht he thermal 3 inch on there, and it dosent have very much room in it.

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94 cx hatchback
mods
exterior- si wheels rapped in falken azenis, carbon fiber hood, carbon fiber wing, projector head lights, si paint job and m3 mirrors

under the hood - b16 sir2 swap, clucth masters stage 3 clutch,act lightend flywheel, eagle rods, arias pistons, darton sleeves, rc 370cc injectors, msd plug wires,jackson racing fuel pump, apexi avcr and vafc, thrermal 3 inch turbo exhaust, 3 inch down pipe, auto tecknic fuel rail, b and m fuel pressure regulator,aem cam gears, turbonetics t3/t4e turbo, spearco fron mount intercooler, greedy type s b.o.v,

future mods- crane 2 step rev limiter igniton system, pnp head, crower valve train, and a apexi power fc.

dohcvtec_accord

First off, WRX's were made from '01 on.

Second, 2.5 RS's are somewhat of a dog, unless you put some money into them (read: turbo it). There have a decent amount of power, but I think you'll begin to find them lacking. You can't just "slap a turbo on it", it'll take at least 3 grand, much like turboing a Honda. It's just easier to do, and easier to maintain than a turbo Honda.

Next, that price seems a little high for an '02 with that many miles. My '02 has 32k on it, but I paid a bit more for the many options that were installed.

My advice is to only look for a WRX (not a 2.5 RS), and if you want that '02, try to talk the price down a little. Any options, like carbon fiber interior trim, gauge pod, etc?

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b16ahatch

k wasent to sure about the yars so thanks for claryifying that for me.The wrx is pretty much stock. It dosent even have a cd player in it.

EDIT it has a cd changer

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94 cx hatchback
mods
exterior- si wheels rapped in falken azenis, carbon fiber hood, carbon fiber wing, projector head lights, si paint job and m3 mirrors

under the hood - b16 sir2 swap, clucth masters stage 3 clutch,act lightend flywheel, eagle rods, arias pistons, darton sleeves, rc 370cc injectors, msd plug wires,jackson racing fuel pump, apexi avcr and vafc, thrermal 3 inch turbo exhaust, 3 inch down pipe, auto tecknic fuel rail, b and m fuel pressure regulator,aem cam gears, turbonetics t3/t4e turbo, spearco fron mount intercooler, greedy type s b.o.v,

future mods- crane 2 step rev limiter igniton system, pnp head, crower valve train, and a apexi power fc.

b16ahatch

Is there really any diff between the 01 and 02 modles?

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94 cx hatchback
mods
exterior- si wheels rapped in falken azenis, carbon fiber hood, carbon fiber wing, projector head lights, si paint job and m3 mirrors

under the hood - b16 sir2 swap, clucth masters stage 3 clutch,act lightend flywheel, eagle rods, arias pistons, darton sleeves, rc 370cc injectors, msd plug wires,jackson racing fuel pump, apexi avcr and vafc, thrermal 3 inch turbo exhaust, 3 inch down pipe, auto tecknic fuel rail, b and m fuel pressure regulator,aem cam gears, turbonetics t3/t4e turbo, spearco fron mount intercooler, greedy type s b.o.v,

future mods- crane 2 step rev limiter igniton system, pnp head, crower valve train, and a apexi power fc.

TurboMirage

obviously turbo costs money. :P you need all the associated parts, and while your at it might as well get good ones.

thats just what i would do.

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Home of the RPW built 2000 Lancer CC Coupe.

See what is done to the little Evo5.

"If you don't like what I've done with my car, I will gladly refund all the money you put into it."

SolPWR

WRX was only sold in 2000-up. I would get the 2.5RS and turbo it! better looking in my opinion too. U can get them in 2or 4 door and it still would be cheaper. The WRX has a 2.0@227hp and the 2.5RS@165hp. still not bad at all. what about like a Legacy GT? they are cool looking and have the same engine as the RS. Those can be had for about 8-10k for a 98+


Why get a sube? What about Volvo? S40-60-70-80? SOme have AWD with turbo and I think one of the S40's have a 2.4T with like 250hp? This would be way better as a daily driver too.

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B16

i love my friends 02 wrx, great cars. if you can afford it, definately get one. the RS's are cool, i like their front ends a little better and they are actually lighter. you could pick up one of those and swap in the wrx or a jdm sti motor

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dohcvtec_accord

As far as I know, the '01, being a first-year edition, tends to have more bugs, faults, etc. You're better off sticking with an '02 or '03 (THOSE are the years that have no differences).

I'd get a Subie over a Volvo since Subie's don't cost shitloads to repair. A buddy of mine drove a Volvo, and it cost him over $500 to replace a taillight.

Also, a Subaru is much easier to mod (if you want to), and most dealerships are mod-friendly and will go out of their way to help you with aftermarket parts. Also, look at this: I spent $1200 after I got my WRX, and it netted me 65 horsepower. I don't see that happening with a Volvo.

Also, if you ever get the bug in you, a Subaru will be leaps and bounds above other turbo AWD cars at the drag strip or autocross track.

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Loco Honkey

Well, honestly... what do you expect? There is NO excuse for snow tires in the winter if you get snow on the ground. Even once in a while. Your tires are the last thing between you and the ditch, so why skimp? You don't skimp in the summer, so why do so in the winter?

Only marginally, and by that I mean it'll only do better in the accelleration. I gave summer tires a try in the snow on my AllTrac just to see. It had about as much traction as my old Civic did with snows. Turning and stopping were far worse. Common myth: AWD/ 4WD helps you stop and turn better in the snow. This is complete bullshit and is why we have so many massholes in the weeds here in VT during the winter. Ask yourself this: How does the engine's ability to power all four wheels help it stop and turn? Not at all! TIRES, man... tires... THEY are what stops and turns the car. Also, when buying snow tires, buy them one or two sizes narrower. This will put more weight on the contact patch and will allow the tire to cut through the slush and get down to the pavement. Stock size on the AllTrac is 215/50- 15. My snows are 195/60- 15. I chose a very agressive tire with studs. Now, with 250 HP, it's hard to get 'em to spin in 2nd gear. Stopping and braking are on par with what it's like on a dirt road. Tires tires tires tires tires tires tires. I can't say it enough.

All that other stuff about creature comforts 'n whatnot... I hear ya there. WRX is a very nice car. Go for it.

dohcvtec_accord

I'd have to marginally disagree. AWD definitely helps with turning in the snow. Why else can I go to a parking lot, throw my WRX sideways, and pull out of it when I want? Granted, tires help ALOT, but I'm running damn near the same tire I was running in the Accord, and I guarantee you I couldn't do what I'm doing now with my WRX. Of course, AWD doesn't make you invincible, like some people think. But if you know how to use it, it's far superior than FWD or RWD in the snow.

Obviously, AWD doesn't help at all with braking, as Loco stated.

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b16ahatch

hmmm i never thought about all that stuff loco honkey. Fact of the matter is i just want something different and the only car that i am in love with right now other then my hatch is the wrx. I just like the fact that i dont have to get my lazy ass out of my seat to let someone in the back, I think the only other 4 dr sport compact car thats can even compare to the wrx is the mazda 6 but i still choose wrx over those.

I dont drive the hatch in snow to much, right now im driving a 96 intrepid atuo which i hate with a passion

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94 cx hatchback
mods
exterior- si wheels rapped in falken azenis, carbon fiber hood, carbon fiber wing, projector head lights, si paint job and m3 mirrors

under the hood - b16 sir2 swap, clucth masters stage 3 clutch,act lightend flywheel, eagle rods, arias pistons, darton sleeves, rc 370cc injectors, msd plug wires,jackson racing fuel pump, apexi avcr and vafc, thrermal 3 inch turbo exhaust, 3 inch down pipe, auto tecknic fuel rail, b and m fuel pressure regulator,aem cam gears, turbonetics t3/t4e turbo, spearco fron mount intercooler, greedy type s b.o.v,

future mods- crane 2 step rev limiter igniton system, pnp head, crower valve train, and a apexi power fc.

Loco Honkey

Yeah, I don't see $1200 buying 65 HP in a Volvo either. They're slow, aincient bricks...

Oh, BTW... http://www.ipdusa.com/ProductsCat.aspx?Cat...=432&RootID= 629 Be sure to click on the upgrade specs.

Loco Honkey

You're talking about parking lot. I'm talking about accident avoidance on the road. Sorry bub, but AWD doesn't mean shit in a panic situation unless you're Petter Soleburg (sic).