Celerity

I was out today with a friend of mine. he got a flat on his bike, so I arranged a truck and waited the usual six fucking hours for it to show up. While I was there, hour 3 I decided to take a walk, and stumbled upon the PERFECT rat rod body candidate.

Now this is either going to receive the Celica 20R hybrid that I built, or the Cosworth....


.... Now follow me here.





Yeah yeah ... I know "Steve, how the FUCK are you going to stuff a Celica engine into that fucking 15,000 pound beast ?!"

But here is the catch: I've never seen one of these in person. It's TOTALLY awesome. During WWII we made as many of these things as possible - in the hundreds of thousands. After the war, we gave them to Israel who later gave back whatever was left.

Benefit realised : There are a TON of these things around.

they have an inline 6, overhead spark (and damn if they don't look DOHC, which is entirely possible), a 4 speed transmission, "4 wheel drive"(Front axles are driven) and the tracks are vulcanized rubber bands. The rear is a dual locker axle that connects to the front and rear track wheel.

But here is the best part: These things are unbelievable SMALL. You heard me, SMALL. like, TINY. The whole thing is less than 6 feet tall - with fully inflated tires. The body is really small, the floors are higher than my waist. And the body just sits ontop of the frame. Not even a transmission tunnel.

It's all 90 degree angles, flat steel and flat glass. So if I take the body off of the frame (Of course, it's no longer "half track") I can just rest it on another frame. Instant lowering. I don't even need to channel or section it !

Another con: It's light armored. Which is why it weighs a fuckton. But I'm going to talk to the shop and see if they'll part with it. Even if they don't, there are many yards FULL of these trucks spotted around the country. Abundant parts, no guilt for cutting it up, and a good resale on the tracks and stuff I won't use.

Eureeka !

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SlushboxTeggy

By me there is a 1940 Chevy sedan for sale. No motor but its on a Camaro underbody, Camaro tilt wheel, and Camaro discs on the corners. It would have been in my price range had I not gotten in the assault trouble.

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Celerity

Shame.. I used to think I wanted to build up a powerwagon Dodge. But when I saw how small this "thing" is, in real life, it looks so easy.

Now of course, I'm moving slowly on this project, slowly gathering stuff. (Before all you cock smokers go on and on about the two cars I have sitting in my garage). So I'm keeping an eye out, and doing more research on it.

But if I replace each panel with a thinner steel (It's 9mm thick steel on it) it'll lighten up dramatically. Then I only need a "sit on" type of frame, like an older Corvette or the like. Not to say it's easy to find a corvette frame, but it's easy to have one fabbed up to accept mustang 2 suspension, a solid rear axle and then sit the body on top of the fun. I can spare a transmission tunnel in the body (it's wide, but seriously from the floor to the top of the windshield is like 3.5 feet)

Makes an old Jeep Cherokee look roomy.

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Slammed89Integra

That thing looks ridiculous.

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Celerity

it IS ridiculous. But I've been looking for that perfect something for the project. The project theme is "In the 20's someone built a car that would live forever." It will have a mixture of technology over the past 90 years. Stuff like upgrades from the 60s, 90s, etc. But all based on the same "car"

I've been thinking of something other than your usual model A or what have you. plus, those bodies are really rare, some are a crime to butcher, and cost becomes a real issue. A fiberglass replica body is commonly about $8000.

The end result will be a rat rod that's somewhat wider and a bit altered from the original. The brand of car will only matter in the radiator (I'm trying to track down a diamond radiator) The rest of the body will be typical rat rod. But this is neat, because the body is already really wide and low, giving me a distinct advantage. The fact that it's 9mm steel also means that rust or rot-through isn't that big of a problem on the NE cars. Finally, take a step back and think of it as a "1920's built Lotus 7", which is what I'm trying to acheive.

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Jeef

I would say you will give up on it within 6 months. I do like the idea.

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Celerity

Har Har. Like I said, for the rat rod project I'm slowly collecting bits until it's seen fruition.

The Vega is what's got to go.

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SlushboxTeggy

Not going to lie, I saw a primered Vega being trailered the other day and thought of you.

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klyph

Awesome project. Fuck the naysayers, the thrill is in the chase. The challenge is to maintain motivation and enthusiasm.

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Celerity

Dude, you've been away for awhile.. but you should remember that you can NOT open yourself up for Celerity comments like this !

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efhondakid

S10 chassis maybe if the WB is close. I think it would be awesome to build a rat rod out of that thing. You have to use a grenade as a shift knob though.

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Celerity

Believe it or not, it's about the size of an S10 .

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klyph

If you're going to be replacing all the armor with sheet metal, wouldn't it be easier to just reproduce that body from scratch? A simple 90 degree sheet metal brake could do about 95% of that. All you need is reference dimensions. Hell, just dimension it to fit the frame that you're putting it on. It doesn't have to be exactly like the M3, just similarly proportioned and styled, or not styled at all really, uh, designed I guess.

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dacheat

rep for awesomeness.

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newb

Hey, I dunno if your mind is made for a frame, but have you thought of a 60's chev pickup frame. The bodies sit on the frame similar to your description of the half track. You could get a half ton short box frame and it would already have IFS and coil spring rear. Also, since its a chev its super easy to find parts for. And if a low ride height is wut your after you could get a $200 c-notch kit (beltech has a kit that fishplates the factory frame rails) for the back, throw some air bags on it, and damn near lay the frame on the ground.

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BodyDroppedNikes

i think that thing would be sic as fuck as a rat rod. if you can weld like a sumbitch then i would suggest building your own frame using 1/4" thick 2x3 box tubing. you would also need to maybe run a 4-link as well but im not sure if you do because of the tracks. also i would ditch those tires and add some wide whites. i got more ideas if you want them.

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klyph

Will you be adding steampunk elements, like copper sheetmetal for the body or wood wheels?

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